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Did LDS all vote Trump?

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PoisonIvy503

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Hi,
I'm a Christian who legit went undercover by myself when I was bored, out of pure curiousity and entertainment to see firsthand what the Ladder Day Saints of Jesus Christ Mormon's do which is so differently compared to Christianity. However, that's an off-topic story for never to be told, as that ****'s deep. When in there they vote all 1 thing when presented with a choice for the church of Mormons to decide on.
My assumption is they went Hilary Clinton is a no-go with how she ain't as white as Donald, or a dude. LDS are racist as their bible is filled with lawyer scripted codes of colour hating.
#1. How do individual groups get all their followers to vote for same person and this be fair as this is a prime demonstration of Government & Separation of Powers is it not?
#2. Has religion gone too far? [And even I as a Christian am wondering on the] #3. Abolishment of religion to create a humanitarian focused society?


Luke :peace
 
PoisonIvy503 said:
Hi,
I'm a Christian who legit went undercover by myself when I was bored, out of pure curiousity and entertainment to see firsthand what the Ladder Day Saints of Jesus Christ Mormon's do which is so differently compared to Christianity. However, that's an off-topic story for never to be told, as that ****'s deep. When in there they vote all 1 thing when presented with a choice for the church of Mormons to decide on.
My assumption is they went Hilary Clinton is a no-go with how she ain't as white as Donald, or a dude. LDS are racist as their bible is filled with lawyer scripted codes of colour hating.
#1. How do individual groups get all their followers to vote for same person and this be fair as this is a prime demonstration of Government & Separation of Powers is it not?
#2. Has religion gone too far? [And even I as a Christian am wondering on the] #3. Abolishment of religion to create a humanitarian focused society?


Luke :peace
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1. I doubt you can say of any group comprised of a million-plus people, that ALL voted for any particular person.

2. Religion isn't a monolithic thing; you can't ask "has religion gone too far" without asking what religion are you talking about and where... ISIS version of islam is surely gone too far, but your average little community church mostly tells people be good to each other and tries to help people when they're having problems.

3. You couldn't abolish religion without first establishing a totalitarian police state; sound good to you? Maybe not....
 
PoisonIvy503 said:
Hi,
I'm a Christian who legit went undercover by myself when I was bored, out of pure curiousity and entertainment to see firsthand what the Ladder Day Saints of Jesus Christ Mormon's do which is so differently compared to Christianity. However, that's an off-topic story for never to be told, as that ****'s deep. When in there they vote all 1 thing when presented with a choice for the church of Mormons to decide on.
My assumption is they went Hilary Clinton is a no-go with how she ain't as white as Donald, or a dude. LDS are racist as their bible is filled with lawyer scripted codes of colour hating.
#1. How do individual groups get all their followers to vote for same person and this be fair as this is a prime demonstration of Government & Separation of Powers is it not?
#2. Has religion gone too far? [And even I as a Christian am wondering on the] #3. Abolishment of religion to create a humanitarian focused society?


Luke :peace
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I grew up in a little mountain town in Colorado near the Utah border that was mostly Mormon, so my friends were Mormon and I was invited to a lot of their church functions, confirmations, etc. LDS is slightly different from mainstream Christianity -- but they are still Christians.

As far as voting -- they don't all vote for the same candidates.

While I'm an atheist, I think Mormons are probably better (humans) than most other religions -- they're always helpful to strangers, they're pretty non-judgemental. There was that Mountain Meadows things a century or so ago but, for the most part, they're good people. I keep in touch with a number of childhood friends and they're all good citizens - would give you the shirt off their back, but they have different political views.

Mormons do some odd things - but then, all religion is odd, isn't it?
 
PoisonIvy503 said:
#1. How do individual groups get all their followers to vote for same person and this be fair as this is a prime demonstration of Government & Separation of Powers is it not?
#2. Has religion gone too far? [And even I as a Christian am wondering on the]
#3. Abolishment of religion to create a humanitarian focused society?

Luke :peace
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#1. There are plenty of groups who directly or indirectly suggest who to support politically, the Church making a suggestion based on their brand of social conservatism is not in itself a Constitutional problem.
#2. It is way too generic to say that religion has gone to far, but there are plenty of examples of certain groups taking religion too far. However, the only time the government should step in is when one group uses their rights as a weapon over someone else's rights.
#3. To abolish religion would take a level of governmental power and authoritarianism unseen in these modern times, that would be entirely unconstitutional.

You want a humanitarian focused society? Then push for humanities to be taught more.
 
PoisonIvy503 said:
Hi,
I'm a Christian who legit went undercover by myself when I was bored, out of pure curiousity and entertainment to see firsthand what the Ladder Day Saints of Jesus Christ Mormon's do which is so differently compared to Christianity. However, that's an off-topic story for never to be told, as that ****'s deep. When in there they vote all 1 thing when presented with a choice for the church of Mormons to decide on.
My assumption is they went Hilary Clinton is a no-go with how she ain't as white as Donald, or a dude. LDS are racist as their bible is filled with lawyer scripted codes of colour hating.
#1. How do individual groups get all their followers to vote for same person and this be fair as this is a prime demonstration of Government & Separation of Powers is it not?
#2. Has religion gone too far? [And even I as a Christian am wondering on the] #3. Abolishment of religion to create a humanitarian focused society?


Luke :peace
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Your UC work, or a brief Google search, should have discovered that the L in LDS is not "ladder". Voting on matters within the church has no bearing on government just as voting on matters within our private bowling club has no bearing on government.

#1. Separation of powers refers to the 3 branches of the federal government (executive, legislative and judicial) not what groups of private citizens decide to discuss or their free exercise of religion.

#2. No, at least from what you have asserted.

#3. Read the constituion carefully (hint: see the first amendment) and you wil discover not only no power to abolish religion but a specific prohibition to do so. Tolerance of differences of opinion is important within a society of free people.
 
PoisonIvy503 said:
Hi,
I'm a Christian who legit went undercover by myself when I was bored, out of pure curiousity and entertainment to see firsthand what the Ladder Day Saints of Jesus Christ Mormon's do which is so differently compared to Christianity. However, that's an off-topic story for never to be told, as that ****'s deep. When in there they vote all 1 thing when presented with a choice for the church of Mormons to decide on.
My assumption is they went Hilary Clinton is a no-go with how she ain't as white as Donald, or a dude. LDS are racist as their bible is filled with lawyer scripted codes of color hating.
#1. How do individual groups get all their followers to vote for same person and this be fair as this is a prime demonstration of Government & Separation of Powers is it not?
#2. Has religion gone too far? [And even I as a Christian am wondering on the] #3. Abolishment of religion to create a humanitarian focused society?


Luke :peace
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The Mormons are not doing anything different from the Jews. Both groups seek a type of racial purity and both are restricted clubs. Gentiles are not allowed the same access in either club. The Jews, like Mormons, consider themselves chosen people. Both believe they received their chosen status from an inspiration by God, but each in a different time. Both set exclusions and restrictions in term of who can enter the club as well as the acceptable behaviors; foods and festivals. This is not a value judgement, on my part. This is the way of timeless global traditions. I am all for preservation of historical artifacts, both physical and psychological, since both resonate with people for centuries.

The left is full of dual standards, where what is bad for one group, is OK for another, if that another is pro-Democrat. The Jews tend to finance Democrats, as a rule, so they get a pass for the same thing as the Mormons. Both need to get a pass. If we had one set of rules for all, then we can end the hypocrisy and allow all people to choose what they wish do; freedom of expression. The problem is you can never optimize everyone in one group think. It is more practical to optimize many bite size potions of humanity, with a common human center, while wearing different clothes.

You may not like the Mormons, but they have a system that works for its group. Family and tradition comes first. To reinforce a group vision, one needs to set a contrast as to what is the opposite; under the law. The problem with the left is they are full of selfish sub-groups, which cannot seem to optimize into a larger scale, beyond their common drive of give-me. This is in spite of dual standards designed to create a handicap for everyone else not willing to feed their flock. This based on parasite dynamics. Mormons like the Jews are hosts with hosts needing to self optimize first.
 
PoisonIvy503 said:
Hi,
I'm a Christian who legit went undercover by myself when I was bored, out of pure curiousity and entertainment to see firsthand what the Ladder Day Saints of Jesus Christ Mormon's do which is so differently compared to Christianity. However, that's an off-topic story for never to be told, as that ****'s deep. When in there they vote all 1 thing when presented with a choice for the church of Mormons to decide on.
My assumption is they went Hilary Clinton is a no-go with how she ain't as white as Donald, or a dude. LDS are racist as their bible is filled with lawyer scripted codes of colour hating.
#1. How do individual groups get all their followers to vote for same person and this be fair as this is a prime demonstration of Government & Separation of Powers is it not?
#2. Has religion gone too far? [And even I as a Christian am wondering on the] #3. Abolishment of religion to create a humanitarian focused society?


Luke :peace
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To best answer your question, let's look at Utah. About a Mormon a state can be. Their results were Trump 45.5%, Clinton 27.5%, McMullen 22% with the rest split between other third party candidates. According to the CNN exit poll in Utah, Trump did receive 70% of the very active Mormon vote, whatever very active means.

- Utah Colleges Exit Poll

Here's another tid bit from that poll.

"About half of Trump voters in Utah said they were casting their ballot mostly "against" another candidate rather than “for” Trump.

Clinton inspired slightly more enthusiasm among voters than Trump, with 70 percent of her voters saying they cast the ballot “for” her rather than “against” another candidate.

"The Trump people were voting against Clinton," Magleby said. "If they had had a different option (than Clinton), they might have gone Democratic."

Utah going Democratic? Perhaps it might have with a different Democratic candidate.

About half of Trump's votes were anti-Clinton votes and not necessarily for him. Utah matches the nation in this. Nationwide 50% of the 46% who voted for Trump voted against or were anti-Clinton votes. Any Tom, Dick or Harry would have done. If you just counted the votes that were for Trump, that wanted Trump as president, that was 23%.

As for religion, it has its place. The fact that the Democratic Party is seen as the anti-religion party, the political party trying destroy religion is what cause a lot of Christians and other religious folks to vote Republican. Not that they like or even approve of the Republican Party. It's just the Republican Party isn't going after their religion.
 
Hi again,
Yeah I very well know 2 t's, instead of d's, I choose to mis-pel for artisticness.
#1, main thing in vastness of religions is putting God before Family and Traditions ALWehYs and this is my axeshual only problem with religion is with how God is always before Family and other stuff. This iz sins how this scares me as one who has God before Family is unpredictable at best. Y is God before the Family and Traditions is in all actuality a very understandable moral in religious beliefs as this makes sense in KOrelation to spiritual ordinances one chooses to obey in believing in a typical religion.
#2, My bad for not fully Hexplaining-
1. Religion has extra rights to do with Govy powa which should be torn apart
2. God should be made ignored-
As I view the bible as more of a Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy;
We are slowly come eeng to very new technologies. Maybe we need to adapt our worldly collaboration in order to discover what's out there in science 1st as consciousness transference is becoming a possibility amongst other newer things coming to light.... and this will greatly impact our choice in direction of advancement as 1, and as Spock says, "THE NEEDS OF THE MANY OUTWAY THE NEEDS OF THE FEW."
3. It stops people from being more accepting of one another which is something we as humanity could really use right now
4. Honestly, I'm a whatcha calla Karl's Marxwellism believer. Sooooo, do it yo' police controlled state by friendly Ai go a long weigh to stop all these differential ****ty beliefs as they turn judgements to hatred.
5. I will very well only respond to one who has seen Sausage party as this movie ends with how religion does separate US from being united. They really doo-doo. Turns out religion was something from non-perishable food to make perishable food believe that people were taking them to heaven when in all reality they were going to be soul sucked for calories.
We don't know what we don't know and there's **** hi up there which we need to know to understand what we do not know
6. Religion sux! We as peeps on the 3rd rock from the sun should all hold hands and eat hashbrownies in 37 days while singing Avicii -Geel Food

F u all on Debate Politics except Goshin, because there's no positivity coming towards me on here, with how nobuddies really being nice or friendly and I'm flabbergasted, just neutrality which is fine for I'm cool with that, predickable behaviour of most USA citizens
 
"ladder day saints"? "I choose to mis-pel for artisticness."

New poster has lost any future credibility.
 
Yo BeefHeart,
Just sayin' u said, "ANY" future credibility, and I'm pointing out that, you're wrong. This has the credibility of uh u know, lost credibility bi-u and I'm saying u took the time saying this has lost credibility. This means my post has "lost credibility," which is still a credit from you in the regards of being any credibility. No future credibility is questionable coming from you whose introduction to me fist time ever is stating my credibility is questionable. What do u have?
Correct spelling?
i have a point that does madder
U r a trolling BeefHeart
 
And yeah words are misspelled on posters for expressing views by higher credibility than you'll ever have, and how u fixate on spelling is beefdickulous.
 
PoisonIvy503 said:
Yo BeefHeart,
Just sayin' u said, "ANY" future credibility, and I'm pointing out that, you're wrong. This has the credibility of uh u know, lost credibility bi-u and I'm saying u took the time saying this has lost credibility. This means my post has "lost credibility," which is still a credit from you in the regards of being any credibility. No future credibility is questionable coming from you whose introduction to me fist time ever is stating my credibility is questionable. What do u have?
Correct spelling?
i have a point that does madder
U r a trolling BeefHeart
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You just managed to lose more credibility.

How is Voronezh these days?
 
PoisonIvy503 said:
Hi,
I'm a Christian who legit went undercover by myself when I was bored, out of pure curiousity and entertainment to see firsthand what the Ladder Day Saints of Jesus Christ Mormon's do which is so differently compared to Christianity. However, that's an off-topic story for never to be told, as that ****'s deep. When in there they vote all 1 thing when presented with a choice for the church of Mormons to decide on.
My assumption is they went Hilary Clinton is a no-go with how she ain't as white as Donald, or a dude. LDS are racist as their bible is filled with lawyer scripted codes of colour hating.
#1. How do individual groups get all their followers to vote for same person and this be fair as this is a prime demonstration of Government & Separation of Powers is it not?
#2. Has religion gone too far? [And even I as a Christian am wondering on the] #3. Abolishment of religion to create a humanitarian focused society?


Luke :peace
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So, what brand of Christian are you?
 
LDS in Utah vote as a block...and always have.
 
PoisonIvy503 said:
Hi again,
Yeah I very well know 2 t's, instead of d's, I choose to mis-pel for artisticness.
#1, main thing in vastness of religions is putting God before Family and Traditions ALWehYs and this is my axeshual only problem with religion is with how God is always before Family and other stuff. This iz sins how this scares me as one who has God before Family is unpredictable at best. Y is God before the Family and Traditions is in all actuality a very understandable moral in religious beliefs as this makes sense in KOrelation to spiritual ordinances one chooses to obey in believing in a typical religion.
#2, My bad for not fully Hexplaining-
1. Religion has extra rights to do with Govy powa which should be torn apart
2. God should be made ignored-
As I view the bible as more of a Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy;
We are slowly come eeng to very new technologies. Maybe we need to adapt our worldly collaboration in order to discover what's out there in science 1st as consciousness transference is becoming a possibility amongst other newer things coming to light.... and this will greatly impact our choice in direction of advancement as 1, and as Spock says, "THE NEEDS OF THE MANY OUTWAY THE NEEDS OF THE FEW."
3. It stops people from being more accepting of one another which is something we as humanity could really use right now
4. Honestly, I'm a whatcha calla Karl's Marxwellism believer. Sooooo, do it yo' police controlled state by friendly Ai go a long weigh to stop all these differential ****ty beliefs as they turn judgements to hatred.
5. I will very well only respond to one who has seen Sausage party as this movie ends with how religion does separate US from being united. They really doo-doo. Turns out religion was something from non-perishable food to make perishable food believe that people were taking them to heaven when in all reality they were going to be soul sucked for calories.
We don't know what we don't know and there's **** hi up there which we need to know to understand what we do not know
6. Religion sux! We as peeps on the 3rd rock from the sun should all hold hands and eat hashbrownies in 37 days while singing Avicii -Geel Food

F u all on Debate Politics except Goshin, because there's no positivity coming towards me on here, with how nobuddies really being nice or friendly and I'm flabbergasted, just neutrality which is fine for I'm cool with that, predickable behaviour of most USA citizens
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Read this. Try posting it again sober.
 
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