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What kind of worker benefits from increased government involvement in private businesses?

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Communist party platforms support more government regulation and control of businesses and the establishment of labor unions to force businesses to meet workers' demands. What kind of worker benefits from such oppression of business and free enterprise economies?

1. A lazy worker who likes the idea of employers being forced to pay higher salaries regardless of output.
2. A worker who has bad attitudes and wants the government to protect his job from being discriminated against because of his bad attitude.
3. Workers who want more benefits like free childcare, paid vacations, shorter hours, more paid sick leave, higher retirement incomes and so forth, in an economy where most business employers are struggling just to stay afloat.
3. Minorities who want to be given special status when competing for jobs and special protections when being disciplined for poor performance.
4. Workers who want their employment secure in spite of poor performance, laziness, bad attitudes, bad conduct, unreliable behaviors, incompetency and so forth.
And others.
 
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Perhaps the solution would be for each employer/employee to reach a firm contract agreement, for a period of 3, 6, 12 or more months guaranteeing a wage and/or any other benefits to be renegotiated with any changes applied agreeably for a same or longer period of time near or at the end of the contract period?
 
marke said:
Communist party platforms support more government regulation and control of businesses and the establishment of labor unions to force businesses to meet workers' demands. What kind of worker benefits from such oppression of business and free enterprise economies?

1. A lazy worker who likes the idea of employers being forced to pay higher salaries regardless of output.
2. A worker who has bad attitudes and wants the government to protect his job from being discriminated against because of his bad attitude.
3. Workers who want more benefits like free childcare, paid vacations, shorter hours, more paid sick leave, higher retirement incomes and so forth, in an economy where most business employers are struggling just to stay afloat.
3. Minorities who want to be given special status when competing for jobs and special protections when being disciplined for poor performance.
4. Workers who want their employment secure in spite of poor performance, laziness, bad attitudes, bad conduct, unreliable behaviors, incompetency and so forth.
And others.
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5. Government workers.
 
Workers in well regulated industries. In Germany, workers are mandated a place on the board. It might just be an investment for the shareholders, but it's the worker's living.
 
What kind of worker benefits from increased government involvement in private businesses?

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Greenbeard said:
"Workers who want benefits" is all workers.
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Workers who want the government or unions to force employers to pay them far more than they are worth and far more than the market can bear are democrats to the bone.
 
Individual said:
Perhaps the solution would be for each employer/employee to reach a firm contract agreement, for a period of 3, 6, 12 or more months guaranteeing a wage and/or any other benefits to be renegotiated with any changes applied agreeably for a same or longer period of time near or at the end of the contract period?
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That might work, in a free market, as long as the government or commie unions do not try to get involved.
 
uptower said:
workers
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Lazy workers more than energetic workers. Slow workers more than fast workers. Bad workers more than good workers. Irresponsible workers more than responsible workers.
 
Manc Skipper said:
Workers in well regulated industries. In Germany, workers are mandated a place on the board. It might just be an investment for the shareholders, but it's the worker's living.
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Other nations can do what other nations do, but America should continue to do what made America great for decades before socialists began trying to 'fix' things to match the Europeans.
 
marke said:
That might work, in a free market, as long as the government or commie unions do not try to get involved.
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I see no reason it couldn't/wouldn't work in the current market. The Company I retired from frequently employed temporary workers, and some of them were made more permanent employees.
 
Individual said:
I see no reason it couldn't/wouldn't work in the current market. The Company I retired from frequently employed temporary workers, and some of them were made more permanent employees.
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Companies should do what works in a free market, not what the government tells them to do with no regard to what the market will bear. For example, the market will not bear the increased costs associated with ridiculously high benefits packages for workers that cannot be supported by limited company profits in the marketplace.
 
marke said:
Communist party platforms support more government regulation and control of businesses and the establishment of labor unions to force businesses to meet workers' demands. What kind of worker benefits from such oppression of business and free enterprise economies?

1. A lazy worker who likes the idea of employers being forced to pay higher salaries regardless of output.
2. A worker who has bad attitudes and wants the government to protect his job from being discriminated against because of his bad attitude.
3. Workers who want more benefits like free childcare, paid vacations, shorter hours, more paid sick leave, higher retirement incomes and so forth, in an economy where most business employers are struggling just to stay afloat.
3. Minorities who want to be given special status when competing for jobs and special protections when being disciplined for poor performance.
4. Workers who want their employment secure in spite of poor performance, laziness, bad attitudes, bad conduct, unreliable behaviors, incompetency and so forth.
And others.
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child laborers
 
marke said:
Companies should do what works in a free market, not what the government tells them to do with no regard to what the market will bear. For example, the market will not bear the increased costs associated with ridiculously high benefits packages for workers that cannot be supported by limited company profits in the marketplace.
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Apparently, The Market™ bore the costs of 12 yr olds working 12 hour days.
 
marke said:
Other nations can do what other nations do, but America should continue to do what made America great for decades before socialists began trying to 'fix' things to match the Europeans.
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We'llcarry on surviving in our socialist hellhole with productivity higher than the USA, alongside six weeks vacation, sick pay, mat/paternity leave, universal healthcare, social security benefits, Equal opportunities, and minimum wage and pensions laws... A worker's paradise.
 
marke said:
Leftist weenies have gotten laws passed making it a crime for children to help their parents on the farm. Leftist weenies are morons.
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They stopped children being forced to climb chimneys to clean them too! Wimps.
 
Simon W. Moon said:
Apparently, The Market™ bore the costs of 12 yr olds working 12 hour days.
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There are millions of people around the world today who beg God every day their kids can find a job to help support their starving families. Leftist weenies do not care about that, they want their ideas implemented no matter how stupid, immoral, impractical or unjust they are.
 
Manc Skipper said:
We'llcarry on surviving in our socialist hellhole with productivity higher than the USA, alongside six weeks vacation, sick pay, mat/paternity leave, universal healthcare, social security benefits, Equal opportunities, and minimum wage and pensions laws... A worker's paradise.
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You people can keep your sterile heaven on earth. Americans are accustomed to enjoying greater liberties and freedoms without government interference, even though socialist democrats in America are determined to change all of that.
 
Individual said:
Perhaps the solution would be for each employer/employee to reach a firm contract agreement, for a period of 3, 6, 12 or more months guaranteeing a wage and/or any other benefits to be renegotiated with any changes applied agreeably for a same or longer period of time near or at the end of the contract period?
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My contract with my employees was even simpler. For every billable hour they worked I paid them their billable rate, minus 10% for overhead. They got nothing for overtime, no sick days, no vacation days, and no holidays. If they wanted health insurance I provided them access to cheap Blue Cross/Blue Shield coverage, but they paid for it entirely themselves.

They only got paid for the billable hours they worked, nothing else.
 
Manc Skipper said:
They stopped children being forced to climb chimneys to clean them too! Wimps.
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That is the reason? Leftist morons and destroyed hundreds of years of freedom and tradition regarding children helping out on the family farm due to chimney sweeps? What a bunch of letft-wing idiots!
 
Glitch said:
My contract with my employees was even simpler. For every billable hour they worked I paid them their billable rate, minus 10% for overhead. They got nothing for overtime, no sick days, no vacation days, and no holidays. If they wanted health insurance I provided them access to cheap Blue Cross/Blue Shield coverage, but they paid for it entirely themselves.

They only got paid for the billable hours they worked, nothing else.
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I hired a 16 year old black kid one time because he came by my shop and begged for a job. I had compassion on him. I liked his attitude and resourcefulness. I took him to the county seat and helped him get a work permit and he began work. I had him doing little things to start out because he was young and had no experience.

One week went by and I got a call from the state labor board informing me they had reviewed the kid's application for a work permit and had revoked it. I asked them why and they said it was because he was not allowed to operate equipment. I told them he would not be operating equipment but they did not care. Their decision was final. When I told the 16 year old 240lb hunk of a boy he was no longer allowed to work at my shop, he started crying. I was so sorry for him and I hate the government policies which so cruelly oppress Americans like that poor kid.
 
marke said:
Lazy workers more than energetic workers. Slow workers more than fast workers. Bad workers more than good workers. Irresponsible workers more than responsible workers.
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Probably some more than others, but all workers in the end.
 
Simon W. Moon said:
Apparently, The Market™ bore the costs of 12 yr olds working 12 hour days.
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It did. So what? Train kids not to work? Is that what the leftists have to offer? Don't let them work regular jobs while young so they will stand a better chance of being arrested for selling drugs before they turn 18?
 
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