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    Re: Why America needs a hate speech law

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post
    I agree that a hate speach law would be absolutely wrong.

    However, I see a very strong need for a law that says you can't lie about science. That is you cannot present something you know is false as science.

    That would sort out the global warming debate.
    Would not surprise me one bit if that's what your ilk ultimately wanted to do. Nothing like following in the steps of the authoritarians of the past and oppressing scientists and intellectuals, right?
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    Re: Why America needs a hate speech law

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    Would not surprise me one bit if that's what your ilk ultimately wanted to do. Nothing like following in the steps of the authoritarians of the past and oppressing scientists and intellectuals, right?
    Only fraudsters would be caught by this law.

    People who misuse the mean of science.

    Those who claimed that smoking was safe.

    Those who claimed that fat causes heart attacks, it's not it's sugar.

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    Re: Why America needs a hate speech law

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post
    Only fraudsters would be caught by this law.

    People who misuse the mean of science.

    Those who claimed that smoking was safe.

    Those who claimed that fat causes heart attacks, it's not it's sugar.
    Back up. You said this:

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    However, I see a very strong need for a law that says you can't lie about science. That is you cannot present something you know is false as science.
    You are a believer in denialism. You made it very clear that you want to legally censor scientific speech in favor of AGW.

    Your side has made a lot of telling admissions, but this is a new one. Your rare honesty is appreciated, even though it was unintentional.
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    Re: Why America needs a hate speech law

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Your logic is akin to the person who doesn't want to restrict campfires in the middle of a serious drought.
    No, it's not. You seem to think that hate speech would be so enticing and irresistible that to hear it would cause a rational individual to instantly forego all logic and morality. I think it would be the exact opposite. More like throwing water on that campfire.
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    The more it will hate those who speak it

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    Re: Why America needs a hate speech law

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Back up. You said this:



    You are a believer in denialism. You made it very clear that you want to legally censor scientific speech in favor of AGW.

    Your side has made a lot of telling admissions, but this is a new one. Your rare honesty is appreciated, even though it was unintentional.

    Only when it can be shown beyond reasonable doubt that the person doing the speach is lying.

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    Re: Why America needs a hate speech law

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    No, it's not. You seem to think that hate speech would be so enticing and irresistible that to hear it would cause a rational individual to instantly forego all logic and morality. I think it would be the exact opposite. More like throwing water on that campfire.
    Runaway hate speech is a key component to setting up genocide. It's the fourth stage of genocide, and there are examples throughout history of this happening.

    People who want to keep hate speech unchecked are like those who say that no matter how dangerous fire conditions are, campfires must be allowed, only forest fires should be extinguished. Turns out that forest fires are much more difficult to put out!
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    Re: Why America needs a hate speech law

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post

    Only when it can be shown beyond reasonable doubt that the person doing the speach is lying.
    You have made it crystal clear which side you feel is lying. Your cover is blown.
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    Re: Why America needs a hate speech law

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Runaway hate speech is a key component to setting up genocide. It's the fourth stage of genocide, and there are examples throughout history of this happening.

    People who want to keep hate speech unchecked are like those who say that no matter how dangerous fire conditions are, campfires must be allowed, only forest fires should be extinguished. Turns out that forest fires are much more difficult to put out!
    Sorry, no. Your campfire analogy is ridiculous. I think you'd find the hate speech component of a genocide coincided with suppression of other forms of speech, particularly speech opposed to the repression of the victim population. Do you seriously see that happening here?
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    The more it will hate those who speak it

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    Re: Why America needs a hate speech law

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    You have made it crystal clear which side you feel is lying. Your cover is blown.
    Which side I think is lying certainly.

    But if the result was that your side was able to continue to tell the world that there is a serrious problem and mine not able to refute it so be it. Truth is more important than my ego.

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    Re: Why America needs a hate speech law

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Runaway hate speech is a key component to setting up genocide. It's the fourth stage of genocide, and there are examples throughout history of this happening.

    People who want to keep hate speech unchecked are like those who say that no matter how dangerous fire conditions are, campfires must be allowed, only forest fires should be extinguished. Turns out that forest fires are much more difficult to put out!
    Only when the other side is not allowed to speak.

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