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A Democratic Republic or Athoritarianism?

Do you support Trumpism


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I see far too much of it in adults who should have been progressed beyond that level.

Like those still whining about the 2016 presidential race?
 
Like those still whining about the 2016 presidential race?

It really pisses you off that your boy Trump proved himself illegitimate as our president. Just live with it.
 
It really pisses you off that your boy Trump proved himself illegitimate as our president. Just live with it.

He was duly elected. Why do you say he's illegitimate?
 
It really pisses you off that your boy Trump proved himself illegitimate as our president. Just live with it.

One of the biggest reasons the democrats lose presidential elections is that they are emotional marshmellows when they are defeated. You are a prime example.
 
One of the biggest reasons the democrats lose presidential elections is that they are emotional marshmellows when they are defeated. You are a prime example.

And I like you too.
 
One of the biggest reasons the democrats lose presidential elections is that they are emotional marshmellows when they are defeated. You are a prime example.

They also want to dominate their fellow man, which a lot of people are not cool with.
 
Which do you support:

Today it is clear we are living in a new normal. The current Senators, under the leadership of McConnell has demonstrated that one person can have a major impact on our form of government. There is no doubt that Authoritarianism is now, with no thanks to 51 Senators, a new form of governance, i.e. Trumpism.

IMO, Trumpism is akin to fascism, and a reader with an open mind and who has watched the behavior of Trump and McConnell will see much similarity to these 14 points:

14 signs of fascism - Google Search

Did you think this up all by yourself? Must have given you quite a headache. It gave me a belly laugh ache for sure! The new normal? Under Obama, Harry Reid single handedly changed the Senate rules with the Nuclear Option. Did you forget that? So, it was Obama who is the fascist. Actually, he's more of a communist, like his dad was. The government is running as it has always run. Majority rules. Fortunately, we have three branches of Government. The Democrats haven't learned that yet as they flip off the Judicial and the Executive all the time. They try to lead from the minority. :lamo
 
Did you think this up all by yourself? Must have given you quite a headache. It gave me a belly laugh ache for sure! The new normal? Under Obama, Harry Reid single handedly changed the Senate rules with the Nuclear Option. Did you forget that? So, it was Obama who is the fascist. Actually, he's more of a communist, like his dad was. The government is running as it has always run. Majority rules. Fortunately, we have three branches of Government. The Democrats haven't learned that yet as they flip off the Judicial and the Executive all the time. They try to lead from the minority. :lamo

Clearly you haven't thought this ^^^ all by yourself. Not that you have plagiarized it, since there was nothing substantive or thoughtful in an ad hominem.

Had you read the 14-points with an open mind - not that I believe you did either - you would have not attacked my comments, but written a comprehensive expository response.
 
only if you ignore it.
but i count on leftist ignoring facts. it is the only argument they have.
it makes perfect sense. you not understanding it is not my issue.

How do Dems control where I live?
 
And I like you too.

It's not about like or dislike. My point is that when democrats lose a presidential election, they are emotionally incapable of accepting defeat when it comes and moving on. When they should be thinking ahead to the next election, they are still obsessed with the previous one. They behaved similarly in the aftermath of the 2000 election.
 
They also want to dominate their fellow man, which a lot of people are not cool with.

Exactly. Evidence of that came from Democrat Senator Chuck Schumer yesterday threatening two US Supreme Court Justices over an abortion bill the court may rule on. Today's left has no respect for the Separation of Powers in the US Constitution.
 
It's not about like or dislike. My point is that when democrats lose a presidential election, they are emotionally incapable of accepting defeat when it comes and moving on. When they should be thinking ahead to the next election, they are still obsessed with the previous one. They behaved similarly in the aftermath of the 2000 election.

1) I accepted that Trump won in the Electoral College after Clinton won the vote of the people.

2) People have been trying to get rid of the EC for a very very long time - myself since I first found about in the sixth grade in 1961.

Why are you so fearful of people discussing this matter?
 
1) I accepted that Trump won in the Electoral College after Clinton won the vote of the people.

2) People have been trying to get rid of the EC for a very very long time - myself since I first found about in the sixth grade in 1961.

Why are you so fearful of people discussing this matter?

There's nothing to fear. There is literally zero chance of an amendment eliminating the electoral college.
 
1) I accepted that Trump won in the Electoral College after Clinton won the vote of the people.

Considering that the electoral college is the law of the land and has been since our founding, you must accept that Trump won the election, period. There is no popular vote election to win for the white house. It's worth nothing more then bragging points.

2) People have been trying to get rid of the EC for a very very long time

Yes, a tiny minority of malcontents.

- myself since I first found about in the sixth grade in 1961.

Pardon me if I doubt that you had any concerns in the sixth grade one way or the other on the electoral college.

Why are you so fearful of people discussing this matter?

I am not fearful. I am just taking advantage of my first amendment rights and giving not only my point of view but that of the vast majority of educated Americans. And you will continue having a hard time convincing any objective individual that your angst against the electoral college is over the democrat presidential candidate losing in the 200 and 2016 races.
 
There's nothing to fear. There is literally zero chance of an amendment eliminating the electoral college.

Though he will not admit it, he understands that. He only uses it as a crutch to avoid accepting that Hillary Von Pantsuit lost the 2016 election.
 
Considering that the electoral college is the law of the land and has been since our founding, you must accept that Trump won the election, period. There is no popular vote election to win for the white house. It's worth nothing more then bragging points.

Does you wall calendar begin with the two numbers 1 and 7?
 
Though he will not admit it, he understands that. He only uses it as a crutch to avoid accepting that Hillary Von Pantsuit lost the 2016 election.

I have been against the Electoral College for well over 55 years. I recall the wise words of Thomas Jefferson who said

“I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and Constitutions. But laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors.”

They fit the EC perfectly. The USA of the 1700's no longer exists. We are no longer a Eastern seaboard nation of 4 million farmers - many functionally illiterate and poorly educated. We indeed have become more developed, more enlightened and manners and opinions about small numbers of empowered elites have changed radically.

The EC is part of that power structure and must be replaced. As it gives todays GOP a distinct advantage, it will not be changed until the Republican Party is bit in the ass by it the way Democrats have been ... most recently in 2000 and again in the last presidential election in 2016.

Only then will todays Republicans advocate for its abolishment.
 
I have been against the Electoral College for well over 55 years. I recall the wise words of Thomas Jefferson who said



They fit the EC perfectly. The USA of the 1700's no longer exists. We are no longer a Eastern seaboard nation of 4 million farmers - many functionally illiterate and poorly educated. We indeed have become more developed, more enlightened and manners and opinions about small numbers of empowered elites have changed radically.

The EC is part of that power structure and must be replaced. As it gives todays GOP a distinct advantage, it will not be changed until the Republican Party is bit in the ass by it the way Democrats have been ... most recently in 2000 and again in the last presidential election in 2016.

Only then will todays Republicans advocate for its abolishment.

It will take 37 states to approve such a change to the treaty. I don't think that's going to happen.
 
The legislative branch has been slowly robbed of its power by the executive and judicial branches, and executive power especially is out of control. We need to return to the separation of powers intended by the Constitution. I remember Dennis Kucinich trying to impeach Bush 43 and Obama for exceeding the power of their office, and now we have Trump.
 
I have been against the Electoral College for well over 55 years.

I do not believe you. No sixth grader would be that obsessed with the electoral college. It's corny that you even make the claim.


I recall the wise words of Thomas Jefferson who said

Thomas Jefferson was a very wise man and I suspect that he was a staunch supporter of the electoral college and it's existence indefinately.

They fit the EC perfectly. The USA of the 1700's no longer exists. We are no longer a Eastern seaboard nation of 4 million farmers - many functionally illiterate and poorly educated. We indeed have become more developed, more enlightened and manners and opinions about small numbers of empowered elites have changed radically.

The USA of the 1700s absolutely still exists. As someone who claims to have taught US Government in college for decades, you of all people should understand that and you probably do. The electoral college is as important today as it was then, if not more important.

The EC is part of that power structure and must be replaced. As it gives todays GOP a distinct advantage, it will not be changed until the Republican Party is bit in the ass by it the way Democrats have been ... most recently in 2000 and again in the last presidential election in 2016.

Only then will todays Republicans advocate for its abolishment.

Utter nonsense. What you are arguing against is the concept of the "United States of America" and what it stands for. Your preference is for us to lose the concept of 50 United States and just become one big state with a bloated central government, controlled by a handful of densely populated cities. And your suggestion that republican are given a distinct advantage is just your way of whining that at this point and time, conservative ideology dominant. If there was a built in advantage for republicans, Barack Obama would never had been president. Bill Clinton never would have been president, nor would Jimmy Carter have been. Your problem is that you do not give a **** about what the farmers in Kansas or Nebraska think, or the coal miners in Virginia,etc. To you they are just the "smelly walmart shoppers" or in your words: "deplorables". You are out for the elite only.
 
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