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    Re: Vapng vs Smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by Glitch View Post
    I also did RYO cigarettes for years. I started smoking when cigarettes were $0.25 per pack, the same price as a gallon of gasoline at the time. I paid $40 for a cigarette roller and maybe $25 a month in tobacco and cigarette blanks. It would take maybe 10 to 15 minutes each day to manually roll out the pack-and-a-half that I smoked each day.

    The trick is finding the right tobacco.

    I don't smoke any longer, but I have no problem with those who do. I still enjoy the smell and flavor of tobacco, I just prefer not to be addicted to another substance. If they could make nicotine-free tobacco, I would go back to smoking in a heartbeat.
    I smoke for 3 reasons.
    1. I enjoy it.
    2. It keeps me from hollering at people.
    3. I can now afford it a lot better since I've been rolling my own.

    The only problem i really have with smoking, is the crybabies around me telling me I can't.

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    Re: Vapng vs Smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by Gdjjr View Post
    It encourages cops shooting people too-
    Well you're right, but that was a separate matter--untaxed cigarettes v. taxed cigarettes.

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    Re: Vapng vs Smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    So if they ban vapers...then more people will buy off the black market...and more people will die, not less.

    Perhaps Michigan law makers didn't think this through.
    Politicians rarely think anything through. They're known for their knee jerk reactions.

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    Re: Vapng vs Smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    The majority of lung cancer is caused by first and secondhand smoke.
    That's what they say. But just how true is it?

    When I was an OTR driver, I hauled a lot of Flammable 3's and Corrosive 8's into food and drink places. Ice cream, soda plants, candy plants and a whole slew of other places. ALL of which went into their product. Just because the FDA says it's safe for the majority of people, doesn't mean it's safe for everyone. You could drink Pepsi every day your whole life and never get cancer. But because your bodies anatomy & chemistry is different than someone else's, doesn't mean someone else isn't going to get cancer from the same pepsi. So, they get cancer. And if they smoke, the doctors will claim it's from the smoking. Why? Because that's the easy way. And because there's no way to tell what actually gave that person cancer. It could've been the chemicals mixed with the Pepsi and cigarettes. It could've been the ice cream chemicals mixed with the Pepsi chemicals. And the smoking may not have had anything to do with it.

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    Re: Vapng vs Smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by Gdjjr View Post
    I'll smoke to that! LOL
    I just lit one in celebration of maybe offending a non-smoking crybaby. It's as fun as pissing off the republicans and democrats, at the same time.

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    Re: Vapng vs Smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyDollar View Post
    That's what they say. But just how true is it?

    When I was an OTR driver, I hauled a lot of Flammable 3's and Corrosive 8's into food and drink places. Ice cream, soda plants, candy plants and a whole slew of other places. ALL of which went into their product. Just because the FDA says it's safe for the majority of people, doesn't mean it's safe for everyone. You could drink Pepsi every day your whole life and never get cancer. But because your bodies anatomy & chemistry is different than someone else's, doesn't mean someone else isn't going to get cancer from the same pepsi. So, they get cancer. And if they smoke, the doctors will claim it's from the smoking. Why? Because that's the easy way. And because there's no way to tell what actually gave that person cancer. It could've been the chemicals mixed with the Pepsi and cigarettes. It could've been the ice cream chemicals mixed with the Pepsi chemicals. And the smoking may not have had anything to do with it.
    The link between smoking and cancer is way past the debating stage.

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    Re: Vapng vs Smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    The link between smoking and cancer is way past the debating stage.
    Says who?
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    Re: Vapng vs Smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by Gdjjr View Post
    Says who?
    Every credible scientist who has studied it.

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    Re: Vapng vs Smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    Well you're right, but that was a separate matter--untaxed cigarettes v. taxed cigarettes.
    Coercion and threat of force is at the heart of every political conversation- taxes are political fodder- Eric Holder was killed for allegedly trying to by pass the "tax" in NYC- common denominator?
    All men are created equal and have certain unalienable rights- there are no caveats.
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    Re: Vapng vs Smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    Every credible scientist who has studied it.
    That doesn't end a debate- the debate is ended only when people stop debating it- maybe scientist have stopped debating but obviously citizens haven't- what right do scientist, or you, have to tell me what not to debate? Think it through- not thinking through is what politicians do- are you running for political office?
    All men are created equal and have certain unalienable rights- there are no caveats.
    Truth is constant, what was true yesterday is true today and will be true tomorrow.
    Knowledge evolves, is not biased in its origin, and can manifest itself in ways unimaginable.

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