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Trump doesn’t seem to understand that opening schools would make a bad situation worse

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Trump doesn’t seem to understand that opening schools would make a bad situation worse

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8/6/20
Is it possible that President Trump could do a worse job handling the covid-19 pandemic, causing even more needless illness and death? I fear we’re about to find out. “OPEN THE SCHOOLS!!!” he tweeted again this week, for the umpteenth time. That’s the equivalent of chugging blindly down the Niagara River, approaching the lip of the falls — and giving the order to proceed full speed ahead. Aided and abetted by Republican governors, Trump is pushing hard for in-person classroom instruction this fall in all of the nation’s schools, some of which have already started the new year. He has threatened to withhold federal funding from public school districts that don’t fully open; and while the official White House position acknowledges that “flexibility” is needed, Trump continues to bully local officials to “open 100 percent.” It would be wonderful for the economy, and for parents’ mental health, if this were possible — and it could be possible, if Trump had taken the novel coronavirus seriously and orchestrated a proper nationwide shutdown, like governments in other developed countries did, and driven the infection rate down to a manageable level. In that event, Americans would be preparing to safely and cautiously open schools from coast to coast. But Trump’s position all along has been that covid-19, which has claimed at least 156,000 American lives, is no big deal. “This thing’s going away. It will go away like things go away,” he said Wednesday on “Fox & Friends.”

In reality as we know it, some things go away and some don’t. Rainbows go away. Highly infectious novel viruses do not, according to Trump’s own medical experts, whose expertise he is foolish enough to dismiss. Trump told his bewildered-looking “Fox & Friends” cheer-leading squad that schools can safely open because children are “almost immune” to the virus — a claim so false and toxic that Twitter, Trump’s trusty megaphone, forced his campaign to delete the video clip. Every reputable study has shown that though the vast majority of children do not suffer serious illness from the virus, they do become infected and can pass it on to others. Nations around the world are struggling with the pandemic. But those that have managed to reopen schools have done so with caution — and after first driving infection rates to very low levels. Here, the virus is still “extraordinarily widespread,” according to the head of Trump’s coronavirus task force, Deborah Birx. We’re not ready. I’m afraid the virus won’t “go away” until Trump does. According to a Pew Research Center poll released this week, only 19 percent of U.S. adults believe there should be full-time, in-person instruction in the schools this fall. Americans seem to understand, in a way that Trump fails to grasp, that opening schools now would make a bad situation much worse.

I personally believe that one size does not fit all here.

But it is insane and reckless to have school systems physically fully reopen in counties with a high incidence of COVID.
 
well, he is a dumb ass who makes decisions with his "gut".
 
Trump hasn't opened a single school.

Do you not think the political pressure from the President, the leader of the country, has anything to do with the school situation?

People like that get others to do the dirty work so suckers like you can claim their hands are clean.
 
Do you not think the political pressure from the President, the leader of the country, has anything to do with the school situation?

People like that get others to do the dirty work so suckers like you can claim their hands are clean.

I don't think political pressure from the President has to do with any of my local school districts decisions on whether, when or how to open their schools. Hell, there's not even any political pressure from my governor.

If school districts in other states are that influenced by the President, perhaps they should grow a spine and learn to decide for themselves.
 
Re: Trump doesn’t seem to understand that opening schools would make a bad situation worse

Just how many threads do we have to have on this subject?
Over the top Trump fixation!


Science says: 'Open the schools'

Science says: 'Open the schools' | TheHill

The irony in such language is that children are safe at school already. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) states that of the first 68,998 U.S. deaths from COVID-19, only 12 have been in children under age 14 — less than 0.02 percent. Nor is coronavirus killing teenagers. At last count, the fatality total among children under 18 without an underlying condition is one; only ten of the 16,469 confirmed coronavirus deaths in New York City were among those under the age of 18. That’s similar to the fatality rate for those under 20 in France, estimated at 0.001 percent, and in Spain.

The death of even one child is tragic, of course. Yet, it must be kept in mind that as many as 600 children in the United States died from seasonal influenza in 2017-18, according to CDC estimates, while the CDC’s estimate for COVID-19 fatalities number just 12. A just-released JAMA Pediatrics study flatly states: “Our data indicate that children are at far greater risk of critical illness from influenza than from COVID-19.” If the COVID-19 hazard sets the new standard for health safety, the country will need to close its schools each year from November until April to guard against influenza.


While public attention is focused on exceptional rarities, learning is in free-fall. In Boston, only half of students are showing up for online instruction on any given day; 20 percent of them have never logged on to the designated website. "This situation is going to be like what is often called the summer slide [in student achievement], but on steroids," says Virginia's state school superintendent.

Low-income students are suffering the most.
Many lack WIFI, computer tablets, software and other paraphernalia of the affluent. Nor are they as likely to have access to equivalent mentors at home as those with better educated parents. Robin Lake at the Center for Reinventing Public Education says that “elementary students [in urban districts] may have lost 30 percent of their reading skills.”

Closure will endanger the health of our children, too. Already, more than half of America’s children are not receiving needed vaccinations. Further, schools are the place where many learn that they need glasses or a hearing aid, or, if seriously ill, are guided by the school nurse to the doctor’s office for prompt medical attention.

In addition, children are being denied opportunities for social and emotional development that come with play, exercise, sports and socialization. Reports already indicate that suicide rates among the young are on the increase. More certain is the loss in human capital that lasts a lifetime: Closing schools this past spring translates into a 3 percent or more cut in lifetime earnings for those whose education is being sidelined. Clearly, closing schools does not benefit those whom schools are supposed to serve.
 
Trump hasn't opened a single school.

Yet he is calling for them to be opened. He doesn't care about the consequences it would cause, because he's only interested in how it makes him look like he's getting things back to normal. Thankfully this is up to the states/locals who, in most cases, are looking out for the citizens.
 
I don't think political pressure from the President has to do with any of my local school districts decisions on whether, when or how to open their schools. Hell, there's not even any political pressure from my governor.

If school districts in other states are that influenced by the President, perhaps they should grow a spine and learn to decide for themselves.

The point of a leader is to lead and if our derp Leader Trump is applying pressure and threats of cutting funding like he does, it does make a difference.

President Donald Trump on Tuesday said the White House plans to pressure state governors and educators to reopen schools in the fall, despite a soaring rate of coronavirus infections in several states and an overall increase nationwide.

We’re very much going to put pressure on the governors and the schools to reopen,” Trump said at a White House event Tuesday on school reopenings. “Open your schools in the fall,” the president told attendees, who were seated close together despite the fact that very few were wearing masks.

Trump: We will pressure governors to reopen schools amid coronavirus
 
Trump doesn’t seem to understand that opening schools would make a bad situation worse

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I personally believe that one size does not fit all here.

But it is insane and reckless to have school systems physically fully reopen in counties with a high incidence of COVID.

The individual localities decide whether they open schools or not. It has nothing to do with Trump. And don't post me any crap that Trump said this or did that. The individual localities decide whether they open schools or not.
 
The individual localities decide whether they open schools or not. It has nothing to do with Trump. And don't post me any crap that Trump said this or did that. The individual localities decide whether they open schools or not.

Hard to deflect blame when Trump's pre-emptively assumed responsibility. He threatened, cajoled, and demanded schools open regardless of local conditions or transmission rates. It's reckless and he'll own all the wrecks.
 
The point is why he is doing the threatening to reopen by withholding funds (he can't). He doesn't care about their welfare. He only cares how he looks, and how it will help him in his re-election. Let's not forget how despicable that is.
 
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If school districts are so dependent upon the federal government that they can't exist without that funding, that's their fault. I have no sympathy for them.
then it would appear you are OK with the president's threat to withhold federal funding from school systems which refuse to place their constituencies in harm's way

Also...if they are not open, why do they need the funding? They aren't doing anything.
lots of kids live in homes without access to the internet
lots of kids are without access to a computer to receive the online instruction
hopefully, you can now recognize that there is a need for spending for broadband and computers by the school system which did not exist in a conventional school setting

that need will likely more than offset the savings in paper towels and toilet paper, and bus drivers, no longer needed
 
If school districts are so dependent upon the federal government that they can't exist without that funding, that's their fault. I have no sympathy for them.

Also...if they are not open, why do they need the funding? They aren't doing anything.

No, of course they're not doing anything; except online teaching, preparing lessons, grading students-and wondering how the hell they can safely open when there is no cohesive plan in place to ensure the safety of the children and the teaching staff.
 
Trump is a day trader, he has no plans. When something goes bad he will create a new scandal to try to cover it up,

When mothers in Red states that were Trumpers have their kids die because they went back to school Trump will regret the push to open them without safe procedures or a plan.
 
Opening the schools right now is raving Renfield bug eating madness.
 
Trump is a day trader, he has no plans. When something goes bad he will create a new scandal to try to cover it up,

When mothers in Red states that were Trumpers have their kids die because they went back to school
Trump will regret the push to open them without safe procedures or a plan.

no he won't
THAT is the problem
 
well, he is a dumb ass who makes decisions with his "gut".

Well he isn't as dumb as rioters who make decisions with molotov cocktails, bricks, frozen projectiles, burning down small businesses in their own towns, nor as dumb as the democrats who support this behavior.
 
Being that we are already finding cases in the few schools that have reopened and in several social distancing and masks are not being followed, I would say we are making a huge mistake. As for trump....he Does Not Care.
 
Schools are the best place for our kids. In class, supervised and receiving the many services provided by our school systems.
 
Well he isn't as dumb as rioters who make decisions with molotov cocktails, bricks, frozen projectiles, burning down small businesses in their own towns, nor as dumb as the democrats who support this behavior.

Those sound like criminals, which democrats don't support. Do you support the criminal in the white House?
 
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