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    Re: Ex White House Counsel Don McGahn

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    The House doesn't want information from him regarding his affairs as a private citizen, they want information on what he did as an executive branch employee, including deliberations and being the legal representative for the White House, 2 instances of privilege may exist---client/lawyer and executive privilege.

    Your argument is simple minded at best.
    Your response is simply wrong, at best: first, attorney-client does not apply (he's White House counsel, not Trump's attorney); second, both attorney-client, had it applied, and executive privilege have already been waived. Once waived, they cannot be reasserted.
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    Re: Ex White House Counsel Don McGahn

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    The House doesn't want information from him regarding his affairs as a private citizen, they want information on what he did as an executive branch employee, including deliberations and being the legal representative for the White House, 2 instances of privilege may exist---client/lawyer and executive privilege.
    Does executive privilege make the executive branch immune to congressional scrutiny?
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    Re: Ex White House Counsel Don McGahn

    Quote Originally Posted by Rexedgar View Post
    What authority does the White House have over Don McGahn? What power do they have to coerce McGahn to ignore a subpoena? McGahn is a private citizen, right?
    McGhan testified to Mueller for 30 hours. If he had something negative to say about Trump outside of whats already in the report, dont you think Mueller would have put it in there?
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    Re: Ex White House Counsel Don McGahn

    Quote Originally Posted by Rexedgar View Post
    What authority does the White House have over Don McGahn? What power do they have to coerce McGahn to ignore a subpoena? McGahn is a private citizen, right?
    He may be under post employment restrictions, which he would have been informed of and for which there will be documentation.

    when I retired from a federal regulatory agency, I was briefed on my post employment restrictions, having to do with constraints against my representing a private business before the agency for about 2 years, I guess to prevent the “revolving door” phenomenon.
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    Re: Ex White House Counsel Don McGahn

    Quote Originally Posted by uptower View Post
    Does executive privilege make the executive branch immune to congressional scrutiny?
    The definition of executive privilege is rooted in deliberations and advice given by associates to the President. Especially when it is the WH counsel who is offering legal advice. Please show me where I argued executive privilege makes the Executive immune to Congressional scrutiny?

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    Re: Ex White House Counsel Don McGahn

    Quote Originally Posted by NWRatCon View Post
    Your response is simply wrong, at best: first, attorney-client does not apply (he's White House counsel, not Trump's attorney); second, both attorney-client, had it applied, and executive privilege have already been waived. Once waived, they cannot be reasserted.
    /derp

    White House counsel offers legal advice on executive branch decisions. Waiving privilege in one matter doesn't waive it in all matters.

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    Re: Ex White House Counsel Don McGahn

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    /derp

    White House counsel offers legal advice on executive branch decisions. Waiving privilege in one matter doesn't waive it in all matters.
    Sorry YOU had a derp moment there.

    While it is true that waiver on one matter doesn't waive all matters, it applies to the issues that are covered by previous discussions. That's really not the issue here, is it? This is a blanket denial of access. Nothing justifies that, does it?
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    Re: Ex White House Counsel Don McGahn

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    The House doesn't want information from him regarding his affairs as a private citizen, they want information on what he did as an executive branch employee, including deliberations and being the legal representative for the White House, 2 instances of privilege may exist---client/lawyer and executive privilege. Your argument is simple minded at best.
    Course might be a bit of locking the barn door after the horse got out... he did extensive interviews with Mueller without any invoking executive privilege. Team tRump is worried about the video tape for the upcoming election. What was said to Mueller will be exposed- HOW it is exposed is the worry now...

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    Re: Ex White House Counsel Don McGahn

    Quote Originally Posted by NWRatCon View Post
    Sorry YOU had a derp moment there.

    While it is true that waiver on one matter doesn't waive all matters, it applies to the issues that are covered by previous discussions. That's really not the issue here, is it? This is a blanket denial of access. Nothing justifies that, does it?
    For one thing, Trump didn't waive Executive privilege in all things.
    You could say he waived it when he didn't demand an early look at the Mueller Report.
    He allowed McGahn to be interviewed by Mueller but Mueller was part of the Executive Branch. Neither Laurel nor Hardy are.

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    Re: Ex White House Counsel Don McGahn

    Quote Originally Posted by Rexedgar View Post
    What authority does the White House have over Don McGahn? What power do they have to coerce McGahn to ignore a subpoena? McGahn is a private citizen, right?
    Trump was very transparent to the Mueller investigation. He did not use Executive privilege, once, even though, by law, he had this right. He had to right to fire Mueller and put someone else in. Trump knew he was innocent, so he let the rigged process reach a conclusion without using Executive privilege.

    The collusion delusion should now be done, since he did everything the Democrats asked, including not using his Constitutional power. But since the Democrats are not showing any good faith, in the conclusions of their own stacked investigation, there is no need to be a nice guy, anymore. Being nice and cooperative does not matter to the angry two-faced Democrats.

    Trump is starting to play hardball, using his Constitutional right to exert Executive privilege. He does not have to jump hoops for angry Democrats and fake news. Nothing will satisfy them, other than him resigning. Trump has gotten sick of being a guy nice, to dumb angry people. Now it is time to go on the offensive, and dope slap them. This change of strategy, is part of a larger offense, that will begin by show the roar of the Democrats, is nothing but fake power coming from a corrupt paper tiger.

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