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A Democratic Republic or Athoritarianism?

Do you support Trumpism


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Which do you support:

Today it is clear we are living in a new normal. The current Senators, under the leadership of McConnell has demonstrated that one person can have a major impact on our form of government. There is no doubt that Authoritarianism is now, with no thanks to 51 Senators, a new form of governance, i.e. Trumpism.

IMO, Trumpism is akin to fascism, and a reader with an open mind and who has watched the behavior of Trump and McConnell will see much similarity to these 14 points:

14 signs of fascism - Google Search

I won't consider this madness a new normal... it is an abnormal atrocity... that "WE" as American people must stand up for Democracy and once and for all make this Confederate Republican Madness of Plutocratic promotions of Authoritarianism, by plutocrats, bigots and race and ethnicity bias types, who think they can re-create the vile era of white nationalism.

America won't go backwards... neither will the monetary class and race bias advance in this 21st Century in America.

This nation has become stagnated by the vile- Many town and cities across this nation are seeing no growth and no development, we are watching the debt and deficit explode and attacks on every humane programs that previous congressional bodies have instituted.

Evil is a very real thing, and we watch it everyday, and it will not become normal... it is simply a vile period in the transistor in this nation away from white nationalism, to Americanism for ALL of Multicultural and Multi-ethnic American people.

Everyone knows the damages caused by the long past of white nationalism, where it segregated poor whites from well to do white, segregated non whites from both poor whites and from well to do whites in a continual cycle of promoting disparity in every way imaginable.

The Nations and The Nations values are far stronger and deeper than a Despot and a Despotic Republican Senate. The world has watched the lawlessness and daily vile of this mad factions for the past 11 yrs. As we watched them attack Obama incessantly for 8 yrs, and we see the vile of the attack upon America in their extreme aggression's to try and not only dismantle all that was achieved as we rose out of the mess made by Bush... We see the evil now attacking the Institution of our Government.

These Rabid Confederate Agenda Republicans and their White Nationalist Right Wing... who pursue by every act of vile, a want to promote the authoritarianism of Plutocratic Confederacy Ideology.

America won't go backwards... neither will the monetary class and race bias divisiveness advance in this 21st Century in America.

America has been damaged for decades by the acts of "bigots" and "discriminators"... until it exported its industry, and damaged the systems of the nation and thrust America into economic default with $23 Trillion in Debt, and a continual Budget Deficit, that will grow and does grow by the same percentage of profits the wealthy claim.

It's money that weakens the coffers of the Federal Government, while Increasing Nation Debt and explodes the National Budget.
We are at Debt to GDP of 105% and it can be attributed to the vile acts of White Nationalist Divisiveness, in their acts to try and hold on to the past vile of that ideology.
Nothing Grows, Nothing Develops and Nothing is Maintained when such vile is in our executive office of Governance.

America is at the turn point to finally stand up as Americans and Stamp Our White Nationalist Plutocratic Madness of White Male Dominance.. It's damaged America for 100's of years and will not be the model of the 21st Century.

America Democracy and its Republic Form of Representative Governance must stand and represent the voice of the people - "DEMOCRACY FOR ALL" This is the Future for America... and the sooner we face that truth, the sooner the advances become common and the lives of All American become improved in every aspect of what is our National Society.

We've seen autocratic plutocrats abuse women in a network of plutocrats, in Epstein, and when they feared he'd talk, they made quick disposal of him. We've seen a white male senate give a pass of treasonous and corrupt acts to a mad man who is a vile megalomaniac wanna be dictator, who wants what Putin has, and wants to control America like Kim does N. Korea... while the wealthy hoard everything and weaken the lifestyles of the average American.
 
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Which do you support:

Today it is clear we are living in a new normal. The current Senators, under the leadership of McConnell has demonstrated that one person can have a major impact on our form of government. There is no doubt that Authoritarianism is now, with no thanks to 51 Senators, a new form of governance, i.e. Trumpism.

IMO, Trumpism is akin to fascism, and a reader with an open mind and who has watched the behavior of Trump and McConnell will see much similarity to these 14 points:

14 signs of fascism - Google Search

Sometimes you don't get the government you want. That isn't authoritarianism.
 
I think on the list provided Trump misses three points: Obsession with security, religion and military worship. These he just plays lip service to.

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However the Republican Party platform fits the entire list to a T. I think they're a little blindsided by this incompetent populist grabbing control of the party's easily led base, but they probably want to hold on till a more competent nationalist/authoritarian from their own ranks comes up and can actually lead as well, can actually hide some of his craziness and gain broader appeal. Then the world is in trouble.

Well, no, it doesn't. You have to create a false image in your head to shoehorn Republicanism into that list.

But yeah, LOL at the Republicans controlling mass media. :lamo

And Trump signed one of the most sweeping criminal punishment reforms in decades that freed thousands from prison.

Trump is geared towards deregulation and reduction of government oversight of the market... which is not the way fascism works. :lamo

We are not a theocracy...

Cronyism is more a Democrat thing.

The Elections weren't fraudulent.

The Republicans aren't sexist.

So... what you have is teh Republicans are very pro-American. ZOMG!! NAZIS!! :roll: :lamo
 
I don't think the government should be involved in healthcare. it is none of their business how i treat myself.
it is none of their business what kind of insurance i have or what doctor i can go see or what procedure i need.
their only responsibility should be to ensure that dangerous drugs are not making it onto the market.

You know that's a fair enough position to take, but it doesn't have to be all or nothing.

I for one think my taxes could be better spent on things like public healthcare rather than endless wars and Wall St bailouts. The govt doesn't have to choose my doctor or plan, but a responsible govt recognizes the need for a healthy population and foots at least some of the bill.
 
Trump is geared towards deregulation and reduction of government oversight of the market... which is not the way fascism works. :lamo

They're handing over the free market to oligarchs while they tighten control over the selection and voting process by denying the people a vote and rigging elections. It may not be Mussolini's fascism but it's Putin's modern authoritarianism or China's one-party state.

One has to be singularly brainwashed to think that market 'deregulation' automatically equals 'freedom'.
 
Sometimes you don't get the government you want. That isn't authoritarianism.

How can you honestly post that Trumpism is not Authoritarianism? Post some evidence that Trump and his Administration and the GOP support democracy, explain why they want to close polling places, put road blocks to communities of likely Democratic voters to exercise their right to vote, and make it impossible to obtain a "proper" ID since they have never passed a bill defining what ID is good enough. Oh, and let's not forget Colleges and University student ID's are not good enough in some states.

How about putting up road blocks to women seeking a legal abortion (R v. W), limiting the number of health centers which do legal abortions or closing them making a huge burden for poor women.

Let's not forget Trumpism wants to prevent LGBTQ from serving our nation in our armed forces, and speaking about that why did trump take funds already directed for our military to build walls on our Southern Border?
 
They're handing over the free market to oligarchs while they tighten control over the selection and voting process by denying the people a vote and rigging elections. It may not be Mussolini's fascism but it's Putin's modern authoritarianism or China's one-party state.

One has to be singularly brainwashed to think that market 'deregulation' automatically equals 'freedom'.

LOL!! You guys really need a dose of reality. The closest thing to Oligarchs in this country are all progressives. Google, Twitter, Facebook, Amazon, Apple... all down with the progressive "social justice" and other prog nonsense. There is no "authoritarianism" under Trump. How many things can you name that the Trump presidency has forced you to do? Start a list.
 
How can you honestly post that Trumpism is not Authoritarianism?

Because it's not. The Trump Presidency doesn't force you to do anything.

If you think he does, I suggest you start a list of things that the Trump presidency is forcing you to do.
 
How can you honestly post that Trumpism is not Authoritarianism? Post some evidence that Trump and his Administration and the GOP support democracy, explain why they want to close polling places, put road blocks to communities of likely Democratic voters to exercise their right to vote, and make it impossible to obtain a "proper" ID since they have never passed a bill defining what ID is good enough. Oh, and let's not forget Colleges and University student ID's are not good enough in some states.

States control polling places and voter ID laws, the only one for the US is that people who register and don't provide ID by mail have to show ID when they vote (state drive's license or state ID or a Social Security card); so this is abjectly bull****.


How about putting up road blocks to women seeking a legal abortion (R v. W), limiting the number of health centers which do legal abortions or closing them making a huge burden for poor women.

The Feds aren't proving federal funds for abortion clinics. They don't have the power to close them. States have some power there but any attempts will probably end in a protracted legal battle the states will likely lose. So this is also bull****.


Let's not forget Trumpism wants to prevent LGBTQ from serving our nation in our armed forces, and speaking about that why did trump take funds already directed for our military to build walls on our Southern Border?

The only claim that's true, how authoritarian is it though?
 
but i count on leftist ignoring facts. it is the only argument they have.
"A fact to a liberal is like kryptonite is to Superman." - Larry Elder
 
Which do you support:

Today it is clear we are living in a new normal. The current Senators, under the leadership of McConnell has demonstrated that one person can have a major impact on our form of government. There is no doubt that Authoritarianism is now, with no thanks to 51 Senators, a new form of governance, i.e. Trumpism.

IMO, Trumpism is akin to fascism, and a reader with an open mind and who has watched the behavior of Trump and McConnell will see much similarity to these 14 points:

14 signs of fascism - Google Search

There's no such thing as trumpism

Donald Trump is just the president

NOT the kind of authoritarian president who will make and pass laws on Christmas eve and tell us he is going to "fundamentally transform" our country

No, he's (Trump) is just a president

A president who is exposing and weakening many authoritarians. Authoritarians like Nancy "wehavetopassittofindoutwhatsinit" pelosi and our great serial liar adam schiff.. then we have “Twenty-five days of consecutive session on a bill that was partisan in the sense that Republicans were angry with it, but we still had the courage of our convictions to have a debate on the floor.” - Charles E. Schumer..

..and the rest of the REAL fascist wannabes who forced obama"care" down Americas throat at 1 in the morning...

I find it revealing that your 14 points of fascism describe democrats/progressives extremely well.. . yes, they DO have religion entwined in our government. Liberal beliefs & faiths, but faiths !

You have to deny this of course. Deny away, only fools can't see what democrats are about. They're right up front about it LOL

They are about hate. They are about terror. They are about silencing any opposition to them.

Yes, they really are . . .

The left, democrats, liberals, progressives, whatever you want to call them - they are the new kind of terrorists !

Operating on deception & intimidation and even violence ! Can't miss the violence occurring all over by leftists... Nice movie they made... about hunting & killing 'deplorables'

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Ironically, the “hero” of this thriller/horror movie is one of the alluded to “deplorables” according to the premise apparently from Universal and shared on Wikipedia:
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'The Hunt' headed to theaters again
 
LOL!! You guys really need a dose of reality. The closest thing to Oligarchs in this country are all progressives. Google, Twitter, Facebook, Amazon, Apple... all down with the progressive "social justice" and other prog nonsense. There is no "authoritarianism" under Trump. How many things can you name that the Trump presidency has forced you to do? Start a list.

Raising the bar a little high. The authoritarianism is creeping and the GOP participates. Voter suppression is one, Trump's wish to silence journalists, his attempts to co-opt the DOJ into his personal weapon against political rivals. The beginnings are there. They're nowhere near the stage of 'forcing' everyday citizens to 'do stuff' but even one step down that road is one too many.
 
States control polling places and voter ID laws, the only one for the US is that people who register and don't provide ID by mail have to show ID when they vote (state drive's license or state ID or a Social Security card); so this is abjectly bull****.




The Feds aren't proving federal funds for abortion clinics. They don't have the power to close them. States have some power there but any attempts will probably end in a protracted legal battle the states will likely lose. So this is also bull****.




The only claim that's true, how authoritarian is it though?

Nice spin, next time use round wheels and not triangles (your spin won't hunt). Trumpism is not solely occurring in the White House, the far right wing has gotten the okay to do whatever they need to do to keep power. It exists in county counsels and city halls in local, state and federal offices in all 50 states; and, in the Senate and House of Rep., school boards and board rooms.
 
We are a republic that elects our representatives. But the most important part is the Constitution with our Bill of Rights that protect the minority and the individual from mob rule. The fact is that a democracy is majority rule which does not protect the individual or the minorities freedom and rights. There is no question that the only protection the minority and the individual have from the majority voting away their freedom is the Constitution. Even that is not full proof because as we are seeing today the majority can amend the Constitution making it possible to take away the freedom of the few or the individual. Even the Supreme Court Justices are appointed by the majority. If we have the same party running congress as well as the president they can appoint people who will do their bidding instead of protecting the rights and freedom of the individual.
 
Nice spin, next time use round wheels and not triangles (your spin won't hunt). Trumpism is not solely occurring in the White House, the far right wing has gotten the okay to do whatever they need to do to keep power. It exists in county counsels and city halls in local, state and federal offices in all 50 states; and, in the Senate and House of Rep., school boards and board rooms.

Jumped at any shadows lately?
 
Another Trump term will put America into an authoritarian state, and win the Dems win in 2024 they will not take it back to the Republic, but instead lock down a one-party majoritarian state.

Probably. If we bother having elections after that.
 
Seems your post, once again, lacks substance, thought and is not thought provoking, added to that an ad hominem is the lowest form in posting.

That's today's Republican party.
 
Seems your post, once again, lacks substance, thought and is not thought provoking, added to that an ad hominem is the lowest form in posting.

The problem is you are stating things that don't exist or grossly exaggerating those that do. You are jumping at shadows.
 
The problem is you are stating things that don't exist or grossly exaggerating those that do. You are jumping at shadows.

I think, politely, you are describing yourself, OpportunityCost. Time will tell.
 
I think, politely, you are describing yourself, OpportunityCost. Time will tell.

Look, hes calling things that states decide Trumpism, then lamely declaring that Trumps influence is causing states to do those things.
 
Raising the bar a little high. The authoritarianism is creeping and the GOP participates. Voter suppression is one, Trump's wish to silence journalists, his attempts to co-opt the DOJ into his personal weapon against political rivals. The beginnings are there. They're nowhere near the stage of 'forcing' everyday citizens to 'do stuff' but even one step down that road is one too many.

No. again, you all need a civics class. The President is the chief law enforcement officer of the United States, and has full control over the DOJ. Every president before Trump has exerted similar authority over it, laying out suggestions and policies regarding sentencing guidelines. You don't like it because "Trump", but you really need to reign in the eternal rage of the now. :roll:
 
No. again, you all need a civics class. The President is the chief law enforcement officer of the United States, and has full control over the DOJ. Every president before Trump has exerted similar authority over it, laying out suggestions and policies regarding sentencing guidelines. You don't like it because "Trump", but you really need to reign in the eternal rage of the now. :roll:

People are not arguing whether he has the power, jmotivator, but whether he should use that power, and the majoritarian feeling is that Trump has really crossed over the line. The ever-growing TDS as displayed by Trump supporters demonstrate their awareness their guy is in deep doo doo.

And when it comes to American decency and law and values, no American will accept a lecture from a Trump supporter.
 
People are not arguing whether he has the power, jmotivator, but whether he should use that power, and the majoritarian feeling is that Trump has really crossed over the line. The ever-growing TDS as displayed by Trump supporters demonstrate their awareness their guy is in deep doo doo.

And when it comes to American decency and law and values, no American will accept a lecture from a Trump supporter.

What "majoritarian" position? Are we deciding legal penalties by polls now? :roll:
 
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