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    Re: Liberals destroy more businesses

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    There is no surplus. It's against the California Constitution. There are allocations.

    Here is a link to the summary of the California 2019-20 budget. Point to the page that describes a $21.5 billion surplus.

    http://www.ebudget.ca.gov/2019-20/pd...troduction.pdf
    If you can't find it for yourself -- too bad. If this was your first time denying reality, I might feel sorry for you but your pattern of denial and personal attacks says you will refuse to accept reality.
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    Re: Liberals destroy more businesses

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    If it is Warren versus Trump, I'll count you as a vote for President Trump. Or, more accurately, a vote of Jeff Bezos.
    You can count me up any way you want, sane, rational, and intelligent folks know Trump Stupids really don't know how to count, so it won't matter how you count me, you still won't get it right.

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    Re: Liberals destroy more businesses

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    On it's way. BTW, the title of the report includes this special word - "poised"

    Did you learn what that word means in school?

    A terminal cancer patient rarely dies on the day predicted, do they?

    Does that mean they aren't suffering from terminal cancer?

    Care to touch on anything that was presented in that report?

    Oh, and then there is this:

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...5_billion.html
    Your links are providing a view into your media diet, which seems to be mostly fast outrage food. If you want to convince someone who doesn't already agree with you about something, you should consider providing supporting evidence from a source the person you are trying to convince will respect. If you don't have and can't find any such sources, consider the possibility that are stuck in a misinformed media bubble.

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    Re: Liberals destroy more businesses

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    A neighbor of our explained to me the government is essentially shutting down the USA manufacturing company he has worked at for over 30 years, with him short of making retirement. Being a smaller community there is no replacement job here (or likely anywhere) meaning among other things losing the house he has been paying for to be paid off by retirement. Everyone with the company is losing their jobs.

    For half a century it has technically been illegal to modify cars and trucks driven on the road due to EPA and DOT regulations. However, none of this applied too off-road vehicles, racing vehicles, boats and non-vehicle motors. Thus, parts for such modifications were legal to make and sell - the only illegality is using them on street vehicles.

    California outlawed making and selling parts that MIGHT be illegally used, even if the also could be legally used. The California market was huge for the company, financially breaking the company. In addition, California is using the Federal EPA to impose California law nationwide. The owner (we also know) said when coming to his company the federal inspector - a climate change fanatic - told him that he is "murdering the planet."

    What it means is to buy such parts people will have to order them online from China since the EPA can not control Chinese manufacturing. The only effect of the regulations is to 100% eliminate USA manufacturing and selling of the products to 100% shift production and sales to China. It's ok to "murder the planet" - as long as this makes jobs and money for other countries, not Americans and the USA.

    Thus the real effect is NOT to do anything to affect climate change whatsoever. All it does is shift 100% of relevant jobs and income from the USA to China - just like essentially every climate change policy goal does.

    Climate-change radicals essentially are foreign agents and lobbyists of China's and other foreign child labor sweatshop factories.
    So let me get this straight. You work for a company that makes parts used to circumvent environmental laws. Until recently, you operated under the loophole that these parts can be, used legally to get around the fact that they usually aren't used legally. In short, your company has been facilitating the destruction of our environment, damaging all of us and all of our grandchildren. California has recently closed that loophole, and you're pissed because you can no longer make a living hurting the rest of us. Furthermore, California has yet to close a further loophole that allows foreign companies to sell products to asshole residents of the United States that harm the rest of us. I hope that this further loop hole closes soon, and I have no sympathy for you. Your bosses should have seen the writing on the wall and switched to producing parts that modify cars to be more environmentally friendly, not less, long ago.

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    Re: Liberals destroy more businesses

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    The cal budget doesn't agree with your 20% claim.


    The reasons costs are so high in cal is because it's what the market will bear. The free market is your ideal - right? Now you know how the other half lives...


    California is the 5th largest economy in the world; we won't miss you at all, nor are we missing the throngs that have fled. For every ten of that goes, twenty more show up to to try and strike gold. What you should count on however is that this spiral of costs is not sustainable and will collapse.
    Junk bonds not junk laws? Let's convince our elected representatives to invest in our infrastructure instead of merely creating more laws.

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    Re: Liberals destroy more businesses

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Junk bonds not junk laws? Let's convince our elected representatives to invest in our infrastructure instead of merely creating more laws.
    Not sure what that means or has to do with anything. As for convincing law makers, choosing other law makers is the best recipe for getting them to do anything about anything.

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    Re: Liberals destroy more businesses

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    You have to admit though that its seems a little hinky that the company can't produce the goods here in the US. .. but they can be produce in China and then sold to the US.
    Excellent point! TBH on kind of in the middle regarding the whole climate change debate, nonetheless if we government virtually unlimited power to dictate energy that would indeed give them a tremendous amount of ability to dictate so much of our lives and clearly diminish personal freedom.

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