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Donald Trump is doomed, and he knows it

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Obviously, I agree with the sentiments expressed in this article and also - obviously there are others who disagree. At this time, the numbers are looking bad for Trump and some of his supporters who are running for office this November BUT things change. . . Could we see a "bang" in October - an attack on an American interest by Iran or China or some other entity?

Donald Trump is doomed, and he knows it
But will he go out with a whimper or a bang?​

ANDREW O'HEHIR

Donald Trump is doomed, and he knows it — in the limited, animalistic way he ever knows anything. His electoral prospects are dwindling toward the mathematical vanishing point, and his historical legacy is now sealed. There is no possible future in which he will not be remembered as the most catastrophically corrupt and incompetent U.S. president of the past 100 years, and quite possibly ever. If it's any consolation to him, the damage he has done is enormous
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There are those Americans who continue to believe - or say they believe - that Trump is "greatest President of my life" and then there are those who are scared ****less by what he has done to harm the nation.

I wrote two articles that year (2016) — after attending the Republican and Democratic conventions, respectively — arguing that it felt like Trump was winning and that the Hillary Clinton campaign seemed clueless.
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Mr O'Hehir doesn't appear to be a big fan of the Democratic Party - at least in the way it has managed in the past to screw up what seemed to be an easy win by an experienced politician over a businessman with multiple failures.

. . . if the Democrats find a way to screw up an election that's been handed to them on a silver platter, wrapped in crinkly designer paper with a Godiva chocolate on top, then the whole party should definitely be sold off for scrap but it won't be my fault.

Everything about Trump's behavior in recent weeks or months speaks to this dawning, if childlike, half-awareness that he is staring right in the face of doom, defeat and failure. He has played chicken with those things his entire life, and has convinced himself — and to a large extent, the rest of us —*that he can evade them through sheer cunning and the most brazen, shameless forms of salesmanship, which he mistakes for intelligence. None of that is working now, and his desperation is palpable.*
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I think it is unwise to assume the election is a done deal.

The last 4 years have been as surreal as can be and there is no telling what the future holds.

The only constant that we do know, is that with Trump, tomorrow will always be worse.
 
Jetboogieman said:
I think it is unwise to assume the election is a done deal.

The last 4 years have been as surreal as can be and there is no telling what the future holds.

The only constant that we do know, is that with Trump, tomorrow will always be worse.
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I agree. Even the worst baseball team can occasionally beat the best.
 
Somerville said:
Obviously, I agree with the sentiments expressed in this article and also - obviously there are others who disagree. At this time, the numbers are looking bad for Trump and some of his supporters who are running for office this November BUT things change. . . Could we see a "bang" in October - an attack on an American interest by Iran or China or some other entity?

There are those Americans who continue to believe - or say they believe - that Trump is "greatest President of my life" and then there are those who are scared ****less by what he has done to harm the nation.

Mr O'Hehir doesn't appear to be a big fan of the Democratic Party - at least in the way it has managed in the past to screw up what seemed to be an easy win by an experienced politician over a businessman with multiple failures.
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As you say, Mr. O'Heir is entitled to his opinion.

It is entirely possible that Donald Trump might not win re-election.

He has been facing constant assaults on his Administration by the Democrats, MSM, internal government "5th columnists," and special interests from the moment his victory was announced.

Despite all that, and despite the constant downplaying of his accomplishments as minimal, built on Obama's "foundations," or non-existent; he has factually worked on almost every promise he made with much success.

There is also that recent study/poll by the CATO Institute which shows that 62% of Americans are afraid to voice their real political opinions, and that this crossed as a majority of respondents regardless of Party affiliation.

Moreover, his poll approval numbers are, with minor deviations, returning to his base support of around 43-44%. They also seem to be rising.

I expect California, NY, and Illinois will vote Democrat, because their cities (despite all the horrible things occurring within them under Democrat leadership) will still vote Democrat.

BUT IMO the CATO study means a repeat of 2016, where the noisy anti-Trump elements using their cancel culture demonization are getting lip service from many people. People who, IMHO secretly oppose what is happening and may well vote for Trump come November 2020.

Time will tell.
 
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Captain Adverse said:
As you say, Mr. O'Heir is entitled to his opinion.

It is entirely possible that Donald Trump might not win re-election.

He has been facing constant assaults on his Administration by the Democrats, MSM, internal government "5th columnists," and special interests from the moment his victory was announced.

Despite all that, and despite the constant downplaying of his accomplishments as minimal, built on Obama's "foundations," or non-existent, he has factually worked on almost every promise he made with much success.

There is also that recent study/poll by the CATO Institute which shows that 62% of Americans are afraid to voice their real political opinions, and that this crossed as a majority of respondents regardless of Party affiliation.

Moreover, his poll approval numbers are, with minor deviations, returning to his base support of around 43-44%. They also seem to be rising.

IMO this means a repeat of 2016, where the noisy anti-Trump elements using their cancel culture demonization are getting lip service from many people...wo secretly oppose what is happening and may well vote for Trump come November 2020.

Time will tell.
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LOL! Way to whistle past the graveyard of his unprecedented corruption and massive criminal liablity, do say nothing of the blood of over 154,000 Americans on his hands.
 
Somerville said:
Obviously, I agree with the sentiments expressed in this article and also - obviously there are others who disagree. At this time, the numbers are looking bad for Trump and some of his supporters who are running for office this November BUT things change. . . Could we see a "bang" in October - an attack on an American interest by Iran or China or some other entity?


There are those Americans who continue to believe - or say they believe - that Trump is "greatest President of my life" and then there are those who are scared ****less by what he has done to harm the nation.



Mr O'Hehir doesn't appear to be a big fan of the Democratic Party - at least in the way it has managed in the past to screw up what seemed to be an easy win by an experienced politician over a businessman with multiple failures.
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This author, heretofore unknown to me, is a good writer. I just tabbed several of his other articles, and I'm going to consider adding Salon to my daily reads.

But as to the election, it ain't over 'till it's over. We are in unique time of great uncertainty, with a narcissistic President willing to use the levers of power to fix the election. Anything can happen.
 
Captain Adverse said:
As you say, Mr. O'Heir is entitled to his opinion.

It is entirely possible that Donald Trump might not win re-election.

He has been facing constant assaults on his Administration by the Democrats, MSM, internal government "5th columnists," and special interests from the moment his victory was announced.

Despite all that, and despite the constant downplaying of his accomplishments as minimal, built on Obama's "foundations," or non-existent, he has factually worked on almost every promise he made with much success.

There is also that recent study/poll by the CATO Institute which shows that 62% of Americans are afraid to voice their real political opinions, and that this crossed as a majority of respondents regardless of Party affiliation.

Moreover, his poll approval numbers are, with minor deviations, returning to his base support of around 43-44%. They also seem to be rising.

I expect California, NY, and Illinois will vote Democrat, because their cities (despite al the horrible things occurring within them under Democrat leadership) will still vote Democrat.

BUT IMO the CATO study means a repeat of 2016, where the noisy anti-Trump elements using their cancel culture demonization are getting lip service from many people...who secretly oppose what is happening and may well vote for Trump come November 2020.

Time will tell.
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It’s all just SO UNFAIR isn’t it Captain Adverse.

Why can’t people see him as the glorious leader he is like me!?!?!?!

Why is everyone such a MEANIE POO TO HIM!!!!
 
Captain Adverse said:
As you say, Mr. O'Heir is entitled to his opinion.

It is entirely possible that Donald Trump might not win re-election.

He has been facing constant assaults on his Administration by the Democrats, MSM, internal government "5th columnists," and special interests from the moment his victory was announced.

Despite all that, and despite the constant downplaying of his accomplishments as minimal, built on Obama's "foundations," or non-existent; he has factually worked on almost every promise he made with much success.

There is also that recent study/poll by the CATO Institute which shows that 62% of Americans are afraid to voice their real political opinions, and that this crossed as a majority of respondents regardless of Party affiliation.

Moreover, his poll approval numbers are, with minor deviations, returning to his base support of around 43-44%. They also seem to be rising.

I expect California, NY, and Illinois will vote Democrat, because their cities (despite al the horrible things occurring within them under Democrat leadership) will still vote Democrat.

BUT IMO the CATO study means a repeat of 2016, where the noisy anti-Trump elements using their cancel culture demonization are getting lip service from many people...who secretly oppose what is happening and may well vote for Trump come November 2020.

Time will tell.
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I do follow your logic in kind, but disagree as to the degree & depth of the factors involved. I believe Trump to be a distinct underdog, here. Not guaranteed knocked-out, but definitely the odds are against him.
 
Ordinarily, I would say the future is not set in stone. However, not only do libs/progressives want him out, even a lot of the rich and powerful are getting mighty tired of his childish stunts.
If he does make it to Nov 3 he'll have to admit that his reign is coming to an end. I suspect the puppeteers are thinking "Best that we lose this one cause Joe will never make it through 8 years and we'll set up something strong and good for the Republicans in 2024" ..."If this idiot is elected again, we'll never recover from his actions and 2024 will be hard to convince people to vote right-wing"
 
Somerville said:
Obviously, I agree with the sentiments expressed in this article and also - obviously there are others who disagree. At this time, the numbers are looking bad for Trump and some of his supporters who are running for office this November BUT things change. . . Could we see a "bang" in October - an attack on an American interest by Iran or China or some other entity?


There are those Americans who continue to believe - or say they believe - that Trump is "greatest President of my life" and then there are those who are scared ****less by what he has done to harm the nation.



Mr O'Hehir doesn't appear to be a big fan of the Democratic Party - at least in the way it has managed in the past to screw up what seemed to be an easy win by an experienced politician over a businessman with multiple failures.
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The major lie here is that any Dem would actually blame any other Dem for screwing up an election. It’s always some outside force or conspiracy instead.
 
Jetboogieman said:
It’s all just SO UNFAIR isn’t it Captain Adverse.

Why can’t people see him as the glorious leader he is like me!?!?!?!

Why is everyone such a MEANIE POO TO HIM!!!!
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And why don’t people just immediately drop their own beliefs when you says they should? Afterall, righties are all a bunch of biased partisans while lefties only stand for pure, golden, non partisan truth. :lol:
 
X Factor said:
And why don’t people just immediately drop their own beliefs when you says they should? Afterall, righties are all a bunch of biased partisans while lefties only stand for pure, golden, non partisan truth. :lol:
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In a scale of 1-10 how victimized do you feel today?
 
Both sides talk partisan bs against each other. That is one thing wrong with American. The Party is more important that the citizens of the US.

imo, the race between Trump and Biden is close at this point. It is important that one go out and vote for the candidate they believe will do the best for America.
Republicans will vote for Trump with few exceptions. Democrats will vote for Biden with few exceptions. The race is close enough that the candidate that can persuade the independent voters to vote for them will win.

I do find it interesting that President Trump is making such a big deal out of mail in ballots. He didn't seem all that concerned in 2016.:mrgreen:
 
Tanngrisnir said:
LOL! Way to whistle past the graveyard of his unprecedented corruption and massive criminal liablity, do say nothing of the blood of over 154,000 Americans on his hands.
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No matter how much you claim Trump has, personally, himself, murdered people sadly killed by a novel virus, it will never make it true. Both the WHO and Fauci initially said masks weren’t necessarily recommended, and, at least In Fauci’s case, he admitted that was a bit of dishonesty. How many people has he murdered?
 
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Somerville said:
Obviously, I agree with the sentiments expressed in this article and also - obviously there are others who disagree. At this time, the numbers are looking bad for Trump and some of his supporters who are running for office this November BUT things change. . . Could we see a "bang" in October - an attack on an American interest by Iran or China or some other entity?


There are those Americans who continue to believe - or say they believe - that Trump is "greatest President of my life" and then there are those who are scared ****less by what he has done to harm the nation.



Mr O'Hehir doesn't appear to be a big fan of the Democratic Party - at least in the way it has managed in the past to screw up what seemed to be an easy win by an experienced politician over a businessman with multiple failures.
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It doesn't matter that Hillary and the Dems thought they would win for sure and were clueless as to their losing. What matters is that Hillary rested on the laurels of heiress apparent and didn't get out there and do her job, period. Winning or losing by however much is no excuse to not do your job. You run all the way to the finish line. No coasting. That's politically illegal, politically immoral and politically fattening.
 
Jetboogieman said:
In a scale of 1-10 how victimized do you feel today?
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My level of feeling “victimized” is directly related with the level of hypocrisy I see and, since that’s always at the max, I’d have to say 10.
 
X Factor said:
No matter how much you claim Trump has, personally, himself, murdered people sadly killed by a novel virus, it will never make it true. Both the WHO and Fauci initially said masks weren’t necessarily recommended, and, at least In Fauci’s case, he admitted that was a bit of dishonesty. How many people has he murdered?
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Somehow the US is doing the worst of all developed nations. Everyone else seems to have handled this a lot better than us. What's the difference between them and us?
 
Chuck9788 said:
Is “the best” Joe Biden? I sure hope not.
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He's good enough. Much better in terms of character and integrity than what we have now. Even his biggest political rivals agree.

 
ataraxia said:
Somehow the US is doing the worst of all developed nations. Everyone else seems to have handled this a lot better than us. What's the difference between them and us?
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They didn’t encourage mass protesting and “autonomous” party zones?
 
President of the United States of America is supported by three groups.

Group the first: President Trump's loyal voter base. They support him because, primarily, his rhetoric sticks it to 'them'.

Group the second: the uber-wealthy. The tax cut President Trump signed, and other such that he may sign in a second term, will benefit them.*

Group the third: the 'conservative' idealists. They are almost salivating over President Trump and a Republican-controlled Senate replacing Supreme Court Justice Ruth Ginsberg in his second term.

You will note I have left out Republican politicians. The reason's to be found in Senate Majority Leader Addison McConnell's recently said election sooth.

Regards, stay safe 'n well. Remember the Big 3: masks, hand washing and physical distancing.

* Insight into this sort of mindset can be found in The True Believer, a book by Mr. Eric Hoffer, q.v..
 
X Factor said:
They didn’t encourage mass protesting and “autonomous” party zones?
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I thought that didn't matter and that was all just a democrat hoax. So does it matter or not?

Let's ask Herman Cain. Oh wait...
 
Jetboogieman said:
It’s all just SO UNFAIR isn’t it Captain Adverse.

Why can’t people see him as the glorious leader he is like me!?!?!?!

Why is everyone such a MEANIE POO TO HIM!!!!
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The president (any president) isn't a "leader". The communist Left sure is hung up on wanting a leader, but it stands to reason.
 
ataraxia said:
I thought that didn't matter and that was all just a democrat hoax. So does it matter or not?

Let's ask Herman Cain. Oh wait...
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Why didn't the protests have any affect on the spread?
 
Somerville said:
Obviously, I agree with the sentiments expressed in this article and also - obviously there are others who disagree. At this time, the numbers are looking bad for Trump and some of his supporters who are running for office this November BUT things change. . . Could we see a "bang" in October - an attack on an American interest by Iran or China or some other entity?


There are those Americans who continue to believe - or say they believe - that Trump is "greatest President of my life" and then there are those who are scared ****less by what he has done to harm the nation.



Mr O'Hehir doesn't appear to be a big fan of the Democratic Party - at least in the way it has managed in the past to screw up what seemed to be an easy win by an experienced politician over a businessman with multiple failures.
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I'm optimistic, but much more cautiously so than this. I think that with widespread Republican cheating, you have to shave about four points off of Biden's lead in the swing states to see where he's really at.

It's absolutely insane that Republicans are completely open about cheating, and we have no choice but to accept it and move forward with that in mind. Utterly bonkers.
 
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