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BLM shoots yet another

Michael Cole said:
Everything is uber-<the opposite of me> propaganda when you're looking in from the extreme.

BBC is slightly left on the complete spectrum. Those on both extremes are so far away from normal, they just can't see the middle anymore. This is a serious problem.
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I am sure he thinks MSM is also uber-left. I see a lot of people claim that Fox News is the only unbiased source anymore. It is frightening.
 
calamity said:
A 3am shooting is not going to be BLM related. Besides, reports I read stated that this supposed good mother who was out cohorting with fools at about 3am used the N-word, directing it at a group of black people--at 3AM.

I can see where that would get someone shot.
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They were armed. The boyfriend returned fire. Young, dumb and full of guns.

The death of the woman is tragic, and my heart goes out to her family. The boyfriend is a different story. I don't know. Maybe he's telling the truth. But this just doesn't pass the smell test for me. Not yet.

Eventually the two sides separated because they realized they were both armed. The groups then fist bumped and walked away from each other.

However, minutes later Ramirez claims the killer opened fire from a nearby bridge and ran away.

“It was squashed and they went up the hill and left we thought, but they were sitting on St. Clair waiting for us to come under the bridge and that’s when she got shot,” said the victim’s fiancé Jose Ramirez."

Maybe I'm just gettin' old, but WTF does that statement mean?
 
Xilnik said:
I am sure he thinks MSM is also uber-left. I see a lot of people claim that Fox News is the only unbiased source anymore. It is frightening.
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The ***** hats and crayons are over there in the left corner ...
 
Whythink said:
Really? Laughable, ignorant, and pathetic.

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I've made detailed threads on this.

George Floyd was a violent drug addled criminal degenerate who did degenerate things and didn't care for his health and died of a heart attack while the officers used non deadly force in accordance with policy.
 
Barnacle said:
I'm asking you ... because you selected whose lives matter ... and subsequently whose not.
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First... what I said was a play off of what you said...


...but since you asked, saying black lives matter does not mean that other non-black lives do not matter.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
I've made detailed threads on this.

George Floyd was a violent drug addled criminal degenerate who did degenerate things and didn't care for his health and died of a heart attack while the officers used non deadly force in accordance with policy.
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I remember.

Still laughing.

Flat earth argument.

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Whythink said:
I remember.

Still laughing.

Flat earth argument.

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flat earth is the invented argument that the police In Floyd did anything wrong. but leftists never admit they lie, because their whole political philosophy from men becoming women to police racism is all lies
 
Barnacle said:
The ***** hats and crayons are over there in the left corner ...
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Sorry I triggered you. I will refrain from setting the record straight on Fox News in your vicinity in the future. I did not realize it was such a difficult subject for you, and I hope you can recover from my post.
 
Xilnik said:
Sorry I triggered you. I will refrain from setting the record straight on Fox News in your vicinity in the future. I did not realize it was such a difficult subject for you, and I hope you can recover from my post.
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I see you found the ***** hats ... ;)
 
Barnacle said:
No, it isn't. Somebody shouts: "Trump!" and immediately the other side defines that person as a Trump cult member.

The moment you shout: "Black lives matter!", you become part of the BLM "organization".

That's how it is.
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If a trump supporter murders someone, should we blame all trump supporters? That's what the op and many others here are doing.


Bodhisattva said:
Until you can prove it was not BLM it is a BLM Killing...
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So I guess you're not too big on personal responsibility for ones actions?

1. Innocent until proven guilty
2. Guilty until proven innocent
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329. Millions of people of a particular political persuasion share guilt in a murder. This guilt is assumed until the killer is proven innocent or proven to not share that particular political view. <---------------(you)

To explain, justice in this country is typically based on principle 1. Politics and other factors sometimes twist that principle in various ways. I'm not sure how you managed to mangle ethics to get it into your particular shape, but I'm sure there were lots of steps involved and I'd love for you to explain them. I'm also wondering if you apply your warped sense of justice consistently, or if you only bring it out when it's politically convenient?

And lastly, to be completely clear, it is a terrible tragedy and I'm sorry for the victim. Based on the evidence I've seen, the shooter looks to be guilty of murder. I'm confident the justice system will punish them appropriately. Statements like the OP and the quoted posts are absurd attempts to harness this tragedy to slander millions of political opponents. Disgraceful.
 
Barnacle said:
I see you found the ***** hats ... ;)
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Yep, they were right where you left them after your party finished watching Fox News and had the discussion on wearing masks to protect people from COVID-19.
 
Elmo said:
If a trump supporter murders someone, should we blame all trump supporters? That's what the op and many others here are doing.



So I guess you're not too big on personal responsibility for ones actions?

1. Innocent until proven guilty
2. Guilty until proven innocent
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329. Millions of people of a particular political persuasion share guilt in a murder. This guilt is assumed until the killer is proven innocent or proven to not share that particular political view. <---------------(you)

To explain, justice in this country is typically based on principle 1. Politics and other factors sometimes twist that principle in various ways. I'm not sure how you managed to mangle ethics to get it into your particular shape, but I'm sure there were lots of steps involved and I'd love for you to explain them. I'm also wondering if you apply your warped sense of justice consistently, or if you only bring it out when it's politically convenient?

And lastly, to be completely clear, it is a terrible tragedy and I'm sorry for the victim. Based on the evidence I've seen, the shooter looks to be guilty of murder. I'm confident the justice system will punish them appropriately. Statements like the OP and the quoted posts are absurd attempts to harness this tragedy to slander millions of political opponents. Disgraceful.
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Are you implying that this was a black lives matter killing then? Explain why please...
 
Barnacle said:
Yup; sort of like everything is alt-right from your perspective. :lol:
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:confused:

You're gonna have to cut me some slack on these brain teasers, Ms. Barnacle.

No, you couldn't be more wrong.

Trump is alt-right (his followers are QAnon)
George Will is conservative
John Kasich is center-right
Joe Biden is center-left
Mika Brzezinski is liberal
Elizabeth Warren is progressive
Bernie Sanders is socialist

You see, your problem is a simple matter of physics. You are so far to the right, that you've lost sight of everyone but those like you. You're just too far away from simple norms to see anybody. Anybody else at all. Bernie Bros suffer the same malady. It's kinda spooky, actually.

No, Barnacle, one advantage of being independent is that you can see everybody, from everywhere.
 
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Michael Cole said:
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You're gonna have to cut me some slack on these brain teasers, Ms. Barnacle.
No, you couldn't be more wrong.
Trump is alt-right (his followers are QAnon)
George Will is conservative
John Kasich is center-right
Joe Biden is center-left
Mika Brzezinski is liberal
Elizabeth Warren is progressive
Bernie Sanders is socialist
You see, your problem is a simple matter of physics. You are so far to the right, that you've lost sight of everyone but those like you. You're just to far away from normal to see anybody. Anybody else at all. Bernie Bros suffer the same malady. It's kinda spooky, actually.
No, Barnacle, one advantage of being independent is that you can see everybody, from everywhere.
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You'd like to see yourself as independent ... but you are not. You think calling yourself independent gives you an aura of superiority, being above left and right, being neutral, looking at things from various angles and perspectives, analyzing and coming to an unbiased opinion.

But you are none of it; you are like the rest of us: you pick a side and decide that is the only right one with only your opinion being the correct one.
 
Xilnik said:
I am sure he thinks MSM is also uber-left. I see a lot of people claim that Fox News is the only unbiased source anymore. It is frightening.
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Fox is AM Talk radio with pictures. Its reporting is quite good, though. I always use a Fox source when posting a news report. Pre-emptively, of course.
 
Michael Cole said:
Fox is AM Talk radio with pictures. Its reporting is quite good, though. I always use a Fox source when posting a news report. Pre-emptively, of course.
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Oh, I have no problem with Fox News as far as facts go. It is all the opinionated, sensationalized wording that gets in the way. Many are not even aware that they are having their own biased opinions reaffirmed as they watch, so they just nod along in agreement. I dislike when "news" becomes nothing more than reaffirmation to biased thinking. I mostly avoid CNN, MSNBC, and One America News Network for the same reason.
 
Barnacle said:
You'd like to see yourself as independent ... but you are not. You think calling yourself independent gives you an aura of superiority, being above left and right, being neutral, looking at things from various angles and perspectives, analyzing and coming to an unbiased opinion.

But you are none of it; you are like the rest of us: you pick a side and decide that is the only right one with only your opinion being the correct one.
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I don't have a side. Never have. Ever. I'm not a club member, either in politics or my private life. It's not my style.

I wasn't trying to hit a nerve. Surely you're not upset at my snark. It's all in good fun. Really.

I'm not superior to anyone. It is a word I despise. I once had to correct an idiot supervisor for saying she was my "superior." The only time you'll catch me using that word is with lakes and strains of weed. Your characterization of me couldn't be more off the mark.

McCain in 2008
Obama in 2012

So tell me again how I pick a side and stay there?

(Don't be so defensive. If you want to be all the way over there on the right, it's a free country. Knock yourself out. That doesn't make you superior or inferior to anyone, and if I gave you that impression, I apologize.)

My point stands, though. Extremism is what has torn the country apart.
 
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What a very sad story. A useless murder. We see them happening everyday. We see suicides mounting everyday. My suggestion is to do some soul searching and figure out why.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Are you implying that this was a black lives matter killing then? Explain why please...
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Uh no, I think I clearly stated the opposite. The shooter is responsible for his crime. Not BLM the organization, and not the millions of loosely affiliated people protesting for police reform. To call it a "BLM killing" is a disgusting attempt to capitalize on a tragedy to slander political opponents
 
poweRob said:
What does this have to do with the BLM movement?
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Police haven't been able to determine if the shooting was linked to the argument, but the argument was definitely an argument caused by a racial slur used by one of the victim's friends, and then it was "Black Lives Matter" and "All Lives Matter," and both pulled guns so they thought better of it and all walked away. But as soon as the group got to the bridge, there were shots from somewhere. A little coincidental? There was no attempt at robbery. But since they don't know for sure who did it, we can always wish it wasn't a racially involved shooting.

Indiana woman shot, killed after argument with Black Lives Matter supporters, family says | Fox News
 
MaryP said:
Police haven't been able to determine if the shooting was linked to the argument, but the argument was definitely an argument caused by a racial slur used by one of the victim's friends, and then it was "Black Lives Matter" and "All Lives Matter," and both pulled guns so they thought better of it and all walked away. But as soon as the group got to the bridge, there were shots from somewhere. A little coincidental? There was no attempt at robbery. But since they don't know for sure who did it, we can always wish it wasn't a racially involved shooting.

Indiana woman shot, killed after argument with Black Lives Matter supporters, family says | Fox News
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There were two other people with the victims according to the report. What have they said? There's more to this story, I think. We have no idea what actually happened.

There's a disclaimer in the first sentence of the article:

An Indiana woman was fatally shot earlier this month following an alleged argument between her family and a group of Black Lives Matter supporters, her family says.
 
Mr Person said:
Do you accept personal responsibility for the right winger who drove into a crowd in Charlottesville?
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Refresh my memory. Was that the idiot white nationalist who retaliated against Antifa idiots who had clubs and bats-- and so he ran over them with his car?

Yeah, bad things happen when idiots on all sides get together and decide to have a "party". What does that have to do with the member you are calling out here? Because unless YOU believe YOU need to take responsibility for the burning and looting done in the name of the so called "blm movement', then don't attempt to apply selective outrage and unequal accountability.
 
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