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Corvid-19: All the shutdowns are useless if your not gonna close the schools....

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ArtemisBarca

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First off I understand exactly why they re keeping the schools open... like 75% or Americans depend on schools for child care..

Like a show stopping amount...


Well are all the other closures worth doing AT ALL if your not gonna close the main societal Petri dish??

makes me think the closures are for show, or there are some real idiots deciding that the schools can stay open....


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Not sure where you are. We're closed here in Virginia.

VA Gov Northam closes all schools

I worry for the children in areas with no existing online presence. Our locality has had a laptop program for both middle and high school for years.
 
SomeCents said:
Not sure where you are. We're closed here in Virginia.

VA Gov Northam closes all schools

I worry for the children in areas with no existing online presence. Our locality has had a laptop program for both middle and high school for years.
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They closed the schools here this morning too lol..

I do think it was a fair point before that though lol..


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Our kids are home.

But it's not necessarily bad keeping the kids in school. They're doing it in Britain. Get the kids infected, they're odds of dying are practically zero, let them recover and they're now immune. It's called herd immunity. We're trying to slow the rate of infection in America, the opposite of what Britain is doing. When this is all over let's see which country does better.
 
swing_voter said:
Our kids are home.

But it's not necessarily bad keeping the kids in school. They're doing it in Britain. Get the kids infected, they're odds of dying are practically zero, let them recover and they're now immune. It's called herd immunity. We're trying to slow the rate of infection in America, the opposite of what Britain is doing. When this is all over let's see which country does better.
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The more I think about it I think that is the only viable option...assuming most healthy will not need hospitalization to survive without permanent injury, of course..

I think we are gonna have to let it blow through the healthy , as fast as possible to protect those at risk.


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swing_voter said:
Our kids are home.

But it's not necessarily bad keeping the kids in school. They're doing it in Britain. Get the kids infected, they're odds of dying are practically zero, let them recover and they're now immune. It's called herd immunity. We're trying to slow the rate of infection in America, the opposite of what Britain is doing. When this is all over let's see which country does better.
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George Washington and Valley Forge.
 
I'm certainly not prepared to use our kids, grand-kids, and great-grand kids as guinea pigs.
 
ArtemisBarca said:
First off I understand exactly why they re keeping the schools open... like 75% or Americans depend on schools for child care..

Like a show stopping amount...


Well are all the other closures worth doing AT ALL if your not gonna close the main societal Petri dish??

makes me think the closures are for show, or there are some real idiots deciding that the schools can stay open....


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Being as how the infirm are the ones mostly at risk of dying, it becomes a question of priorities. CV is not A massively fatal disease as far as other pandemics have been. We depend on the country’s engine of people working, buying, and paying taxes to survive. We can only do this for so long, or the population does it for us. People just begin to realize “You’ve done your best. It’s time to move on.”

And they will move on with or without you.
 
swing_voter said:
Our kids are home.

But it's not necessarily bad keeping the kids in school. They're doing it in Britain. Get the kids infected, they're odds of dying are practically zero, let them recover and they're now immune. It's called herd immunity. We're trying to slow the rate of infection in America, the opposite of what Britain is doing. When this is all over let's see which country does better.
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How many illnesses in human history have been removed or mitigated by herd immunity without vaccinations?
 
This is as stupid as those "measles parties" the antivaxxers tried.
 
Hamish Howl said:
How many illnesses in human history have been removed or mitigated by herd immunity without vaccinations?
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How soon do you think an effective vaccine will take to become available?
 
TurtleDude said:
How soon do you think an effective vaccine will take to become available?
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12-18 months.

But that doesn't change the fact that we have never gained herd immunity to a disease without vaccination.

Wishful thinking won't change that.
 
Hamish Howl said:
12-18 months.

But that doesn't change the fact that we have never gained herd immunity to a disease without vaccination.

Wishful thinking won't change that.
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so high risk individuals are going to need to remain quarantined for a year or more?
 
TurtleDude said:
so high risk individuals are going to need to remain quarantined for a year or more?
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At a minimum, social distancing will be the new normal.

If that's unacceptable, then say you'd prefer a higher death rate. Don't hide in some fantasy that the universe will change the rules for you.
 
Hamish Howl said:
At a minimum, social distancing will be the new normal.

If that's unacceptable, then say you'd prefer a higher death rate. Don't hide in some fantasy that the universe will change the rules for you.
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so all restaurants, movie theaters, etc will be shut down for over a year. think that through
 
swing_voter said:
Our kids are home.

But it's not necessarily bad keeping the kids in school. They're doing it in Britain. Get the kids infected, they're odds of dying are practically zero, let them recover and they're now immune. It's called herd immunity. We're trying to slow the rate of infection in America, the opposite of what Britain is doing. When this is all over let's see which country does better.
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And those infected school children come home to Grandma, not to bright eh?
 
TurtleDude said:
so all restaurants, movie theaters, etc will be shut down for over a year. think that through
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Well the Oscars will kind of suck if the winner is a tiktok new dance video.
 
TurtleDude said:
so all restaurants, movie theaters, etc will be shut down for over a year. think that through
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Yeah. Do you think I find the idea attractive?

But whether we do or not, we will not reach herd immunity by infection alone, ie, without vaccines.

After that, it just comes down to what you value.
 
yankintx said:
And those infected school children come home to Grandma, not to bright eh?
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I am quite sure Boris Johnson stays up at night, worried about grannies.

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Logician Man said:
I'm certainly not prepared to use our kids, grand-kids, and great-grand kids as guinea pigs.
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The sad reality is they are going to spread it to each other eventually either way. I have been watching the kids in my neighborhood and they could care less about the social distancing. I am not talking 5 or 6 year old. I am talking teenagers. I go to the grocery store and they are huddled in a gang and could care less. I was that way when I was there age. I am still that way to some extent. I have to be careful because my mom stays with me and she is 80. But she has been going to work off and on. To be honest I don't think she lives in fear either. My younger sister and brother are the ones that are scared. They are on me about her working. They know better than to try and tell her how to live. She is still sharp and I see no reason to fight with her about it.
 
ArtemisBarca said:
First off I understand exactly why they re keeping the schools open... like 75% or Americans depend on schools for child care..

Like a show stopping amount...


Well are all the other closures worth doing AT ALL if your not gonna close the main societal Petri dish??

makes me think the closures are for show, or there are some real idiots deciding that the schools can stay open....


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The flu still is killing far, far more people than covid-19. All schools must be bulldozed to the ground to close them permanently.
 
It is now being established as accepted social policy that no one has any rights whatsoever.
 
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PIPEWRENCH said:
The sad reality is they are going to spread it to each other eventually either way. I have been watching the kids in my neighborhood and they could care less about the social distancing. I am not talking 5 or 6 year old. I am talking teenagers. I go to the grocery store and they are huddled in a gang and could care less. I was that way when I was there age. I am still that way to some extent. I have to be careful because my mom stays with me and she is 80. But she has been going to work off and on. To be honest I don't think she lives in fear either. My younger sister and brother are the ones that are scared. They are on me about her working. They know better than to try and tell her how to live. She is still sharp and I see no reason to fight with her about it.
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About an hour ago I saw two kids on bicycles dash by racing each other, each with a fishing pole. In the panic idiot claims of the covid-19 terrified, I probably had an ethical duty quick shoot both of them to stop them continuing on their mass murderous path certain to ultimately kill thousands upon thousands of old folks self locked up in their homes.
 
Hamish Howl said:
At a minimum, social distancing will be the new normal.

If that's unacceptable, then say you'd prefer a higher death rate. Don't hide in some fantasy that the universe will change the rules for you.
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Sorry, but a lot of us are not going to live in fear. We already have high death rates thanks to people texting and driving, falling down steps, obesity, alcohol, and drugs just to name a few.
 
joko104 said:
About an hour ago I saw two kids on bicycles dash by racing each other, each with a fishing pole. In the panic idiot claims of the covid-19 terrified, I probably had an ethical duty quick shoot both of them to stop them continuing on their mass murderous path certain to ultimately kill thousands upon thousands of old folks self locked up in their homes.
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Life is too short to live in fear. This virus will run its course and people are going to die. That is the sad reality. I say we blame Bush, I mean Trump.
 
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