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Again for all the masks Nazis. One more quote from a different World Health Organization link:

Given that infected people without symptoms can transmit the virus, it is also prudent to encourage the use of fabric face masks in public places where there is community transmission[1] and where other prevention measures, such as physical distancing, are not possible.



Notice the “and” there. Yes folks, if social distance is possible, then there is no recommendation for masks.

You guys are acting crazy over something the leading experts are not even recommending.

Again, I have no problem with masks wearers, of those who think it’s a wise precaution, that is a reasonable position. But to act like non masks wearers are evil and killing people, in the face of this science, is irrational to say the least.

Transmission of SARS-CoV-2: implications for infection prevention precautions
 
Simpletruther said:
Again for all the masks Nazis. One more quote from a different World Health Organization link:

Given that infected people without symptoms can transmit the virus, it is also prudent to encourage the use of fabric face masks in public places where there is community transmission[1] and where other prevention measures, such as physical distancing, are not possible.



Notice the “and” there. Yes folks, if social distance is possible, then there is no recommendation for masks.

You guys are acting crazy over something the leading experts are not even recommending.

Again, I have no problem with masks wearers, of those who think it’s a wise precaution, that is a reasonable position. But to act like non masks wearers are evil and killing people, in the face of this science, is irrational to say the least.

Transmission of SARS-CoV-2: implications for infection prevention precautions
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Lets look at the full quote shall we

Given that infected people without symptoms can transmit the virus, it is also prudent to encourage the use of fabric face masks in public places where there is community transmission[1] and where other prevention measures, such as physical distancing, are not possible.(12) Fabric masks, if made and worn properly, can serve as a barrier to droplets expelled from the wearer into the air and environment.(12) However, masks must be used as part of a comprehensive package of preventive measures, which includes frequent hand hygiene, physical distancing when possible, respiratory etiquette, environmental cleaning and disinfection. Recommended precautions also include avoiding indoor crowded gatherings as much as possible, in particular when physical distancing is not feasible, and ensuring good environmental ventilation in any closed setting.
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So sure, if you are in the middle of the woods and not around people, you can avoid the mask, but not out in public and around people
 
yeah in public you should wear a mask but obviously not when your around anyone or socialy distanced...
 
tacomancer said:
Lets look at the full quote shall we



So sure, if you are in the middle of the woods and not around people, you can avoid the mask, but not out in public and around people
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Um, no, social distancing it is entirely possible around people and millions are doing its why the government is mandating people do it in public settings.

And the extended quote doesn’t change the point what so ever. In cases where it is recommended, it must be part of other strategies, don’t just rely on make wearing alone.
 
TypicalRussian said:
yeah in public you should wear a mask but obviously not when your around anyone or socialy distanced...
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Um, no. We are being told to social distance in public for a reason, it’s possible, and it happens constantly.
 
Simpletruther said:
Um, no, social distancing it is entirely possible around people and millions are doing its why the government is mandating people do it in public settings.

And the extended quote doesn’t change the point what so ever. In cases where it is recommended, it must be part of other strategies, don’t just rely on make wearing alone.
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Correct, but you should pretty much always be wearing a mask when around people outside your home, unless in circumstances where it can increase danger (and those situations are quite rare)

So to your original point, people not wearing masks absolutely deserve being socially ostracized. Its much like how we had to deal with smokers a decade ago.
 
Simpletruther said:
Notice the “and” there. Yes folks, if social distance is possible, then there is no recommendation for masks.
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Don't worry, noone cares if you wear a mask in your car or on your back yard.

But if you are passing me in the store isle or the library or the restaurant or on a side walk within 6 feet, wear the mask.

In order to enter most buildings, you may very well end up within 6 feet of someone.

So, what's the issue again?
 
Simpletruther said:
Again for all the masks Nazis. One more quote from a different World Health Organization link:

Given that infected people without symptoms can transmit the virus, it is also prudent to encourage the use of fabric face masks in public places where there is community transmission[1] and where other prevention measures, such as physical distancing, are not possible.



Notice the “and” there. Yes folks, if social distance is possible, then there is no recommendation for masks.

You guys are acting crazy over something the leading experts are not even recommending.

Again, I have no problem with masks wearers, of those who think it’s a wise precaution, that is a reasonable position. But to act like non masks wearers are evil and killing people, in the face of this science, is irrational to say the least.

Transmission of SARS-CoV-2: implications for infection prevention precautions
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i just don't understand zealots that post like this
 
Simpletruther said:
Ok maybe. It doesn’t alter my point about makes Nazis demonizing fellow human beings irrationally.
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nobody would wear masks on walks and just passing people but in a store i could see wearing it
 
tacomancer said:
Correct, but you should pretty much always be wearing a mask when around people outside your home, unless in circumstances where it can increase danger (and those situations are quite rare)
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No, not if you are able to social distance, which is most of the time, even in public around other people.

So to your original point, people not wearing masks absolutely deserve being socially ostracized. Its much like how we had to deal with smokers a decade ago.
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Um, no, not if they are social distancing.

And even then......no. Because there is ample evidence about smoking, whereas there is no quality evidence about masks wearing, only indirect inconclusive evidence. Your desire to Ostracize is not driven by the science, gee I wonder what is driving it.
 
Simpletruther said:
Again for all the masks Nazis. One more quote from a different World Health Organization link:

Given that infected people without symptoms can transmit the virus, it is also prudent to encourage the use of fabric face masks in public places where there is community transmission[1] and where other prevention measures, such as physical distancing, are not possible.



Notice the “and” there. Yes folks, if social distance is possible, then there is no recommendation for masks.

You guys are acting crazy over something the leading experts are not even recommending.

Again, I have no problem with masks wearers, of those who think it’s a wise precaution, that is a reasonable position. But to act like non masks wearers are evil and killing people, in the face of this science, is irrational to say the least.

Transmission of SARS-CoV-2: implications for infection prevention precautions
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You're acting as if nobody knew this.
Of course you don't need a mask if you're further away than six feet, especially if you're outside, too.
That's why we saw Cuomo without one...he was separated from everyone by a suitable distance.

The mask Nazis are the ones who speak up when they're inside a venue and people are crowding around with no mask and social distancing is NOT possible. And that's not Nazi, it's self preservation.

Been trying to explain this for well over five months and folks like you are too busy listening to Trump to hear it, now you're coming off like you discovered electricity.
 
TypicalRussian said:
nobody would wear masks on walks and just passing people but in a store i could see wearing it
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I can see wearing it as well, but given the measures being taken, most of the time social distancing is possible in stores and is happening, I can see not wearing it too.
 
Simpletruther said:
No, not if you are able to social distance, which is most of the time, even in public around other people.


Um, no, not if they are social distancing.

And even then......no. Because there is ample evidence about smoking, whereas there is no quality evidence about masks wearing, only indirect inconclusive evidence. Your desire to Ostracize is not driven by the science, gee I wonder what is driving it.
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Given that the WHO recommends masks as where possible (see the full quote which I put in)

It is 1. based on the science as WHO sees it and 2. intelligent to ostracize those who would willingly put me in danger
 
Simpletruther said:
I can see wearing it as well, but given the measures being taken, most of the time social distancing is possible in stores and is happening, I can see not wearing it too.
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thats good to hear
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
You're acting as if nobody knew this.
Of course you don't need a mask if you're further away than six feet, especially if you're outside, too.
That's why we saw Cuomo without one...he was separated from everyone by a suitable distance.

The mask Nazis are the ones who speak up when they're inside a venue and people are crowding around with no mask and social distancing is NOT possible. And that's not Nazi, it's self preservation.

Been trying to explain this for well over five months and folks like you are too busy listening to Trump to hear it, now you're coming off like you discovered electricity.
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There are plenty of posts here where posters Saying if you go to the store, wear a mask, and insulting those who do not. So yes, the Nazis are out there.
 
tacomancer said:
Given that the WHO recommends masks as where possible (see the full quote which I put in)

It is 1. based on the science as WHO sees it and 2. intelligent to ostracize those who would willingly put me in danger
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Better read that quote again, it never says wear Mask when possible. It’s nearly always possible to wear a mask.

It clearly recommends wear a mask if social distancing is NOT possible.

And my comments are directed st those who insult others for not wearing masks in public, (even when social distancing). If thst isn’t you, then fine.

I have no problem with you ostracizing someone who gets in your face without a mask.
 
Simpletruther said:
Better read that quote again, it never says wear Mask when possible. It’s nearly always possible to wear a mask.

It clearly recommends wear a mask if social distancing is NOT possible.

And my comments are directed st those who insult others for not wearing masks in public, (even when social distancing). If thst isn’t you, then fine.

I have no problem with you ostracizing someone who gets in your face without a mask.
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However, masks must be used as part of a comprehensive package of preventive measures, which includes frequent hand hygiene, physical distancing when possible,
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The WHO recommends three practices when possible. Masks are one of them, washing and distancing are two others.

Also, I don't care what you may or may not approve of when it comes to my decisions. People who put others in danger due to childish concerns over a $2 piece of fabric are not adults.
 
tacomancer said:
The WHO recommends three practices, when possible. Masks are one of them.
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But it doesn’t. Is it possible for you to wear a mask when out in the wilderness all alone?

The according to your claim above, they recommend doing so. Clearly you have misunderstood the quote.
 
Simpletruther said:
But it doesn’t. Is it possible for you to wear a mask when out in the wilderness all alone?

The according to your claim above, they recommend doing so. Clearly you have misunderstood the quote.
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The WHO spells it out quite clearly, wear masks where possible.
 
Simpletruther said:
There are plenty of posts here where posters Saying if you go to the store, wear a mask, and insulting those who do not. So yes, the Nazis are out there.
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You missed the point.
If you go to the store ... yes you HAVE to wear a mask. Stores are indoor venues with crowded conditions, i.e. INCUBATORS.

If there's only one or two other people in the store and they're at the other end of the store then yes you could take it off but why not just cooperate and wear it, and when you leave, you can take it off.

No one insulting people who don't wear a mask, that's ridiculous.
Insult is the wrong word.
I don't insult people, I get mad at them because they are being inconsiderate of the health of others, like me.
I am high risk, so I can't afford to have someone breathing cooties all over me from two feet away.

As usual you're missing the point.
Mask slackers think this is about their rights and freedoms.
What about MY right to breathe air that isn't potentially contaminated with your virus if you're an asymptomatic carrier, which you wouldn't know if you're ASYMPTOMATIC.
 
Simpletruther said:
There are plenty of posts here where posters Saying if you go to the store, wear a mask, and insulting those who do not. So yes, the Nazis are out there.
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Your stores must be empty. I can't go into a store w/o often being within 6' of someone. To be constantly lowering and raising my mask based on being within distance would be like that Woody Allen movie where he's in a steam room, constantly wiping his glasses to see while having a conversation with someone. It's downright ignorant, anti-social and antagonistic to go into a store w/o a mask.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
You missed the point.
If you go to the store ... yes you HAVE to wear a mask. Stores are indoor venues with crowded conditions, i.e. INCUBATORS.

If there's only one or two other people in the store and they're at the other end of the store then yes you could take it off but why not just cooperate and wear it, and when you leave, you can take it off.

No one insulting people who don't wear a mask, that's ridiculous.
Insult is the wrong word.
I don't insult people, I get mad at them because they are being inconsiderate of the health of others, like me.
I am high risk, so I can't afford to have someone breathing cooties all over me from two feet away.

As usual you're missing the point.
Mask slackers think this is about their rights and freedoms.
What about MY right to breathe air that isn't potentially contaminated with your virus if you're an asymptomatic carrier, which you wouldn't know if you're ASYMPTOMATIC.
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In the old libertarian adage of your right to punch stops at my nose ... in this case, every breath that lands on another is a potential punch
 
bluesmoke said:
Your stores must be empty. I can't go into a store w/o often being within 6' of someone. To be constantly lowering and raising my mask based on being within distance would be like that Woody Allen movie where he's in a steam room, constantly wiping his glasses to see while having a conversation with someone. It's downright ignorant, anti-social and antagonistic to go into a store w/o a mask.
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I won't even go to some stores like walmart anymore, too many idiots.
 
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