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Why shouldn't capitalism be better regulated?

enderpotato00 said:
Does capitalism need some regulation? Of course
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you mean of course not since it is self-regulating for maximum compassion. If you don't offer the best products and jobs you go bankrupt!! Now are you a conservative?
 
Gary said:
The conservatives of today have drifted to the point of anarchy.
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totally wrong. Trump is barely conservative yet he cut taxes to free us from govt, cut govt regulations, is trying to kill Obama commie care, has rebuilt military, and Democrats despise him so he must be doing something right and conservative. Do you understand?
 
James972 said:
totally wrong. Trump is barely conservative yet he cut taxes to free us from govt, cut govt regulations, is trying to kill Obama commie care, has rebuilt military, and Democrats despise him so he must be doing something right and conservative. Do you understand?
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No, I don't understand, because tRump isn't a conservative and never has been one. All conservatives know tariffs are taxes, but tRump says the countries pay them, according to his lies. TRump gave a tax cut to mostly the rich and took as much out of one hand as he put in the other for citizens not rich. Post evidence he rebuilt the military, tRump has never had a military budget higher than Obama had. tRump is a con man and he isn't going to con me.
 
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Gary said:
No, I don't understand, because tRump isn't a conservative and never has been one.
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dear, I just gave you list of the very conservative things had has done as president? Why do you think liberals hate him?????? 1+1=2
 
Gary said:
All conservatives know tariffs are taxes, but tRump says the countries pay them, according to his lies.
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conservatives are opposed to tariffs and so is Trump but he is using them to teach China that they are bad so they too will eliminate them. 1+1=2
 
Gary said:
TRump gave a tax cut to mostly the rich and took as much out of one hand as he put in the other for citizens not rich.
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the rich pay all the taxes so any meaningful cuts will obviously favor the rich who have been disfavored so much by previous taxes. Do you understand???
 
Gary said:
. Post evidence he rebuilt the military, tRump has never had a military budget higher than Obama had. tRump is a con man and he isn't going to con me.
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??? Republicans are always more pro defense than Democrats. A child would know this!!
 
James972 said:
dear, I just gave you list of the very conservative things had has done as president? Why do you think liberals hate him?????? 1+1=2
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tRump isn't hated for the ideology he doesn't possess, he's hated, because he's the biggest liar someone can imagine and he does crazy things like the tariffs. tRump is also considered a criminal.
 
James972 said:
conservatives are opposed to tariffs and so is Trump but he is using them to teach China that they are bad so they too will eliminate them. 1+1=2
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tRump can't even teach his kids.
 
James972 said:
the rich pay all the taxes so any meaningful cuts will obviously favor the rich who have been disfavored so much by previous taxes. Do you understand???
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Bull, the rich don't pay all the taxes and tRump probably doesn't pay any taxes. He only paid 8 out of 10 in those past years that were checked.
 
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ataraxia said:
Irrelevant. We can argue about who did it. Whoever it was, it wasn't the free market.
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Nothing humans have ever created had ended more poverty than the "Free Market" The early Religious Right made it an issue the "Free Market" made the solution possible.

One of the facts of history that most people miss is that compared to the Agrarian Feudalist Societies of the pre-industrial revaluation, children were on average much worse off than when the children of the industrial revolution that the free market created. This in no way excuses the misery of child labor of that time period, but it does put the history of the human condition in perspective.
 
Casca XV said:
Nothing humans have ever created had ended more poverty than the "Free Market" The early Religious Right made it an issue the "Free Market" made the solution possible.

One of the facts of history that most people miss is that compared to the Agrarian Feudalist Societies of the pre-industrial revaluation, children were on average much worse off than when the children of the industrial revolution that the free market created. This in no way excuses the misery of child labor of that time period, but it does put the history of the human condition in perspective.
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Interesting to see a totally unregulated and obsessively darwinian and predatory system being defended by simply saying that it's better than a scene from "Game of Thrones".

Unrealistic, but interesting.
 
Gary said:
Republicans suck, it's been that way since Lincoln.

I remember supporting Goldwater and not Johnson in school and when I look back on it, I don't think Goldwater could have ever been as great a President as Johnson. History has never given Johnson what he deserves. He was always over-shadowed by the Kennedys. I didn't like him then.

I'm still conservative in many ways and religious, but I try to be reasonable. The conservatives of today have drifted to the point of anarchy. I believe in solutions, not creating problems.

tRump doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground, but he out to have enough sense to realize, the clown will support Bozo, no matter what he does and get on with what works. Since his mind changes all the time, it shouldn't be hard for him.
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LBJ was most likely the worst most evil President of all time.

Read some history and you will find that JFK had no intentions of having him as his VP in his second term.

Read some History and you will find that without the JFK assentation LBJ would have ended up in prison.

"I'll have those N***ers voting Democrat for the next 200 years". is the reason he signed the Civil Rights Amendment. Aside form Woodrow Wilson he was the most racist President in US History.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Interesting to see a totally unregulated and obsessively darwinian and predatory system being defended by simply saying that it's better than a scene from "Game of Thrones".

Unrealistic, but interesting.
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Oh, I love GOT. But I recognize it's a fantasy base on early European feudalistic society.

Socialism has killed over a hundred million people in the last one hundred years. Free Market Economies have ended more poverty than anything humans have ever created. Which is predatorily?
 
Casca XV said:
Oh, I love GOT. But I recognize it's a fantasy base on early European feudalistic society.

Socialism has killed over a hundred million people in the last one hundred years. Free Market Economies have ended more poverty than anything humans have ever created. Which is predatorily?
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The United States is never going to be a socialist economy so what is your point?
Oh wait, don't tell me...I think I already know:

OMG teh socialismz!!!!
OMG teh socialismz!!!!
OMG teh socialismz!!!!

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Casca XV said:
LBJ was most likely the worst most evil President of all time.

Read some history and you will find that JFK had no intentions of having him as his VP in his second term.

Read some History and you will find that without the JFK assentation LBJ would have ended up in prison.

"I'll have those N***ers voting Democrat for the next 200 years". is the reason he signed the Civil Rights Amendment. Aside form Woodrow Wilson he was the most racist President in US History.
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Read some history to someone born when Truman was President. You're as ignorant as your comments.

Btw, read a dictionary.
 
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Casca XV said:
"someone born when Truman was President" Please explain I'm honestly curious.
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Why the hell should I read history I lived?

Read about the year 2010, it's fascinating.
 
Gary said:
Republicans suck, it's been that way since Lincoln.

I remember supporting Goldwater and not Johnson in school and when I look back on it, I don't think Goldwater could have ever been as great a President as Johnson.
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Barry Goldwater was too much of a hothead back in 1964 but over the years he gradually became a much more reasonable person, without moderating his core principles, by the way. He remained a staunch conservative.

But he became much more open to negotiating and finding common ground as the years went by.
Goldwater '64? Maybe not. But Goldwater over Bush43? I mean, I'd have much rather had Gore but if we HAD to wind up with a Republican, Goldwater would have been a better Republican than Dubya.

Sometimes as a liberal it is difficult for me to agree with Goldwater on some issues but it is even more difficult to dislike him as a person, and it is impossible for me to discount his ability to lead.
Had 9/11 happened on his watch, I suspect things might have gone a lot differently.
 
enderpotato00 said:
Does capitalism need some regulation? Of course like any economic system. But too much regulation is bad.
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It's not about quantity at all, it's about the quality of the regulation.
It's about what that regulation is supposed to help accomplish.
 
Gary said:
Why the hell should I read history I lived?

Read about the year 2010, it's fascinating.
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If you live in the US over the last 50 year than you have lived on average in the best time and place in all history to be a human. Made possible by a free market economy, that even with a leftist caused recession was still great.


"2010" please explain. no link necessary.
 
James972 said:
conservatives are opposed to tariffs and so is Trump but he is using them to teach China that they are bad so they too will eliminate them. 1+1=2
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"I'm a tariff man."
- Donald Trump
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Barry Goldwater was too much of a hothead back in 1964 but over the years he gradually became a much more reasonable person, without moderating his core principles, by the way. He remained a staunch conservative.

But he became much more open to negotiating and finding common ground as the years went by.
Goldwater '64? Maybe not. But Goldwater over Bush43? I mean, I'd have much rather had Gore but if we HAD to wind up with a Republican, Goldwater would have been a better Republican than Dubya.

Sometimes as a liberal it is difficult for me to agree with Goldwater on some issues but it is even more difficult to dislike him as a person, and it is impossible for me to discount his ability to lead.
Had 9/11 happened on his watch, I suspect things might have gone a lot differently.
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That definitely was a dumb H-bomb gaff, but someone had to do it, before tRump could hog doing all the dumb things. Goldwater was also involved in Nixon's southern strategy and heavily supported state's rights. I'd have to check it, but I don't think he supported civil rights legislation. Johnson had the Senate in the palm of his hand and I didn't like him back then. He laid too many "My fellow Americans" on my childhood. The Vietnam War and the Kennedy shadow really screwed him up.
 
Casca XV said:
If you live in the US over the last 50 year than you have lived on average in the best time and place in all history to be a human. Made possible by a free market economy, that even with a leftist caused recession was still great.


"2010" please explain. no link necessary.
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2010 means read about the history when you were alive, too. It was easy to follow the news back in Johnson's times, they just reported it.

My guess is you brought up Wilson because of the federal reserve that Republicans started and later blamed on the Democrats. Wilson had a stroke towards the end of his Presidency and except for WWI involvement, it isn't like much was done back then.
 
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