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A Democratic Republic or Athoritarianism?

Do you support Trumpism

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Wry Catcher

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Today it is clear we are living in a new normal. The current Senators, under the leadership of McConnell has demonstrated that one person can have a major impact on our form of government. There is no doubt that Authoritarianism is now, with no thanks to 51 Senators, a new form of governance, i.e. Trumpism.

IMO, Trumpism is akin to fascism, and a reader with an open mind and who has watched the behavior of Trump and McConnell will see much similarity to these 14 points:

14 signs of fascism - Google Search
 
I think on the list provided Trump misses three points: Obsession with security, religion and military worship. These he just plays lip service to.

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However the Republican Party platform fits the entire list to a T. I think they're a little blindsided by this incompetent populist grabbing control of the party's easily led base, but they probably want to hold on till a more competent nationalist/authoritarian from their own ranks comes up and can actually lead as well, can actually hide some of his craziness and gain broader appeal. Then the world is in trouble.
 
Today it is clear we are living in a new normal. The current Senators, under the leadership of McConnell has demonstrated that one person can have a major impact on our form of government. There is no doubt that Authoritarianism is now, with no thanks to 51 Senators, a new form of governance, i.e. Trumpism.
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I support a Democratic Republic, not Trumpism or Authoritarianism, which I consider one and the same.

I was disgusted by the display of the Trump cultists in the sham "trial". I honestly thought in the beginning that, with all the evidence already presented, that enough of the repugs would vote to at least reveal the hidden documents and allow testimony from key first-hand witnesses to his corruption and conduct a fair trial.

They all exposed their blind loyalty to a corrupt president and violated their oaths, their country and the American people. I have voted in the past on both sides of the aisle, but witnessing what I saw in the United States government by the repugs disgusted me. They care nothing about the country, the constitution and the rule of law. They have no spines, character or conscience.

Now they continue to look the other way while Trump removes loyal patriots who served their country well. They have sold their souls to serve only one cult leader, I can only hope that they all pay in the end for their disservice to the United States of America. I refuse to vote for any repug, they are not patriotic, they are not honest and they are anti-American. I give Romney some credit, but honestly, it seemed like too little too late. I do wish him well, Trump will try to retaliate that he didn't kneel down for him, and Trump's thugs may just take him out one day....nothing would surprise me with the POS in office and his cultists.

Lev Parnas, Michael Cohen, Omarosa Manigault Newman, George Conway, Anthony Scaramucci, Rick Wilson and Others: Trump is a Cult Leader - Freedom of Mind Resource Center
 
Old 'N Chill said:
I support a Democratic Republic, not Trumpism or Authoritarianism, which I consider one and the same.

I was disgusted by the display of the Trump cultists in the sham "trial". I honestly thought in the beginning that, with all the evidence already presented, that enough of the repugs would vote to at least reveal the hidden documents and allow testimony from key first-hand witnesses to his corruption and conduct a fair trial.

They all exposed their blind loyalty to a corrupt president and violated their oaths, their country and the American people. I have voted in the past on both sides of the aisle, but witnessing what I saw in the United States government by the repugs disgusted me. They care nothing about the country, the constitution and the rule of law. They have no spines, character or conscience.

Now they continue to look the other way while Trump removes loyal patriots who served their country well. They have sold their souls to serve only one cult leader, I can only hope that they all pay in the end for their disservice to the United States of America. I refuse to vote for any repug, they are not patriotic, they are not honest and they are anti-American. I give Romney some credit, but honestly, it seemed like too little too late. I do wish him well, Trump will try to retaliate that he didn't kneel down for him, and Trump's thugs may just take him out one day....nothing would surprise me with the POS in office and his cultists.

Lev Parnas, Michael Cohen, Omarosa Manigault Newman, George Conway, Anthony Scaramucci, Rick Wilson and Others: Trump is a Cult Leader - Freedom of Mind Resource Center
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democrats are the biggest authoritarianist there are.
the only cult is the one going on with democrats at this point in time.

they want to control your healthcare
control where you live
control how much money you can have
control what you eat
control what you can drive
control how you can protect yourself.

you leftist and your silly claims amuse me.
 
ludin said:
democrats are the biggest authoritarianist there are.
the only cult is the one going on with democrats at this point in time.

they want to control your healthcare
control where you live
control how much money you can have
control what you eat
control what you can drive
control how you can protect yourself.
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The above makes little or no sense.
 
Risky Thicket said:
The above makes little or no sense.
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only if you ignore it.
but i count on leftist ignoring facts. it is the only argument they have.
it makes perfect sense. you not understanding it is not my issue.
 
Another Trump term will put America into an authoritarian state, and win the Dems win in 2024 they will not take it back to the Republic, but instead lock down a one-party majoritarian state.
 
ludin said:
only if you ignore it.
but i count on leftist ignoring facts. it is the only argument they have.
it makes perfect sense. you not understanding it is not my issue.
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OK then explain your issue. Let's start with number one: "They want to control your healthcare." Compared to what?

Tell us about Trumpublican Healthcare, how it will be much better than the ACA and how quality and accessibility will measurably increase while costs decrease.
 
Risky Thicket said:
OK then explain your issue. Let's start with number one: "They want to control your healthcare." Compared to what?

Tell us about Trumpublican Healthcare, how it will be much better than the ACA and how quality and accessibility will measurably increase while costs decrease.
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I don't think the government should be involved in healthcare. it is none of their business how i treat myself.
it is none of their business what kind of insurance i have or what doctor i can go see or what procedure i need.
their only responsibility should be to ensure that dangerous drugs are not making it onto the market.
 
There is no way I would support Trumpism. I have felt that we have, for some time, been sliding down the road of authoritarian fascism. Trump is accelerating this even faster. I have always said that Trump is the status quo without brakes or filter. We need to get back to a restricted, limited, Democratic Republic. Not sure if we will, seems the cat is out of the bag, as it were. But I certainly don't want to be sprinting to Corporate-Capitalistic Authoritative Fascism. AKA Trumpism.
 
Risky Thicket said:
The above makes little or no sense.
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It's called Deflection. It's one of the 3-D's of the Trumpeteer.

Deflection
Deception
Denial

All their arguments boil down to one or a combination of these three things.
 
ludin said:
democrats are the biggest authoritarianist there are.
the only cult is the one going on with democrats at this point in time.

they want to control your healthcare
control where you live
control how much money you can have
control what you eat
control what you can drive
control how you can protect yourself.

you leftist and your silly claims amuse me.
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LOL. If you are trying to post a rebuttal, I suggest you put wheels on your spin, it won't turn.

Try again, this time go point by point what legislation HAS been passed by a majority of Democrats to control health care in America; to overrule the 2nd A.; where someone's must live; what we eat and what we are required to drive.

Your fishing in a bath tub, with a cork and no bait.
 
Wry Catcher said:
LOL. If you are trying to post a rebuttal, I suggest you put wheels on your spin, it won't turn.

Try again, this time go point by point what legislation HAS been passed by a majority of Democrats to control health care in America; to overrule the 2nd A.; where someone's must live; what we eat and what we are required to drive.

Your fishing in a bath tub, with a cork and no bait.
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Not at all those are all proposals that leftist have done over the years.
the only reason they have not been implemented is that we have had a republican congress to stop them.

denial fallacies are no longer valid.
 
ludin said:
I don't think the government should be involved in healthcare. it is none of their business how i treat myself.
it is none of their business what kind of insurance i have or what doctor i can go see or what procedure i need.
their only responsibility should be to ensure that dangerous drugs are not making it onto the market.
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What do you mean you "don't think the government should be involved in healthcare"? Are you saying free market healthcare with no government involvement? Encounter a major/severe illness and if your insurance can't or won't cover most costs it's on you and you are fine with that?

Most Americans will either acquire a disability before they die or they will be directly affected as family members acquire a disability. Your position is the government shouldn't be involved? It's a private issue and none of the government's business.

Are you opposed to medical research and preventative healthcare?
 
Risky Thicket said:
What do you mean you "don't think the government should be involved in healthcare"? Are you saying free market healthcare with no government involvement? Encounter a major/severe illness and if your insurance can't or won't cover most costs it's on you and you are fine with that?

Most Americans will either acquire a disability before they die or they will be directly affected as family members acquire a disability. Your position is the government shouldn't be involved? It's a private issue and none of the government's business.

Are you opposed to medical research and preventative healthcare?
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i already stated why are you simply not reading on purpose or just trying the typical obtuse dishonesty?
 
ludin said:
i already stated why are you simply not reading on purpose or just trying the typical obtuse dishonesty?
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No, I’m not. Your reasoning is vague.

You don’t want the government involved in your healthcare. I doubt anyone here understands exactly what you mean and you don’t seem to be able to explain it.

Don’t get pissy with me because you are inarticulate.
 
ludin said:
Not at all those are all proposals that leftist have done over the years.
the only reason they have not been implemented is that we have had a republican congress to stop them.

denial fallacies are no longer valid.
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I'm flabbergasted. Have you no clear understanding of the past history? Have you not considered each point in the OP's 14 which can be applied to trump's tweets, rallies, speeches and policies? Good grief, open your eyes. The left you suggest has disappeared, it's last hurrah was in Chicago during the Democratic National Convention and died during the house fire in LA when the SLA was sent to hell.

The left today is all about the people, the right today is all about themselves.
 
Ikari said:
It's called Deflection. It's one of the 3-D's of the Trumpeteer.

Deflection
Deception
Denial

All their arguments boil down to one or a combination of these three things.
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This is what we call projection.
 
Wry Catcher said:
I'm flabbergasted. Have you no clear understanding of the past history? Have you not considered each point in the OP's 14 which can be applied to trump's tweets, rallies, speeches and policies? Good grief, open your eyes. The left you suggest has disappeared, it's last hurrah was in Chicago during the Democratic National Convention and died during the house fire in LA when the SLA was sent to hell.

The left today is all about the people, the right today is all about themselves.
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I am flabbergasted that you are doing the typical denial fallacies that all leftist do?

who support government take over of healthcare? Democrats.
Who supports redistribution policies that have failed over and over again? democrats.
who support banning of constitution right to protect yourself? democrats. gun ban laws have to constantly be struck down by courts.
bloomberg himself attempted several unconstitutional laws to tell people what they could and couldn't eat or drink.
obama put huge standards of motor vehicles to make MPG requirements that were not possible. THis has cause a surge in car prices.

no matter how much you want to ignore facts they don't go away.
 
Risky Thicket said:
No, I’m not. Your reasoning is vague.

You don’t want the government involved in your healthcare. I doubt anyone here understands exactly what you mean and you don’t seem to be able to explain it.

Don’t get pissy with me because you are inarticulate.
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It's a propaganda line, there's no real meaning behind it and nothing further can be explained about it. Nor do they really have any real plan on how to address issues such as the ballooning costs of healthcare in this country. It's deflection, one of the 3-D's of the Trumpeteer.

Deflection
Deception
Denial

All their arguments boil down to one or a combination of these three things. They don't like this pointed out, but when you realize this, you can see how almost all their arguments will reduce to this.
 
Ikari said:
It's a propaganda line, there's no real meaning behind it and nothing further can be explained about it. Nor do they really have any real plan on how to address issues such as the ballooning costs of healthcare in this country. It's deflection, one of the 3-D's of the Trumpeteer.

Deflection
Deception
Denial

All their arguments boil down to one or a combination of these three things. They don't like this pointed out, but when you realize this, you can see how almost all their arguments will reduce to this.
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Exactly. Trump's propaganda is basic and simple and it works well with the Trump base. Pithy and vague statements/promises aired - rarely in print media - with few if any statistics or data are repeated and repeated like a drumbeat until the Trump bot internalizes the vague message and repeats it without question.

Ask Trump bots to explain the vague messages they willingly repeat and they frequently cannot. Push them to explain and the Trump bots will cut you off and blame it on your inability to understand.
 
ludin said:
I am flabbergasted that you are doing the typical denial fallacies that all leftist do?

who support government take over of healthcare? Democrats.
Who supports redistribution policies that have failed over and over again? democrats.
who support banning of constitution right to protect yourself? democrats. gun ban laws have to constantly be struck down by courts.
bloomberg himself attempted several unconstitutional laws to tell people what they could and couldn't eat or drink.
obama put huge standards of motor vehicles to make MPG requirements that were not possible. THis has cause a surge in car prices.

no matter how much you want to ignore facts they don't go away.
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It seems you want to live in the late 19th Century. Time's change, and those of us who have read and comprehend history understand liberty and freedom come with a price, one which is not taken away when put into perspective lives lost by disease; some born by unhealthy water, spoiled food and foul air. No single man or woman can protect us form these threats to human health, and only a fool will claim oppression when health centers (operated by government) lined up men, women and children for free doses of vaccine to prevent and then end the polio crisis. Many costly and lethal factors which can be mitigated if we followed Bloomberg's effort to reduce sugary food and beverages consumed in vast quantities to children and even adults. The cost of obesity, heart and vascular disease is enormous, and can be mitigated by diet and exercise.

Today a new infection has impacted the world, do you want a government, any government, to ignore it?

We also have been infected by the NRA and its followers who believe gun controls are a threat to the liberty and freedom they so cherish (at least for themselves). The innocent victims being murdered every day by guns in America exceeds every western democracy in the world. 70% of our citizens believe gun control - background checks, for example - support gun control.
 
I don't support most '-isms'.

Although Trumpism is a particularly ill-defined '-ism". It mostly seems to mean, "stuff Trump does that I don't like, because I don't like most stuff Trump does."

Personally, I support the stuff Trump does that I like and oppose the stuff I don't like. It runs about 50-50. Maybe 60-40 (and no, I won't tell you which side is the 60 and which is the 40) ;)
 
Do you support Trumpism
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What's Trumpism? Lower taxes on achievers and producers? Less government regulations strangling the economy? A greater focus on national security? Less people in need of government assistance? Less dependency upon government? Declining rate of unemployment?
 
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The OP is just a waste of words, the same pointless boring TDS ranting.
 
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