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Why goverbment bureaucracy sucks

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This is the job description for the Northeast Regional Office for the US Bureau of Prisons -

The Northeast Region (NER) covers Federal Bureau of Prison facilities located in Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Vermont. These facilities are overseen by a regional office that provides oversight, technical assistance, and other types of operational support. In addition, they conduct training programs for staff in their region and assist state and local criminal justice agencies.

The office provides oversight, training, support, etc. for all the federal prisons in that region.

It's also where the warden for the MCC is being reassigned. - Warden of jail where Jeffrey Epstein killed himself reassigned

Just so we're clear, the warden under whose watch the most high profile prisoner in the whole damned system either took his own life or was murdered is going to be given a job overseeing and training prisons in that region.

This is a big part of why I got out of the service. Idiots who totally couldn't hack it on the front lines kept on getting pulled off the street and given office jobs where they wrote training manuals and set policy.

This is why government bureaucracy totally sucks. In the real world that kind of incompetence would warrant getting fired or maybe even ending up with criminal charges. In a pseudo-real world the idiot would be assigned to the Tin Hut Alaska Federal Prison Igloo where the only responsibility is making sure not to get eaten by a polar bear. But that's not what happens here. Here the idiot ends up with the same rate of pay, the same retirement benefits and a cushy office job.
 



They can't fire the guy before they determine what went wrong. They basically yanked him from the prison and almost certainly put him on a desk where he'll be answering questions about what went wrong for the next 6 weeks. If Epstein's suicide was his fault, he won't be there for long. Or, if it was as simple as one or two guards calling in sick, then maybe he shouldn't be fired at all.

The private sector isn't much different. There are times when you can fire someone at a drop of a hat, and times when you can't -- especially at the top levels. Look at how much had to happen before Travis Kalanick got fired as CEO of Uber -- and even then, he stayed on the board, and made billions from Uber's IPO.

By the way, Epstein wasn't murdered. Please get real, or take it to CT.
 
This is the job description for the Northeast Regional Office for the US Bureau of Prisons -



The office provides oversight, training, support, etc. for all the federal prisons in that region.

It's also where the warden for the MCC is being reassigned. - Warden of jail where Jeffrey Epstein killed himself reassigned

Just so we're clear, the warden under whose watch the most high profile prisoner in the whole damned system either took his own life or was murdered is going to be given a job overseeing and training prisons in that region.

This is a big part of why I got out of the service. Idiots who totally couldn't hack it on the front lines kept on getting pulled off the street and given office jobs where they wrote training manuals and set policy.

This is why government bureaucracy totally sucks. In the real world that kind of incompetence would warrant getting fired or maybe even ending up with criminal charges. In a pseudo-real world the idiot would be assigned to the Tin Hut Alaska Federal Prison Igloo where the only responsibility is making sure not to get eaten by a polar bear. But that's not what happens here. Here the idiot ends up with the same rate of pay, the same retirement benefits and a cushy office job.

So here's a good idea; let's make government even bigger and hand over private industry to the waste, cost and bureaucracy to squander funding and make our country go broke. And have complete and total incompetence in leadership, to boot.
 
This is the job description for the Northeast Regional Office for the US Bureau of Prisons -



The office provides oversight, training, support, etc. for all the federal prisons in that region.

It's also where the warden for the MCC is being reassigned. - Warden of jail where Jeffrey Epstein killed himself reassigned

Just so we're clear, the warden under whose watch the most high profile prisoner in the whole damned system either took his own life or was murdered is going to be given a job overseeing and training prisons in that region.

This is a big part of why I got out of the service. Idiots who totally couldn't hack it on the front lines kept on getting pulled off the street and given office jobs where they wrote training manuals and set policy.

This is why government bureaucracy totally sucks. In the real world that kind of incompetence would warrant getting fired or maybe even ending up with criminal charges. In a pseudo-real world the idiot would be assigned to the Tin Hut Alaska Federal Prison Igloo where the only responsibility is making sure not to get eaten by a polar bear. But that's not what happens here. Here the idiot ends up with the same rate of pay, the same retirement benefits and a cushy office job.

Well, that is a shame the warden got reassigned to a post regulating prisons but your post does not provide us with his responsibility and authority to write regulations in his new job. He could simply be the scribe or some other low level clerk. As for incompetence within the government, the same can be said about corporate America. When I see criticisms of this sort that ignore the reality of human interactions in large groups, all large groups, I tend to view that criticism through the lens of confirmation bias. Even the military has these problems, it is a human failing not a government failing. We must all strive to do our best but no grouping of people can have all-stars in every position. Even if they did, those all-stars can still be beaten. Just witness the Laker team that Malone and Payton joined, they lost in the final with one of the most stacked teams in the history of basketball.
 
By the way, Epstein wasn't murdered. Please get real, or take it to CT.

Let's be clear about something. When someone says that dead aliens have been studied in Area51 or that Obama was born in Kenya, we are talking about a conspiracy theory.

With Epstein, you have someone who died the very next day after saying he has dirt on many very powerful people. You may believe it is likelier to be a suicide than a murder, but we're far from someone who says 911 was an inside job. If he had real dirt on top-ranking politicians and wealthy people, he had a very long list of people who wanted him dead and possibly could make that happen.

I have no opinion on the subject. It just sounds exaggerated to ask people to "get real."
 
This has nothing to do with the government, specifically. Given how little we know about any involvement he may or may not have had, it's silly to suggest he should be treated as guilty and punished. I agree that he shouldn't be - seemingly - promoted yet, either, but maybe he'd already gotten the job before the Epstein thing, or maybe it's just a temporary placement, as someone else mentioned, while they investigate further.

I'm actually in the middle of an issue at work where they're doing to me basically exactly what you want them to do to this guy, and it ****ing sucks. We had a couple of other people on our shift (of which, i am just a grunt, not a supervisor or in anyway responsible for my coworkers) that were breaking rules pretty majorly - and they were fired. However, instead of just leaving the rest of us out of it, we got reamed for an hour and accused of being guilty and that we should be grateful for keeping our jobs, despite them having no evidence that any of us did anything. Then, 2 weeks later, they're just ending our shift and we may be laid off, it's yet to be seen. All for something that has nothing to do with me or most of my coworkers. I was actually not even at work the weekend the major offenses were discovered because I was out sick - something they're also now punishing me for, because we don't have a sick leave policy and I'm part of the group they're targeting currently.

ALL bureaucracy is garbage, but it's everywhere. Even in places I've worked with only half a dozen employees had dumb **** going on.
 
This is the job description for the Northeast Regional Office for the US Bureau of Prisons -



The office provides oversight, training, support, etc. for all the federal prisons in that region.

It's also where the warden for the MCC is being reassigned. - Warden of jail where Jeffrey Epstein killed himself reassigned

Just so we're clear, the warden under whose watch the most high profile prisoner in the whole damned system either took his own life or was murdered is going to be given a job overseeing and training prisons in that region.

This is a big part of why I got out of the service. Idiots who totally couldn't hack it on the front lines kept on getting pulled off the street and given office jobs where they wrote training manuals and set policy.

This is why government bureaucracy totally sucks. In the real world that kind of incompetence would warrant getting fired or maybe even ending up with criminal charges. In a pseudo-real world the idiot would be assigned to the Tin Hut Alaska Federal Prison Igloo where the only responsibility is making sure not to get eaten by a polar bear. But that's not what happens here. Here the idiot ends up with the same rate of pay, the same retirement benefits and a cushy office job.

You've hit a sore spot with me. When I was first teaching high school, we got a new supervisor. This position included training new teachers like myself, setting policy, developing curriculum, and managing resources. This guy was horrible at it. Even I, a young inexperienced teacher, could see he sucked at the job. I asked one of our administrators why he got that job. The reply; "we needed to get him out of the classroom somehow".
 
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