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GOP's Habitually Poor Economy

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OK, I've been working since about 1981. Through the Reagan years, I was pretty much a working college student earning a couple degrees. The economy during those years was never really booming. Many say those were tough times. I tend to agree--Double Dip recession ring a bell?

The Bush years were not much better. Another recession hit, IIRC. Not a deep one, but it was one bad enough to make George I a one-termer.

Clinton years, on the other hand, were awesome! Everyone got raises, and jobs were plentiful. And, then came the disaster of the second Bush presidency: 8 pretty crummy years capped off by the worst recession since the depression. The stretch from 2006 though 2008 was the first time I actually worried that I might be out of a job.

Obama years, like those of Clinton, saw much growth. Raises were plentiful and job prospects blossomed. I made up for all the lost time during the W man's fiasco. And, now...

Trump!

I doubt many would argue we are in the midst of the worst economy in our lifetimes. A complete failure in leadership is the root cause, IMO. From COVID response to developing a business strategy that works for the global economy, the guy has been a disaster. And, now...with a majority of our largest states going through another wave of infections, deaths and soon to be announced closings--where will we be in six months?
 
It is just because Republicans prefer bubble and pop economics, over an sense of sound fiscal responsibility reasoning.
 
A little-known quote from Donald Trump (2004): “I’ve been around for a long time and it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans.”

And his assumption was correct. The economy has done better overall under Democrats. So why do Americans prefer Republicans when it comes to handling the economy? IMO, it's the marketing and Democrats are terrible at marketing.
 
Geoist said:
A little-known quote from Donald Trump (2004): “I’ve been around for a long time and it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans.”

And his assumption was correct. The economy has done better overall under Democrats. So why do Americans prefer Republicans when it comes to handling the economy? IMO, it's the marketing and Democrats are terrible at marketing.
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The Economy Under Democratic vs. Republican Presidents - Reports - United States Joint Economic Committee
 
for many of us who started professional work around 2000, raises haven't even kept up with inflation, and it has been a game of dodge the next recession. however, i'm glad to have a bit more job security than i used to have. in a red state, that's better than a raise, especially during a crash.
 
Geoist said:
A little-known quote from Donald Trump (2004): “I’ve been around for a long time and it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans.”

And his assumption was correct. The economy has done better overall under Democrats. So why do Americans prefer Republicans when it comes to handling the economy? IMO, it's the marketing and Democrats are terrible at marketing.
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Yep. Dems don’t have Fox like propaganda arms. Left leaning journalists still do their jobs. Case in point: stagflation. Everyone knows the term and correctly ties that to Jimmy Carter, proving that “lefty” journalists were honest.

Today?

We have the worst case of stagflation ever. Costs are soaring and growth is a joke. But no one is coining a similar term to pin on the guy responsible. Fox still lies and pretends all would be well if not for Democrats. Meanwhile, the Left is too busy writing about other things, like death and destruction, to focus on our dying economy. Maybe they’ll kick that horse after it is dead.
 
calamity said:
OK, I've been working since about 1981. Through the Reagan years, I was pretty much a working college student earning a couple degrees. The economy during those years was never really booming. Many say those were tough times. I tend to agree--Double Dip recession ring a bell?

The Bush years were not much better. Another recession hit, IIRC. Not a deep one, but it was one bad enough to make George I a one-termer.

Clinton years, on the other hand, were awesome! Everyone got raises, and jobs were plentiful. And, then came the disaster of the second Bush presidency: 8 pretty crummy years capped off by the worst recession since the depression. The stretch from 2006 though 2008 was the first time I actually worried that I might be out of a job.

Obama years, like those of Clinton, saw much growth. Raises were plentiful and job prospects blossomed. I made up for all the lost time during the W man's fiasco. And, now...

Trump!

I doubt many would argue we are in the midst of the worst economy in our lifetimes. A complete failure in leadership is the root cause, IMO. From COVID response to developing a business strategy that works for the global economy, the guy has been a disaster. And, now...with a majority of our largest states going through another wave of infections, deaths and soon to be announced closings--where will we be in six months?
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Often times I see a major issue in that people assume micro and macro economics are the same thing and do not recognize the emergent behaviours of complex systems. Supply and demand are true, but when you have tens of billions of interactions in a large population and over time, weirdnesses can occur that need to be addressed that can destabilize the whole system.

Liberals tends to understand that fact.
 
OrphanSlug said:
It is just because Republicans prefer bubble and pop economics, over an sense of sound fiscal responsibility reasoning.
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Yep.

"Fill this pinata with your retirement money. You do not get a turn with the stick."
 
The Reagan economy felt good because of massive government stimulus. US government debt as a % of GDP increased the most under Reagan than any other president after WW2. He was a borrow and spend president.
 
Now- if all you can connect the dots and tell us specifically which economic policies of these Democrats created all these great economic results- that would be helpful!

( Except Calamity- please don't respond-you have nothing useful to add)
 
KLATTU said:
Now- if all you can connect the dots and tell us specifically which economic policies of these Democrats created all these great economic results- that would be helpful!

( Except Calamity- please don't respond-you have nothing useful to add)
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Why should calamity do that for you? All you'll do is poo poo the facts and dismiss them like you are doing with the original post, dismissing it as false unless you see specific policies. The gop base defends their leadership no matter how wrong they may be. Sad. It's tough to argue against facts but feel free if it makes you feel better.
 
bongsaway said:
Whyer.
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The request was:
"Now- if all you can connect the dots and tell us specifically which economic policies of these Democrats created all these great economic results- that would be helpful!"
 
KLATTU said:
The request was:
"Now- if all you can connect the dots and tell us specifically which economic policies of these Democrats created all these great economic results- that would be helpful!"
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Yes, Democrats are not leading retarded people like Republicans. Glad I can help.
 
KLATTU said:
The request was:
"Now- if all you can connect the dots and tell us specifically which economic policies of these Democrats created all these great economic results- that would be helpful!"
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Helpful how? We went to the moon in 1969, do you need the specifics to know it happened? Your 'request' is just another try at diversion.
 
bongsaway said:
Helpful how? We went to the moon in 1969, do you need the specifics to know it happened? Your 'request' is just another try at diversion.
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Watch. He's going to give Nixon credit for that. :lol:
 
Leftists in this thread are fall down funny.

It’s Monty Pythonesque stuff... but if you want to believe your delusions...

PS. yes spending increased... because that’s what Democrats in Congress do... as well as crippling our military... which has to be rebuilt after your reigns of error.
 
zimmer said:
Leftists in this thread are fall down funny.

It’s Monty Pythonesque stuff... but if you want to believe your delusions...
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Ah, the irony
 
bongsaway said:
Helpful how? We went to the moon in 1969, do you need the specifics to know it happened? Your 'request' is just another try at diversion.
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(speaking of diversions....)
So that's twice you didn't answer.Wanna try agin?
 
KLATTU said:
(speaking of diversions....)
So that's twice you didn't answer.Wanna try agin?
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He did answer. You can't blame him for your lack of understanding.
 
calamity said:
He did answer. You can't blame him for your lack of understanding.
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You were politely asked not to respond for the very reason that has proved me correct.
 
KLATTU said:
You were politely asked not to respond for the very reason that has proved me correct.
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Yes, you do not understand what you are told. We've been here before.
 
KLATTU said:
(speaking of diversions....)
So that's twice you didn't answer.Wanna try agin?
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Your assinine question needs no answering, it's a fact, the economy is better under dems and the dems also increase the debt not as much as republicans when in power. What are you arguing about?

It's like two people on a beach and watching the tide rising and yet one person denies it's rising. You connect the dots, it's your denial.
 
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