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    Re: Workers rights

    Quote Originally Posted by Nap View Post
    The reason there is policy like that is to prevent incentivizing theft. If it was acceptable to take home "leftover food" you would see an increase in "leftovers" as people would feel entitled to their own meals to take home. You are not entitled to the property of others.
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    Re: Workers rights

    Quote Originally Posted by DebateChallenge View Post
    Anybody who gets sick from eating the restaurant's food can sue the restaurant.
    Sorry, I wasn't very clear. The restaurant is in control of everything they serve to customers, which is why they're legally responsible for ensuring the food is safe. The moment a staff member gathers the leftovers and takes them home, the restaurant is no long in control of their safety but remains legally responsible.

    Quote Originally Posted by DebateChallenge View Post
    That's why staff should be watched over, to make sure they're doing their job properly and not cheating the restaurant which is what businesses should do anyway with their workers.
    You're playing two things off each other now. You want businesses legally proscribed from implementing restrictions on "rights" but you also expect them to closely monitor their staff.

    Again, this isn't a workers rights issue. A restaurant is perfectly entitled to choose to help out struggling staff members and that might include letting them have unused food (in a safe and managed manner). They could even be celebrated for doing so. That doesn't make it the legal right of a worker to simply take anything they determine is no longer required by the business.

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    Re: Workers rights

    Quote Originally Posted by DebateChallenge View Post
    I'll give you an example. Lets say there's this single mom who works at a restaurant to scrape by and support her children. She takes leftover food from the restaurant home every night, food that would be thrown out anyway, to feed her children so they won't starve. The manager finds out and fires her just like that because its against "company policy." That is so low, so despicable, companies should not be allowed to have policies like that and whoever makes such policies for a company should go to jail.
    When I asked that question, I never imagined the answer to "what is this thread about?" would have been "leftovers".

    This is just an absurd issue to raise in terms of workers' rights - indeed, as many have pointed out, it really has nothing to do with workers' rights at all. If you want to talk about workers' rights in the restaurant industry, why not look at something meaningful like the numerous state laws allowing employers to pay tipped workers less than minimum wage?

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    Re: Workers rights

    Quote Originally Posted by DebateChallenge View Post
    I'll give you an example. Lets say there's this single mom who works at a restaurant to scrape by and support her children. She takes leftover food from the restaurant home every night, food that would be thrown out anyway, to feed her children so they won't starve. The manager finds out and fires her just like that because its against "company policy." That is so low, so despicable, companies should not be allowed to have policies like that and whoever makes such policies for a company should go to jail.
    She needs to move to Nevada. I hear people in the Nevada culinary union have a pretty sweet deal going on. Then she wouldn't need to steal from her employer.
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    Re: Workers rights

    There are "ServSafe" laws requiring food that has sat out too long, or has passed its expiration date to be thrown away. There are no exceptions to allow donating it to employees or anyone else. The manager would be breaking the law if he allowed the worker to take food home.

    The problem is the vast majority of the time the "expired" food is still perfectly safe to eat, but the law doesn't allow for any common sense provisions. That's our over-regulated, over-litigious society where if you do happen to get sick, you can sue the restaurant or even get it shut down.
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    Re: Workers rights

    Quote Originally Posted by vegas giants View Post
    Bring back unions.....and strikes
    Umm... you know unions and strikes are still a thing.

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    Re: Workers rights

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Umm... you know unions and strikes are still a thing.
    A tiny tiny thing compared to what they were

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    Re: Workers rights

    Quote Originally Posted by DebateChallenge View Post
    All too often big companies have stupid and unfair policies that hurt the workers. We need to pass laws to prohibit such stuff.
    Most of the time those policies are put into place to; 1) protect the workers and 2) to protect the company from stupid workers. People do stupid things and then try and blame the company they were working for the stupid thing they did, resulting in lawsuits. As your example so pointed out.
    Unions were established during a time when workers in this country had very little rights, this allowed the workers to speak as a whole and demand change in the company. In today's world, workers are protected by many government policies almost rendering the unions a thing of the past. I have worked for both union shops and non-union shops and the only difference between the two, one I had to pay union dues and the other I didn't. The wages were the same and the benefits with the non-union shop was better than the union shop, both in medical and in vacation time. The IBEW approached us to join their union, we as a collective turned them down do to the higher cost in medical insurance through their union.
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