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    Re: Slavery Reparations

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    Re: Slavery Reparations

    Quote Originally Posted by Huey Freeman View Post
    I'm not a human? Cool. Neither are you.
    I never said you were not human. That is what you said about many people.

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    You see, I was one of those naive people of color who believed, right after Obama was elected, that white people had turned the page on race.
    You expand pages upon pages about "white people," as if all white people are the same. On this thread and other, you are one of the few people who invoke race at every turn. I don't give a damn about the color of your skin, or that of anyone else for that matter.

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    Then, incredibly, over 50 million of you monsters voted for someone who affirmed his daughter as a "piece of ass", who claimed that a Hispanic judge could not fairly adjudicate his case, and roused his base to support extrajudicial imprisonment of political opponents, I could no longer turn a blind eye to whiteness. Whiteness is, as Dubois and Baldwin have pointed out, killing this country and tearing it apart at the seams.
    You seem to be unaware of an obvious fact: millions of white people did not vote for Trump and hundreds of thousands of black people did.

    The only thing tearing the US apart are people who insist on seeing everything as a matter of skin color. Not all black people are the same. Not all white people are the same. Not all hispanic people are the same. Not all asian people are the same... Nobody wakes up in the morning thinking "How can I make sure my race has an edge over other races?" The truth is that most people have other things on their mind. In the real world, people think about their rent, not about the skin color of the guy who flips burgers at the local McDonald's or that of their accountant for that matter.

    The idea that millions of people across states, continents and time somehow align their behavior following a handful of arbitrary variables like the color of their skin or what dangles or not between their legs is ludicrous. Even if everyone was a deep racist, this narrative would run headfirst into the wall because of an obvious truism: no matter how much anyone hates you, I can guarantee you they like themselves more than they hate you. That idea comes from Thomas Sowell, a man whose beliefs stand starkly at odds with yours but ... wait for it ... he is black. He actually believes nearly every single policy you support did more to hurt black people than Jim Crow laws and perhaps even slavery -- and that actually is a paraphrase of his opinion, not mine.

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    Re: Slavery Reparations

    Quote Originally Posted by TheEconomist View Post
    I never said you were not human. That is what you said about many people.



    You expand pages upon pages about "white people," as if all white people are the same. On this thread and other, you are one of the few people who invoke race at every turn. I don't give a damn about the color of your skin, or that of anyone else for that matter.



    You seem to be unaware of an obvious fact: millions of white people did not vote for Trump and hundreds of thousands of black people did.

    The only thing tearing the US apart are people who insist on seeing everything as a matter of skin color. Not all black people are the same. Not all white people are the same. Not all hispanic people are the same. Not all asian people are the same... Nobody wakes up in the morning thinking "How can I make sure my race has an edge over other races?" The truth is that most people have other things on their mind. In the real world, people think about their rent, not about the skin color of the guy who flips burgers at the local McDonald's or that of their accountant for that matter.

    The idea that millions of people across states, continents and time somehow align their behavior following a handful of arbitrary variables like the color of their skin or what dangles or not between their legs is ludicrous. Even if everyone was a deep racist, this narrative would run headfirst into the wall because of an obvious truism: no matter how much anyone hates you, I can guarantee you they like themselves more than they hate you. That idea comes from Thomas Sowell, a man whose beliefs stand starkly at odds with yours but ... wait for it ... he is black. He actually believes nearly every single policy you support did more to hurt black people than Jim Crow laws and perhaps even slavery -- and that actually is a paraphrase of his opinion, not mine.
    Sowell is a RW hack. There is that.
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    Re: Slavery Reparations

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Sowell is a RW hack. There is that.
    Edify us with your proof that Sowell is a hack. And tell us what he has said is wrong
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    Re: Slavery Reparations

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Edify us with your proof that Sowell is a hack. And tell us what he has said is wrong
    Uh, do you believe the "war on poverty" was worse for Blacks than slavery and Jim Crow?


    Do tell.
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    Re: Slavery Reparations

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Uh, do you believe the "war on poverty" was worse for Blacks than slavery and Jim Crow?


    Do tell.
    Depends on how you evaluate things. I think blacks, as a whole, would be better off now if the war on poverty had been much different and if it created less dependency
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    Re: Slavery Reparations

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Sowell is a RW hack. There is that.
    Waiting for you to back this nonsense up. Sounds like the racist view that if a Black doesn't support the political expectations of leftwing whites, he must be a "hack" or "Uncle Tom" or worse.
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    Re: Slavery Reparations

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Depends on how you evaluate things. I think blacks, as a whole, would be better off now if the war on poverty had been much different and if it created less dependency
    That's not the question. Sowell said slavery and Crow were less harmful to blacks than the WOP. That's hackish bull****.

    Agreed?

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    Waiting for you to back this nonsense up. Sounds like the racist view that if a Black doesn't support the political expectations of leftwing whites, he must be a "hack" or "Uncle Tom" or worse.
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    Re: Slavery Reparations

    Quote Originally Posted by TheEconomist View Post
    You seem to be unaware of an obvious fact: millions of white people did not vote for Trump and hundreds of thousands of black people did.

    The only thing tearing the US apart are people who insist on seeing everything as a matter of skin color. Not all black people are the same. Not all white people are the same. Not all hispanic people are the same. Not all asian people are the same... Nobody wakes up in the morning thinking "How can I make sure my race has an edge over other races?" The truth is that most people have other things on their mind. In the real world, people think about their rent, not about the skin color of the guy who flips burgers at the local McDonald's or that of their accountant for that matter..
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    This is my last post on the matter because not only are we speaking different languages but we've drifted so far from the topic of reparations (the topic at hand) that this thread is lost. IMO, it should be shut down, taken off life support, put in a coffin, and buried 6 feet under. I insist on "seeing everything as a matter of skin color"? Really? This country is founded upon "a matter of skin color", waged an entire war against itself regarding "a matter of skin color", instituted separate institutions, water fountains, and facilities on "a matter of skin color"; this country lynched, redlined, gerrymandered, and assassinated its own citizens as "a matter of skin color". Now, in 2019, where you have white people shooting up black churches, killing black people in the street, gerrymandering our vote into non-existence, you have the audacity to tell me that I'm seeing everything "as a matter of skin color" and that you "don't see race"? Please. This is our reality whether you choose to validate it or not.

    I don't care about your individualism or your white supremacy. The whole "I don't see race" canard is the most disingenuous crap white people throw at people of color. Race or skin color is the VERY FIRST thing you notice about a person. I notice it, you notice it, everyone notices it first. To claim otherwise, is offensive. We live in an environment that is whiteness. Everything is white. God is white, Jesus is white, Mary is white, the Easter Bunny is white, Santa Claus is white (I'm looking at you Megan Kelly), our heroes and heroines are white, our standard of beauty are white, our celebrated actresses and actors are white, our judiciary is white, our Congress is white, our President and his cabinet are white, every last Vice President since the founding of the US has been white, even the cast of Game of Thrones are white. White white white white white white white. The reason we keep talking pass one another is because you have this autistic-like focus on the individual. Let me be clear, I reject individualism. I reject individualism because white supremacists use individualism as a way to table the discussion of race. It's done in a way to say "Well, I'm not racist so I don't see the problem"; it's done to deny people of color their experience and to parrot this narrative that racism doesn't exist in this country. So, I don't really care what you, as the individual, think or do. It's not about you. It's about our white supremacist culture that demonizes and dehumanizes people of color. When you say "I'm not racist", it rings hollow because no one - and I mean no one - admits that they are racist. Stop and think about this. Can you name one person (you can even use fiction) who has admitted "Yes, what I did was racist and wrong". No white person does this. Ever. This merits repeating. White people can admit to homicide, theft, burglary, rape, incest, even bestiality, but they cannot admit their own racism. Even Dylann Roof who shot up 9 INNOCENT black church-goers wrote in the first line of his manifesto that he isn't from a racist home. Can you not grasp the cognitive dissonance there? Don't answer, btw, it was a rhetorical question.

    Continued in the next post. . ..
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    Re: Slavery Reparations

    Quote Originally Posted by TheEconomist View Post
    I never said you were not human. That is what you said about many people.



    You expand pages upon pages about "white people," as if all white people are the same. On this thread and other, you are one of the few people who invoke race at every turn. I don't give a damn about the color of your skin, or that of anyone else for that matter.



    You seem to be unaware of an obvious fact: millions of white people did not vote for Trump and hundreds of thousands of black people did.

    The only thing tearing the US apart are people who insist on seeing everything as a matter of skin color. Not all black people are the same. Not all white people are the same. Not all hispanic people are the same. Not all asian people are the same... Nobody wakes up in the morning thinking "How can I make sure my race has an edge over other races?" The truth is that most people have other things on their mind. In the real world, people think about their rent, not about the skin color of the guy who flips burgers at the local McDonald's or that of their accountant for that matter.

    The idea that millions of people across states, continents and time somehow align their behavior following a handful of arbitrary variables like the color of their skin or what dangles or not between their legs is ludicrous. Even if everyone was a deep racist, this narrative would run headfirst into the wall because of an obvious truism: no matter how much anyone hates you, I can guarantee you they like themselves more than they hate you. That idea comes from Thomas Sowell, a man whose beliefs stand starkly at odds with yours but ... wait for it ... he is black. He actually believes nearly every single policy you support did more to hurt black people than Jim Crow laws and perhaps even slavery -- and that actually is a paraphrase of his opinion, not mine.
    Continued from the post above.

    You will never understand my experience. And, because you have autism, you're unequipped to even empathize or sympathize, it is useless to try. But, to give you an analogy. Imagine it's the presidential campaign of 2032 and it's Louis Farrakhan vs. Mitt Romney; all of the minorities voted for and elected Louis Farrakhan as US President. Throughout the campaign, Farrakhan puts out rhetoric that dehumanizes white people, painting them as criminal, gun-crazed freeloaders, and disease-ridden colonizers. He claims after centuries of inbreeding and mixing with Neanderthals and left them with inferior genes and higher autism rates than other ethnic groups. He cherry-picks statistics to back up his claims. He constantly slips up and makes anti-Semitic and anti-European jokes but puts out half-hearted apologies; these weak apologies are lapped up by the media as sincere and genuine. Farrakhan advocates mandatory minimums for drinking and driving (Farrakhan picks D&D to specifically target whites) and demands the USAF replace the regular salute with the Wakanda Forever salute. When Farrakhan's unpresidential flaws are brought up, minorities make excuses for Farrakhan "He's a counterpuncher" or "His leadership style is different" or "He was voted to shake up Washington". If Farrakhan puts little white babies in cages, minorities are either indifferent or they blame the white parents: "We must follow our laws and protect our border". When white folk question minorities (who are also poor and will also be hurt by Farrakhan's polices) on why they voted for Farrakhan, minorities say some weird **** like "The Republican party was too much into helping white folks, I prefer if you guys stopped that " or "Yeah, I'm a farmer, I desperately want to sell my pork to foreign markets, I realize Farrakhan will pull us out of TPP" or "I realize that I am fifth generation farmer with loads of debt and razor-thin profit margins, I know I am going to lose money and be less better off, but I am voting for Farrakhan anyway because I didn't like Mitt Romney's comments about the 47%". How would you feel about people of color after voting someone as vociferously anti-white as Farrakhan into the Presidency? Again, don't answer, this is a rhetorical question.

    And, with that, I'm done. While I had high hopes for a great discussion, it is clear to me that this is a waste of time. Enjoy the rest of your week.

    Peace
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