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    Re: Vapng vs Smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by Bullseye View Post
    I was reading this piece this morning talking about how the state of Michigan is banning all flavored vaping materials, except tobacco flavor; several other cities have enacted similar measures but it got me thinking. There's been some talk on the hazards of vaping - there's even been a death attributed to vaping.

    So, I'm wondering why, if these entities are so attuned to the health concerns of their constituents, why only go after vaping. Don't far more people get sick and die from smoking tobacco? Why not ban the sales of cigarettes and other tobacco products. The percentage of people who smoke has been declining for a long time- why not just cut it to zero and be done with it?

    Other than for about two days in Navy boot camp I've never smoked or vaped so I plead ignorance as to the attraction addictiveness.


    I hate to be cynical (no I don't) but is it possible that to our elected representatives tax revenues from the sale of cigarettes are more important than our health?


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    Re: Vapng vs Smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense 1 View Post
    You are taking a big risk by vaping! Your respiratory system is designed to remove impurities and warm the air that enters your lungs.
    Vaping fills your lungs with all kinds junk! Now people are dying from it.

    3rd vaping death reported, health officials urge people to temporarily stop vaping

    3rd vaping death reported, health officials urge people to temporarily stop vaping

    NEW YORK (AP) — U.S. health officials are again urging people to stop vaping until they figure out why some are coming down with serious breathing illnesses.

    Officials on Friday said they had identified 450 possible illnesses, including at least three deaths, in 33 states. The count includes a newly reported death in Indiana.

    Health officials say no single vaping device, liquid or ingredient has been tied to all the illnesses. Many of the sickened — but not all — were people who had been vaping THC, the chemical that gives marijuana its high.


    3rd vaping death reported, health officials urge people to temporarily stop vaping
    Are we sure this isn't from all the environmental rollbacks from this administration?
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    Re: Vapng vs Smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    Smoking makes you look cool, vaping makes you grow a neck beard, enough said.
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    Re: Vapng vs Smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by Gdjjr View Post
    I've smoked since I was 14- I'm 71. I tried vaping a couple years ago and it ain't the same. Vaping is inhaling steam- kinda like living in Houston except a bit more concentrated.
    Smoke has more density- I determined vaping wasn't satisfying.
    You must not have been vaping a high enough nicotine. Do yourself a favor, get some 36mg Nic tobacco juice and try it again. It is the nicotine that you want, the rest is smokescreen by your brain. I quit tobacco 10 years ago with vaping. I'm 67 vape everyday and my lungs feel great.
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    Re: Vapng vs Smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You must not have been vaping a high enough nicotine. Do yourself a favor, get some 36mg Nic tobacco juice and try it again. It is the nicotine that you want, the rest is smokescreen by your brain. I quit tobacco 10 years ago with vaping. I'm 67 vape everyday and my lungs feel great.
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    Re: Vapng vs Smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense 1 View Post
    Well watch the news and see people are dying from vaping now? So it's your choice?
    Yes, it is my choice- choice is the most basic right- who granted the gov't the authority to force people to not do what people do?
    Making an action criminal is revenue generation. Period.
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    Re: Vapng vs Smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    Just not as many people who die from smoking. Something like 112 people will die today due to second hand smoke.
    People die every day- it can't be avoided. Hell, cops shoot more people than that.
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    Re: Vapng vs Smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by Bullseye View Post
    I was reading this piece this morning talking about how the state of Michigan is banning all flavored vaping materials, except tobacco flavor; several other cities have enacted similar measures but it got me thinking. There's been some talk on the hazards of vaping - there's even been a death attributed to vaping.

    So, I'm wondering why, if these entities are so attuned to the health concerns of their constituents, why only go after vaping. Don't far more people get sick and die from smoking tobacco? Why not ban the sales of cigarettes and other tobacco products. The percentage of people who smoke has been declining for a long time- why not just cut it to zero and be done with it?

    Other than for about two days in Navy boot camp I've never smoked or vaped so I plead ignorance as to the attraction addictiveness.


    I hate to be cynical (no I don't) but is it possible that to our elected representatives tax revenues from the sale of cigarettes are more important than our health?


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    Tobacco has long been a government cash cow. People don't shoot their cash cow.

    Next up will be MJ. A 30% tax on an illegal substance that people will consume either way. What better source of revenue?

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    Re: Vapng vs Smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    They can't just ban cigarettes because several states still depend on a tobacco industry that creates thousands of jobs and brings in billions in tax revenue.

    Tobacco Production By State - WorldAtlas.com


    But the FDA wants to change the warning labels on cigarette packs to something more graphic...

    FDA Proposes Graphic Warning Labels For Cigarettes
    Sure. Putting a warning label on cigarette packages worked so well last time.

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    Re: Vapng vs Smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by Gdjjr View Post
    Yes, it is my choice- choice is the most basic right- who granted the gov't the authority to force people to not do what people do?
    Making an action criminal is revenue generation. Period.
    The government has the same right over cigarettes that it does over abortion and guns. They can't outlaw it but they can regulate it.
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