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UAW strikers are liars, the way all union strikers are liars

That's OK. Let them strike. GM will be gone from this country within another decade. Most of their sales are overseas. And that's where most of their manufacturing is going. The union is committing suicide.
 
jet57 said:
No what you get on this topic is fact that shows how ridiculous your views and comments really are.
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You haven't shown ridiculousness of anything. In fact you haven't really contributed anything here. Just ad hominems.

I suggested a couple straightforward policy fixes, one of which would be extremely favorable to unions. Your response? "(chuckle)." You're not even participating.
 
Drawdown said:
Refusal to give in to other side seems so given in any strike that I don't see how that could be considered an unfair labor practice
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The union just says that the employer bargained in bad faith, and engaged in regressive bargaining or surface bargaining. The law defines those as unfair labor practices, so all the union needs to do is allege it. They don't need to demonstrate a solid case, or any case, in order to allege the ULP before going on strike. They know it's going to be withdrawn before the NLRB or state equivalent will actually hear the ULP case.
 
Neomalthusian said:
Virtually every bit of information about the UAW strike mentions a demand for wage increases. The strike is immediately following negotiations that stalled because of monetary terms. This makes their strike an economic strike. Everything about what they're demanding, and the timing of their strike, says this is an economic strike.



But the union pretends it's not an economic strike, i.e. they allege that they are not striking for higher wages, benefits, or other things being asked for in collective bargaining. They simply allege that an unfair labor practice was committed and that that's why they're on strike. This is a bald-faced lie, but nothing is done about it, because our country's labor laws are not enforced when it comes to union behavior.

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A law needs to be passed that says that, when a union conducts a ULP strike, collective bargaining negotiations must pause until a labor board determines whether or not the employer in fact committed an unfair labor practice and provides direction/recommendation to the parties for resuming negotiations. Otherwise, unions will continue to be permitted to violate labor laws and regulations pertaining to strikes, by simply lying their asses off about the basis of their strike.
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I'm all for people being able to make the least amount of money an employer is able to get away with paying. I say do away with all unions, make every state a right to work state and bring the federal minimum wage down to $2.13 an hour.

That should certainly spark the economy into overdrive. The effing nerve of people wanting a living wage. How dare they!
 
bongsaway said:
I'm all for people being able to make the least amount of money an employer is able to get away with paying. I say do away with all unions, make every state a right to work state and bring the federal minimum wage down to $2.13 an hour.

That should certainly spark the economy into overdrive. The effing nerve of people wanting a living wage. How dare they!
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Sarcasm noted, but did you bother to understand the central point of the thread and how it has to do with creating a direct incentive for unions to file bogus unfair labor practice allegations?

Right To Work has zero to do with this, the minimum wage has zero to do with this, and "living wage" has zero to do with this.
 
Neomalthusian said:
Sarcasm noted, but did you bother to understand the central point of the thread and how it has to do with creating a direct incentive for unions to file bogus unfair labor practice allegations?

Right To Work has zero to do with this, the minimum wage has zero to do with this, and "living wage" has zero to do with this.
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Tell me if you can, how much money does the top ten people at GM pull out of the company each year? Then we can talk about bogus labor practices.
 
bongsaway said:
Tell me if you can, how much money does the top ten people at GM pull out of the company each year? Then we can talk about bogus labor practices.
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You're getting farther and farther off topic with each next thought. Try to become aware of what this thread is about. And notice that more than once I've suggested a couple of policy fixes for the situation, at least one of which would be very favorable to unions (that economic strikers couldn't be permanently replaced).
 
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