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    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Who cares if Trump can swim, it's the establishment alligators that's gonna chew him up. It'll be a slow agonizing decent into shame and failure over the next 3.5 years OR hopefully much less. It'll be a bloody mess, but a warning to all future narcissistic, megalomaniac, pathological liars who consider running for president.
    I think that people who voted for Hillary removed their minds beforehand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lafayette View Post
    Permit me to link you to the definition of the word that characterizes perfectly your above remark - ad hominem.

    Accusing the opposite side of the political-divide in America of being "embarrassments" is just sniping sarcasm. If you want, otoh, to make a cogent accusation that is debatable then go dig for it and write it up here.

    The US has the highest Income Disparity of any developed nation - meaning it is "unjust and unfair" in its distribution of income. And that does not mean that everybody should be earning the same salary.

    Incomes should show progressivity in order to be equitable - but Reckless Ronnie destroyed fairness when he changed Upper-income Taxation during his tenure. To please his many rich friends who supplied him the money to run for office ...
    I'm not appealing to anyone's emotions and, insofar as prejudices are concerned, the one I have is one every American should have:

    If you don't believe in the Constitution, someone ought to show you the way to the door leaving this country. I can point to Republicans that are embarrassments, but most Republicans claim they believe in the Constitution.

    The real reasons that there exists a disparity in income is due to the simple fact that we have too many rules and regulations. We have too many taxes. We have a nation of lazy arse people in their 20s, 30s, 40s and beyond that are content to live in mommy's house playing computer games and wasting all their money on video games, tattoos, drugs and booze.

    We have become a nation that puts roadblocks up to discourage people from becoming entrepreneurs. One in 5 Americans gets some kind of government assistance. People are finding it more desirable to be a dependent class instead of an independent class. We had rather keep extensive records on people to lock them out of the American dream than to end the welfare state and put America back to work. Somehow it has become beneath the younger generations to start out at the bottom, working for less but building yourself up. Too many people start at the bottom and never decide to sacrifice in order to better their position so that can live better each year, incrementally.

    It's not unusual to see guys who have been delivering pizza, working in fast food / coffee shops, or other entry level jobs for over ten years and having less buying power than they did a decade or more ago. The idea that you take from the haves and give to those who don't want to work hard and sacrifice is NOT a recipe for success.

    America became the most financially solvent nation in the annals of history. There was a time when the world relied on us to fight the wars, send in the missionaries, and rebuild those nation destroyed by war. Today we lead the world in the number of people in prisons, the number of obese people and the highest number of divorced people in the world. This is not the fault of the rich. It's the fault of the phony war between Ds and Rs that has about as much sincerity as a WWE wrestling match. BOTH sides are taking us down the road to socialism - be it the POLICE STATE of the right or the Nanny State of the left. They need each other and their plans only go so far before the other side picks up the slack. On eight out of every ten issues, both parties are going the same direction with the Constitution being little more than toilet paper for either party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Resister View Post
    The real reasons that there exists a disparity in income is due to the simple fact that we have too many rules and regulations. We have too many taxes. We have a nation of lazy arse people in their 20s, 30s, 40s and beyond that are content to live in mommy's house playing computer games and wasting all their money on video games, tattoos, drugs and booze.
    No, you are dead wrong, and the above shows your ignorance of the factual evidence.

    Progressivity of incomes (or the lack of it) has long been shown in what is called the Gini Index (which is one of several means to measure Income Disparity).

    Here is the Gini Index inofgraphic for most of the modern world:


    Note that the US has the same value as China. Now, that fact should raise eyebrows in the US. But it doesn't. And why not?

    Because too many are just not aware of what Income Disparity means or even that it exists. And, the Rabid-Right Replicants want no change in the Status Quo. Why? Because, as a party, their Money Pot is funded by the rich and the wannabee-rich who disregard the plight of their fellow Americans.

    In fact, PotUS Donald Dork wants to lower upper-income tax-rates even further!

    Go figure ... or go East. I did, and I now live in the EU that has a far more broad distribution of Income for the betterment of its people. Btw, we also have far less people in jail (one tenth the jail population of the US) - because one of the prime motors of crime anywhere in the world is the inability to "keep up with the Joneses" ...
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    Re: Constitutional Rights -

    Quote Originally Posted by Lafayette View Post
    False! See here from "FactCheck.org": Trump's Fanciful Iran Negotiation - excerpt:

    Trump lied his way into the presidency, and an Electoral College defied the Popular-Vote and allowed a defeated candidate to win. Hillary was defeated in the Electoral College* and yet won the popular vote by one of the highest margins in history of presidential elections!

    Seven months into his tenure and the country is sick, sick, sick of Donald Dork's antics. Moreover, this guy is going to lose the Right both houses of Congress next year. Mark my words ...

    *The Electoral College is and always has been a sham democratic election process. It is disproportional and highly manipulable. Uncle Sam would do better to rid himself of this dangerous handicap to a pluralistic democracy ...
    The Electoral College defied nothing. It conformed to each states popular vote with only 2 individual rogue exceptions. The total popular vote margin was 20th out of the 58 elections. You exaggeration is Trumpian. Uncle Sam doesn't have the power to change the Electoral College, your blind ignorance appears to be complete--until your reply.
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    Re: Constitutional Rights -

    Quote Originally Posted by Lafayette View Post
    No, you are dead wrong, and the above shows your ignorance of the factual evidence.

    Progressivity of incomes (or the lack of it) has long been shown in what is called the Gini Index (which is one of several means to measure Income Disparity).

    Here is the Gini Index inofgraphic for most of the modern world:


    Note that the US has the same value as China. Now, that fact should raise eyebrows in the US. But it doesn't. And why not?

    Because too many are just not aware of what Income Disparity means or even that it exists. And, the Rabid-Right Replicants want no change in the Status Quo. Why? Because, as a party, their Money Pot is funded by the rich and the wannabee-rich who disregard the plight of their fellow Americans.

    In fact, PotUS Donald Dork wants to lower upper-income tax-rates even further!

    Go figure ... or go East. I did, and I now live in the EU that has a far more broad distribution of Income for the betterment of its people. Btw, we also have far less people in jail (one tenth the jail population of the US) - because one of the prime motors of crime anywhere in the world is the inability to "keep up with the Joneses" ...
    So, the rest of the world is ignorant just because they disagree with your views? I would say this:

    China has been instituting free market principles and trying to hold onto socialism. But, they realize that the free market is the key to their growth:

    https://www.cato.org/policy-report/j...ame-capitalist

    Meanwhile, as China seeks to incorporate free market principles, America has become more and more socialist, discarding the free market ideology and paying a heavy price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indian Giver View Post
    I think that people who voted for Hillary removed their minds beforehand.
    I think that the 2016 presidential candidates were possibly the worst in American History. Literally the bottom feeders of the political pool.

    The question people should be asking themselves is how the hell did Hillary Clinton an Donald Trump wind up with the nominations?

    So many Trump supporters claim that they voted for Trump based on what they believed to be his fundamental qualifications and merits to be president. I call, BULL****! They voted against Hillary. A mentally challenged person should have known Trump's reputation as an unscrupulous, narcissistic, megalomaniac who only lives in Trump World. Everybody else are his serfs.

    Hillary carries her own nasty, unscrupulous luggage. The Clinton's want people to believe that they've "earned" their power and wealth when the truth is that they, via every means possible, have manipulated their way into the world of the privileged. But make no mistake into believing otherwise, so many voters who voted for Hillary was a vote against Trump.

    One of the core problems in our system of selecting candidates is....

    Only 14 to 16% of the voters are selecting the candidates during the primaries. The candidate vetting process isn't disseminated to the public. The political machines (strongly influenced by the lobby communities) try to get candidates on the ballots so it's a win for them regardless of who makes the primary cuts.

    Would you vote for Steve Bannon or Anthony Scaramucci for president?

    Would you vote for George Soros or Maxine Waters for president?

    If the nominees were Bannon and Soros who would you vote for?

    Why would these folks wind up in the primaries, much less be nominees?
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    Re: Constitutional Rights -

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post

    Would you vote for Steve Bannon or Anthony Scaramucci for president?
    Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Would you vote for George Soros or Maxine Waters for president?
    I would not vote for Waters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post

    If the nominees were Bannon and Soros who would you vote for?
    Bannon. Soros is not a natural born citizen and is thus ineligible, like Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indian Giver View Post
    Why not?

    I would not vote for Waters.

    Bannon. Soros is not a natural born citizen and is thus ineligible, like Obama.
    Awwwwwh, Bummer!

    You would actually vote for Anthony? Seriously?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Awwwwwh, Bummer!

    You would actually vote for Anthony? Seriously?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRUbwnkEPqc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indian Giver View Post
    This video is your reply?
    “The final key to the way I promote is bravado,” Donald Trump wrote in his 1987 book, “The Art of the Deal.” “I play to people’s fantasies.”

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