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Betsy DeVos

Casper said:
I knew about her and that is the topic.

She was a Bad choice, and she is proving it. Pssst, I don't hate, hate is something you and your ilk are best at.
Have a nice weekend....
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The only reason you know her name is because the biased leftist media called her the devil before she even took the job.

Are you honestly trying to say that Democrats are not hateful? I just watched a video a couple of minutes ago of a leftist "protester" in Portland telling a police officer to his face that she hopes the police department is set on fire and that he and other officers that are in it die.
 
Chuck9788 said:
The only reason you know her name is because the biased leftist media called her the devil before she even took the job.

Are you honestly trying to say that Democrats are not hateful? I just watched a video a couple of minutes ago of a leftist "protester" in Portland telling a police officer to his face that she hopes the police department is set on fire and that he and other officers that are in it die.
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Betsy never taught, never was a principle or I believe never a school administrator. Her policies and statements suggest that she does not believe in public education, yet her private schools reportedly produced lower scores than the public schools she disparaged. That’s why people trashed her nomination. That said, she is probably more qualified than some of Trump’s other appointees, as she has some connection to the topic.

But I like the idea that one protester stands for an entire political party.
 
Betsy DeVos has exposed to EVERYONE that the previous administrations positions of just throwing money at the education department has not yielded better testing results.

She's also exposed the fraud and criminality involved in the teachers unions.
 
Chuck9788 said:
That projection would be a very sad scenario .... but it would still be under 1% of our total population and would have a very minor effect on our children (17 and under). So ... yes I would still have school open. However, that's a decision that would be made by our current administration and not mob rule Democrats.


Hey, have you noticed that I answer your questions but you have refused to answer any of mine? Just curious.
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okay, at least i gave you a number (since you wouldn't give one) and we now know that you're okay with 20,000 dead Americans per month.

is that number okay with you for 2021 as well?
 
bongsaway said:
I presume it would be helpful to be intelligent if you are the secretary of education?

Miss DeVos had made the brilliant statement that not only do children not spread covid, they don't catch it.

When schools reopen and kids start getting covid, should she resign?
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Didn't you know some ultra wealthy people actually think they are smarter than others because of their bank account.

Look at Trump and Devos
 
trixare4kids said:
DeVos gave an opinion down playing the virus in children by citing recent studies...but you go ahead and shamelessly pretend she said that children don't spread covid or catch it.

She did say we should be looking at the following:


— American Academy of Pediatrics: Evidence suggests that children don’t contract or spread the virus the way that adults do, in contrast to how they spread influenza.
— New South Wales, Australia: Eighteen infected people who had contact with nearly 900 people only resulted in a maximum of two additional infections, with “no evidence of children infecting teachers.”
— France: An infected 9-year-old in France came into contact with 172 people while attending three ski schools, and none of them — not even the child’s siblings — appeared to contract the virus.
— Saxony, Germany: A study (in German) found no evidence that schoolchildren play a role in spreading the virus, with a researcher quoted in a news report as saying that “children may even act as a brake on infection.”
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You keep on defending the moronic Trump appointees. She is one of the richest, dumbest women in the cabinet. The only reason being the richest part. She hates public education and believes it should be abolished. She wan't all kids in private schools. The problem is very few parents can afford it. Here again, she thinks with her money. She is the perfect example of what Yoho called AOC.
 
Chuck9788 said:
And just so you know ... According to Forbes, Betsy DeVos' family is worth in excess of $5.4 billion. She dies not need the hard job .... she does it as a faithful service to our nation.
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Devos took the job because her ilk believe the American peasants shouldn't have a say and she knows what's best.

Wealthy, buying their way, and making our country just the way she likes it. Next she's redoing her 10 million dollar summer home just the way she likes it.
 
Nickyjo said:
Betsy never taught, never was a principle or I believe never a school administrator. Her policies and statements suggest that she does not believe in public education, yet her private schools reportedly produced lower scores than the public schools she disparaged. That’s why people trashed her nomination. That said, she is probably more qualified than some of Trump’s other appointees, as she has some connection to the topic.

But I like the idea that one protester stands for an entire political party.
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They already know that, but that is not what they are here for.
 
The AntiDonald said:
You keep on defending the moronic Trump appointees. She is one of the richest, dumbest women in the cabinet. The only reason being the richest part. She hates public education and believes it should be abolished. She wan't all kids in private schools. The problem is very few parents can afford it. Here again, she thinks with her money. She is the perfect example of what Yoho called AOC.
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she never had to scrap for money. the Amway scheme put her in mansions and assured that she'd be taken care of for life.
 
trixare4kids said:
Did she say that? If so, cite it.

Btw, I don't think we should open our schools in CA.
Other states where the catch rate is way lower is a different story. I believe DeVos was referring to those states with lower catch rates.
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That may be true today, but for weeks Trump has been pushing for every kid in America to go back to school in September. Devos was is direct step with him for quite a while. I would check with the parents and teachers. An overwhelming number (75%) of parents and teachers have a different opinion.

Personally, I have been hesitating to go get a 15 minute haircut and I don't live in a hot spot. There are some people with underlying conditions that just don't need to take the chance. That includes parents, teachers, staff, bus drivers and everyone else it takes to run a school.
 
Casper said:
So you support homeschooling just not during a pandemic, seems you guys sang the praises of homeschooling before now, but now kids cant learn without being crowed in a classroom. Me thinks you are confused.....
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I still support home schooling. I home schooled my 3 children. I was a stay at home mom. Hubby provided our main income and I supplemented our income via an at home telephone job.

Here is the problem today many household incomes are dependent on both parents working outside the home.

The set up in those households are dependent on the schools being their free “baby/child sitters”.

Another problem is that those parents haven’t chosen to home school they are being forced to home school.

Some households do not have internet service and there is no connection to actual teachers to help them with home schooling their children.

imho We need to examine all of the potential problems that parents are dealing with in real life concerning the schooling of their children.

Roseann:)
 
Casper said:
How many sick, how many lids have preexisting conditions, we lost a 5 year old today here in Dallas, how many teachers have preexisting conditions, how many family members are susceptible? Don't know do ya, but you still want to gamble with lives, for what, to please trump?
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Perhaps, using collective intellectual brain power to work on solutions for all of those problems?

Not the usual one size fits all solutions the “government” has been using for years to not fix the problems.

imho Roseann:)
 
CharisRose said:
I still support home schooling. I home schooled my 3 children. I was a stay at home mom. Hubby provided our main income and I supplemented our income via an at home telephone job.

Here is the problem today many household incomes are dependent on both parents working outside the home.

The set up in those households are dependent on the schools being their free “baby/child sitters”.

Another problem is that those parents haven’t chosen to home school they are being forced to home school.

Some households do not have internet service and there is no connection to actual teachers to help them with home schooling their children.

imho We need to examine all of the potential problems that parents are dealing with in real life concerning the schooling of their children.

Roseann:)
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I understand all of the cons here, I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of those claiming children cannot learn properly when not in the classroom setting yet forget that many of those same people have sung the praises of home schooling.
I also understand the plight of those with circumstances where bring home is simply not an option, or that have children with special needs that really do require a more structured environment. How you resolve that is being addressed by several different methods, allowing those with special needs to attend class in person and those with small children 1-8 grades that cannot be home with the child to either attend on a rotating basis or full time. I don't know about everywhere but here in DFW they are providing laptops or tablets along with a hot spot for those that do not have them and older children such as highschool aged kids learning at home should be very fesable, whether the parents are home or not, possibly also using a rotating schedule.
There are other ideas and I agree there is no one method that fits all. That said if we really want to get it done we can find away. What is not fesable is seeing all the kids back to school at the same time, not unless we want a disaster on our hands. This not an either/or situation, mean everyone in a classroom or no education is possible. I would also add that the majority want the schools to open, the majority also add the stipulation of when it is safe, most know it is not safe in most areas at this time and won't be in two weeks.
Hopefully that clears up where I stand on the issue.
 
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bongsaway said:
I presume it would be helpful to be intelligent if you are the secretary of education?

Miss DeVos had made the brilliant statement that not only do children not spread covid, they don't catch it.

When schools reopen and kids start getting covid, should she resign?
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CharisRose said:
I still support home schooling. I home schooled my 3 children. I was a stay at home mom. Hubby provided our main income and I supplemented our income via an at home telephone job.

Here is the problem today many household incomes are dependent on both parents working outside the home.

The set up in those households are dependent on the schools being their free “baby/child sitters”.

Another problem is that those parents haven’t chosen to home school they are being forced to home school.

Some households do not have internet service and there is no connection to actual teachers to help them with home schooling their children.

imho We need to examine all of the potential problems that parents are dealing with in real life concerning the schooling of their children.

Roseann:)
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There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. ^ (previous poster)

How can some not see that being forced to homeschool during a pandemic is not the same as having the liberty to choose homeschooling?

It's like comparing mustard to catchup.
 
Casper said:
I understand all of the cons here, I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of those claiming children cannot learn properly when not in the classroom setting yet forget that many of those same people have sung the praises of home schooling.
I also understand the plight of those with circumstances where bring home is simply not an option, or that have children with special needs that really do require a more structured environment. How you resolve that is being addressed by several different methods, allowing those with special needs to attend class in person and those with small children 1-8 grades that cannot be home with the child to either attend on a rotating basis or full time. I don't know about everywhere but here in DFW they are providing laptops or tablets along with a hot spot for those that do not have them and older children such as highschool aged kids learning at home should be very fesable, whether the parents are home or not, possibly also using a rotating schedule.
There are other ideas and I agree there is no one method that fits all. That said if we really want to get it done we can find away. What is not fesable is seeing all the kids back to school at the same time, not unless we want a disaster on our hands. This not an either/or situation, mean everyone in a classroom or no education is possible. I would also add that the majority want the schools to open, the majority also add the stipulation of when it is safe, most know it is not safe in most areas at this time and won't be in two weeks.
Hopefully that clears up where I stand on the issue.
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My point was it is not hypocrisy on the part of those who promote voluntary home school based on parents who made the choice to homeschool.

Home schooling involves parental preparation to do it properly. Securing curriculum. Children need interaction with other children. Those are just a couple of preparation examples.

My daughter attended tap school. All of my children (2 sons, 1 daughter) were on a rollerblade hockey team. Sons where goalies. Daughter played both defense and forward.

I had a piano in my home. All 3 of my children play the piano. One son plays guitar and clarinet. Youngest son plays multiple instruments and he started his own band.

Those are also just a couple of preparation examples.

What is passing for “home schooling” currently is not in reality the type of home schooling practiced by the parents that voluntarily made the choice to home school their children.

It is a major parental commitment to home school children and does not work out well when forced on totally unprepared parents to accomplish the task of properly home schooling their children.

I’m hoping that all of the collective intellectuals will use all of their brain power and all their extra time to come up with great ideas to accommodate all of the individual parents, students and teachers within all of the individual schools within all of the individual States, Cities, and etc. based on all those different needs to find a way to provide a reasonable and productive education for America’s children.

imho Roseann:)
 
trixare4kids said:
There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. ^ (previous poster)

How can some not see that being forced to homeschool during a pandemic is not the same as having the liberty to choose homeschooling?

It's like comparing mustard to catchup.
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Perhaps, it’s simply refusal to remove the hands covering the eyes to see the clear difference between the different bottle structures and colors when comparing the two?

Roseann:)
 
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