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    Re: The Federalist Papers by ‘Publius’ (1788)

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    you me to look up your thoughts?
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    Re: The Federalist Papers by ‘Publius’ (1788)

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    Re: The Federalist Papers by ‘Publius’ (1788)

    Lafayette: you should take a gander at the rough draft of the 1787 Constitution. There was no electoral college, the president was elected by Congress for a single, 7 year term (never re-eligible). The reason for electoral college is that 1) there was no way to run a nationwide-popular vote in 1789 with the lack of communication and infrastructure at the time; 2) the problems presented by Congress electing the President, particularly that he wouldn't be "independent" enough from them to do his job.

    Also, it's really only 3 times that the EC vote has been the opposite of the Popular vote. 1888, 2000, 2016. 1824 and 1876 don't really count. In 1824, many of the electors (1/3 of them actually) were appointed by state legislatures, not popularly-elected, so there's really no telling how the people of those states would have voted themselves. (This includes the 36 electors from New York, all appointed by the New York legislature, not by the voters). Also in 1876, an electoral commission of 15 members decided the election, not the EC directly (they were appointed to count the votes, and one of them was bribed by a southerner who wanted to end Reconstruction).

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    Re: The Federalist Papers by ‘Publius’ (1788)

    I picked up a copy of the Federalist Papers at B&N. I was reading the forward. The limitations of the series is that it's a work of propaganda: designed to convince New Yorkers to vote friends of the constitution in the ratifying convention. But it had more of an effect on our retrospective views of the constitution than on the ratification thereof at the time.

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