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Seattle passes payroll tax targeting employees who earn over 150k

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Seattle passes payroll tax targeting Amazon and other big businesses

Called the "JumpStart Seattle" tax, the bill passed late Monday on a 7-2 vote and is expected to go into effect in 2021. Money from the tax will initially be used to fund coronavirus relief but will eventually go toward addressing housing and homelessness in Seattle.

Under the measure, businesses with at least $7 million in annual payroll expenses will be taxed 0.7% to 2.4% on the amount they pay Seattle-based employees, with tiers based on individual salary amounts above $150,000. The highest bracket targets companies like Amazon with annual payroll expenses above $1 billion.

When you tax something, get less of it. If you tax high paying jobs, you'll get fewer high paying jobs.

Oh, and in case you have to ask, government employees are exempt:

5.38.040 Exemptions from the payroll expense tax. The following are exempt from the payroll expense tax:1. Any business having payroll expense, as defined under Section 5.38.020,of less than $7million in the most recent complete calendar year.2. Any business engaged in business in Seattle as a grocery business.3. Any individual who is an independent contractor for purposes of the business license tax undersubsection 5.45.090.S and whose compensation is included in the payroll expense of another business subject tothe tax imposed by Section 5.38.030.4. Businesses that are preempted from taxation by cities pursuant to federal or state statutes orregulations, including, but not limited to, the following:a. Insurance businesses and their agents as defined by RCW 48.01.050 and 48.17.010,respectively, and whose total revenue is exempt from the business license tax per Chapter 5.45.b. Businesses that only sell, manufacture, or distribute motor vehicle fuel as defined inRCW 82.38.020 and exempted under RCW 82.38.080.c. Businesses that only distribute or sell liquor as defined in RCW 66.04.010 andexempted in RCW 66.08.120.d. Federal and state government agencies and any local governmental entity.

http://seattle.legistar.com/ViewRep...ithText&Title=Legislation+Details+(With+Text)

This should give you some idea as to why they exempted government employees:

Why The City Of Seattle And Their Police Department Is In Trouble

Ain't democracy grand?
 
Seattle passes payroll tax targeting Amazon and other big businesses



When you tax something, get less of it. If you tax high paying jobs, you'll get fewer high paying jobs.

Oh, and in case you have to ask, government employees are exempt:



This should give you some idea as to why they exempted government employees:

Why The City Of Seattle And Their Police Department Is In Trouble

Ain't democracy grand?



Seattle has the 4th highest avg income of any city in the US. Amazon pays hardly any tax, in any way. They have many employees on govt assistance due to low pay. Large corps have been raking in profits while the homeless pop increases and affordable housing disappears due to increased land cost. Sounds like a good plan to me.
 
The solution seems rather obvious - large (thus evil?) businesses, which have been narrowly targeted for special tax penalties, should not remain located in Seattle, WA. This is why such tax the hell out of "the rich" plans are said to only work at the federal government level - it is just too easy to have folks vote with their feet when such schemes are implemented at the city, county or state level.
 
The solution seems rather obvious - large (thus evil?) businesses, which have been narrowly targeted for special tax penalties, should not remain located in Seattle, WA. This is why such tax the hell out of "the rich" plans are said to only work at the federal government level - it is just too easy to have folks vote with their feet when such schemes are implemented at the city, county or state level.

Poor, poor corporate america. My heart is bleeding for them.

I swear the republicans are the true socialists who want everything for free with their constant griping about taxes. Why do you keep supporting a system where ten percent of the people own eighty percent of the money?
 
Seattle passes payroll tax targeting Amazon and other big businesses



When you tax something, get less of it. If you tax high paying jobs, you'll get fewer high paying jobs.

Oh, and in case you have to ask, government employees are exempt:



This should give you some idea as to why they exempted government employees:

Why The City Of Seattle And Their Police Department Is In Trouble

Ain't democracy grand?

Government always exempts itself from equal treatment under the law. Why anyone believes government is honest or gives a damn about people is hard to understand. The Seattle city government as pure corruption and doesn't give a damn about anyone but themselves.
 
Poor, poor corporate america. My heart is bleeding for them.

I swear the republicans are the true socialists who want everything for free with their constant griping about taxes. Why do you keep supporting a system where ten percent of the people own eighty percent of the money?

Salaries are not corporate income (making profits higher) they are a corporate business expense (making profits lower). How can folks who claim to want workers to be paid more also support taxing employers more because they are paying higher wages/salaries?
 
Seattle has the 4th highest avg income of any city in the US. Amazon pays hardly any tax, in any way. They have many employees on govt assistance due to low pay. Large corps have been raking in profits while the homeless pop increases and affordable housing disappears due to increased land cost. Sounds like a good plan to me.

If you were to look at Amazon's financial statements, you would see that it does in fact, pay taxes. Roughly $1 Billion in 2017 and nearly $1.2 Billion in 2018 (income taxes at state and local levels and international taxes). Amazon takes advantage of several incentives, including a large investment in Research and Development, investments in property and equipment and employee stock compensation. It reinvests profits into its operations.
 
The solution seems rather obvious - large (thus evil?) businesses, which have been narrowly targeted for special tax penalties, should not remain located in Seattle, WA. This is why such tax the hell out of "the rich" plans are said to only work at the federal government level - it is just too easy to have folks vote with their feet when such schemes are implemented at the city, county or state level.

It is quite true that on the State level it makes it easy for corporations to escape tax plans. However, corporations don't really pay a lot of taxes either, and some businesses can easily move production or headquarters elsewhere in order to bypass the taxes too.

What we need is a global tax.

Step 1: Take over the world
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit
 
If you were to look at Amazon's financial statements, you would see that it does in fact, pay taxes. Roughly $1 Billion in 2017 and nearly $1.2 Billion in 2018 (income taxes at state and local levels and international taxes). Amazon takes advantage of several incentives, including a large investment in Research and Development, investments in property and equipment and employee stock compensation. It reinvests profits into its operations.

Amazon pays what little it can get away with. It's no different here in the UK:

Why is Amazon still paying little tax in the UK?
 
It is quite true that on the State level it makes it easy for corporations to escape tax plans. However, corporations don't really pay a lot of taxes either, and some businesses can easily move production or headquarters elsewhere in order to bypass the taxes too.

What we need is a global tax.

Step 1: Take over the world
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit

Corporations do not pay taxes - they collect them from their customers and forward them to the government. Taxation expenses, like payroll expenses, are just another cost of sales (doing business?) thus must be passed on to the end consumer (included in the price of goods/services) in order to remain (profitably) in business.
 
Salaries are not corporate income (making profits higher) they are a corporate business expense (making profits lower). How can folks who claim to want workers to be paid more also support taxing employers more because they are paying higher wages/salaries?

I describe it as money that could be used for company raises redistributed to someone who’s votes you need. In the end, the consumer pays the bills.
 
Seattle passes payroll tax targeting Amazon and other big businesses



When you tax something, get less of it. If you tax high paying jobs, you'll get fewer high paying jobs.

Oh, and in case you have to ask, government employees are exempt:



This should give you some idea as to why they exempted government employees:

Why The City Of Seattle And Their Police Department Is In Trouble

Ain't democracy grand?

that can be challenged in court as unfair tax targetting.
 
I describe it as money that could be used for company raises redistributed to someone who’s votes you need. In the end, the consumer pays the bills.

Many fail to see that (bolded above) simple truth.
 
Seattle has the 4th highest avg income of any city in the US. Amazon pays hardly any tax, in any way. They have many employees on govt assistance due to low pay. Large corps have been raking in profits while the homeless pop increases and affordable housing disappears due to increased land cost. Sounds like a good plan to me.

Their average warehouse worker makes 30k a year.
Their average salary for skilled positions ranges greatly.

Amazon.com Inc range from an average of $59,558 to $152,575.
 
Salaries are not corporate income (making profits higher) they are a corporate business expense (making profits lower). How can folks who claim to want workers to be paid more also support taxing employers more because they are paying higher wages/salaries?

again you are talking about logic and reason to people that do not understand such concepts.
 
I describe it as money that could be used for company raises redistributed to someone who’s votes you need. In the end, the consumer pays the bills.

consumer always pays the bills. it is something these people do not understand.
 
i am sure Dallas, Atlanta, or some other city with a great hub would love those jobs

Let the blue states continue to shoot themselves in the head and let their tax base companies leave

The red states love the high paying jobs coming into their economies

Tesla is another great example...soon to leave California....when will the progressives/liberals learn?
 
The solution seems rather obvious - large (thus evil?) businesses, which have been narrowly targeted for special tax penalties, should not remain located in Seattle, WA. This is why such tax the hell out of "the rich" plans are said to only work at the federal government level - it is just too easy to have folks vote with their feet when such schemes are implemented at the city, county or state level.

This may surprise you but taxation is not a huge reason for a business to stay or go.
France has way, way higher tax than the US and companies still stay because they like being in France and they value their staff who won't just move with them if they decide to go to a US state for tax reasons.
 
This may surprise you but taxation is not a huge reason for a business to stay or go.
France has way, way higher tax than the US and companies still stay because they like being in France and they value their staff who won't just move with them if they decide to go to a US state for tax reasons.

You seem to have missed my point entirely - there is plenty of the US which is not located in Seattle, WA.
 
You seem to have missed my point entirely - there is plenty of the US which is not located in Seattle, WA.

Yep, and companies don't flee just because they face slightly more tax for them or the people they employ.
 
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Corporations do not pay taxes - they collect them from their customers and forward them to the government. Taxation expenses, like payroll expenses, are just another cost of sales (doing business?) thus must be passed on to the end consumer (included in the price of goods/services) in order to remain (profitably) in business.

Good luck getting anyone on the political left to accept that. They simple can't or won't understand tax incidence.
 
If you were to look at Amazon's financial statements, you would see that it does in fact, pay taxes. Roughly $1 Billion in 2017 and nearly $1.2 Billion in 2018 (income taxes at state and local levels and international taxes). Amazon takes advantage of several incentives, including a large investment in Research and Development, investments in property and equipment and employee stock compensation. It reinvests profits into its operations.



I hardly count international taxes as respects Americans. But let's not forget the $162 million in federal income tax — an effective tax rate of 1.2% on over $13 billion in profits, in 2019. Woo-woo!
 
Their average warehouse worker makes 30k a year.
Their average salary for skilled positions ranges greatly.

Amazon.com Inc range from an average of $59,558 to $152,575.



The avg warehouse worker salary in Seattle, WA is $35,626 and it’s a safe bet that w/o Amazon in the avg the figure would be a fair bit higher.

Warehouse Worker Salary in Seattle, WA | Salary.com.
 
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