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Why shouldn't capitalism be better regulated?

the government ain't gonna allow for there to be a percentage of fecal matter in my meat. Or sawdust in my parmesan, or....oh hell nah, wait a minute...
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you miss the point a few libcommie guys in Washington don't have the means to be your nanny much as you want that. Do you want an inspector in every meat plant every day? Do you want to pay for it?

Capitalism is the most vigilant protector. it features 330 million of us on duty 24/7/365. Let the govt make is believe they've got it covered instead and we're all dead! Freedom works but its too complicated for the liberal IQ to grasp.
 
objectivists and libertarians are very very similar which is of course why you presented no evidence that she hated them. She did hate communism. Notice that a conservative/libertarian is made to feel like a kindergarten teach when a liberal is around?

Then why do conservatives/libertarians continuously act like kindergarten students?
 
all of whom work for Amazon because it gave them better jobs than they had before

That's neither likely to be true, nor something you could even begin to prove. On the other hand, it's pretty easy to disprove, because Bernie Sanders literally had to go and organize people to protest for better wages at Amazon.
 
That's neither likely to be true, nor something you could even begin to prove.

dear, please remember you are a liberal. Obviously they they took the jobs because they were better than an other being offered to them in the world. If its not true then they took the jobs at Amazon even when better jobs were offered to them at other companies????? See why we say liberalism is based in pure ignorance?
 
Then why do conservatives/libertarians continuously act like kindergarten students?

of course if they did the liberal would not be so afraid to present his best example. What does the liberal learn from his fear and from walking into the same swinging door over and over???
 
Face your FEAR Bullseye....James972 says you must!! Lest you demonstrate you are a liberal...DO IT!!!

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I am a liberal - a classic liberal; I believe in low taxes, free markets, individual freedom and responsibility and minimal government and regulation. James just got a little confused. :coo:
 
This thread so far is interesting.
 
We have FIRE regulations for a reason, yes?
Fire can be a useful tool, because it can warm your home, forge your steel and iron, cook your food, etc.
It can also burn down entire towns if left unchecked.

Capitalism is a lot like FIRE. Left unregulated and unchecked, it can become predatory and very damaging, and it can unearth some pretty awful unintended consequences. And yet when properly harnessed, capitalism can lift entire generations out of poverty, stimulate innovation and launch entirely new industries. Capitalism has demonstrated the capability to serve as a useful and rewarding tool to serve the middle class if it operates under the right kind of regulation.

So this thread is an effort to explore suggestions and ideas on how to properly regulate capitalism to do just that.

Capitalism needs a bottoms up and not a top down approach. As far as regulations go, need is required. Sometimes what's cheapest isn't the best, so making the best assessment of all things considered is important. I think it's possible for the government to properly regulate industries in ways like a tax to not produce in certain countries. Call it a fine tax, if you want, but it could be used to tell a company to get out or suffer severe consequences, they will move to avoid. You can do so in a reasonable time period. The government could also tax the piss out of a foreign company and get compliance. Tariffs are a bad idea. Such policies would make good trade deals.
 
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Capitalism needs a bottoms up and not a top down approach. As far as regulations go, need is required. Sometimes what's cheapest isn't the best, so making the best assessment of all things considered is important. I think it's possible for the government to properly regulate industries in ways like a tax to not produce in certain countries. Call it a fine tax, if you want, but it could be used to tell a company to get out or suffer severe consequences, they will move to avoid. You can do so in a reasonable time period.

Well you can also reward companies for good citizenship instead of the stick, more carrots :)
But yes, bottom up approach or it isn't democratic, it isn't egalitarian, it isn't user friendly, it doesn't "taste good" for the majority.
If people want to sell capitalism then they have to accept that there may be competition to their model of it.
If they're so confident that their model is better, then they should not fear competing models.
Instead they're trying to couch it in terms of a threat, and that's crossing the line.
Capitalism is a system but it's also a product, because people have to believe in it in order for it to work.

In order to SELL capitalism, the salesmen are going to have to once again go back to the time tested and workable idea of sweetening the deal, a "new deal", where capitalism is a tool to serve working class, blue collar, middle class white collar working families first.

In 1932 Will Rogers, the celebrated cowboy poet and humorist, said this about trickle down, and it is still relevant today:

"This election was lost four and six years ago, not this year. They [Republicans] didn’t start thinking of the old common fellow till just as they started out on the election tour.
The money was all appropriated for the top in the hopes that it would trickle down to the needy.
Mr. Hoover was an engineer. He knew that water trickles down. Put it uphill and let it go and it will reach the driest little spot. But he didn’t know that money trickled up.
Give it to the people at the bottom and the people at the top will have it before night, anyhow.
But it will at least have passed through the poor fellows hands.
They saved the big banks, but the little ones went up the flue."

What followed was thirteen years of Roosevelt and the New Deal.
But the Republicans didn't even wait two years to try and violently overthrow Mister Roosevelt.

And yet WE are the ones being cast as the violent thugs.
PROJECTION, pure Alinskyite projection.
The Trump Right has been cribbing off Alinsky's notes for ten years now. (starting with the Tea Party)
They think we're not hip to it.
Thing is, about Alinsky, his stuff was for minority groups which are seeking to take power from the LARGE groups, and his writings offer NOTHING about HOW TO LEAD once you HAVE taken power.

The reason that the Left shelved the Alinsky book fifty years ago is because we took power back then and then we had to sit down and think about how to lead and govern, which required other books and advice instead of Alinsky's.

Trump Republicans snatched up that book and despite winning the trifecta, they kept using that book anyway even once in power.
And that is partly why they lost so big in November 2018 and it's definitely why they're going to lose bigger in 2020.
They don't know when to put down the attack propaganda book.
For the Left it was like assembly instructions.
For Trump Republicans, it's like CRACK COCAINE.
They get a high or a buzz from pissing off normal people who happen to disagree with them.
 
Republicans suck, it's been that way since Lincoln.

I remember supporting Goldwater and not Johnson in school and when I look back on it, I don't think Goldwater could have ever been as great a President as Johnson. History has never given Johnson what he deserves. He was always over-shadowed by the Kennedys. I didn't like him then.

I'm still conservative in many ways and religious, but I try to be reasonable. The conservatives of today have drifted to the point of anarchy. I believe in solutions, not creating problems.

tRump doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground, but he out to have enough sense to realize, the clown will support Bozo, no matter what he does and get on with what works. Since his mind changes all the time, it shouldn't be hard for him.
 
Does capitalism need some regulation? Of course like any economic system. But too much regulation is bad.
 
So just out of curiosity, what might some figures be on a cap for funds? Anybody? Dem or Rep

I say zero cap
 
Child Labor was ended by pressure from people who today would be called "The Religious Right" Henry Ford created the 40 hour work week and he hated the Left.

Irrelevant. We can argue about who did it. Whoever it was, it wasn't the free market.
 
Irrelevant. We can argue about who did it. Whoever it was, it wasn't the free market.

obviously it was the free market!! Before the free market made us all rich children worked 24/7/365!! 1+1=2. Are you are conservative now?
 
Does capitalism need some regulation? Of course like any economic system. But too much regulation is bad.

yes after Great Depression and 2008 housing collapse it is very obvious that where govt in heavily involved you have a disaster just like HItler Stalin Mao. This is why our founders were for freedom from govt regulation.
 
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