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BLM Philadelphia leader proposes five-year plan to abolish police

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Black Lives Matter Philadelphia leader proposes five-year plan to abolish police | foxnews.com

BLM Philadelphia chapter leader says community is safer without police, needs five years to build alternatives​

The Philadelphia arm of the Black Lives Matter movement has called for the "complete abolition" of the police department in five years as well as the scrapping of military bases abroad.


For more than a month, in the aftermath of George Floyd's death, the Black Lives Matter (BLM) movement has called for sweeping changes across the country in the bid to end racial injustices. At the heart of the debate is the campaign to defund – or dismantle – police departments.

And according to BLM Philadelphia representative and activist YahNé Ndgo, the chapter has developed a five-year plan to do just that.

"One of the things that we are demanding over five years is the complete abolition. We don't want to see any police in our community," Ndgo told Fox News in an interview Tuesday. "Over the course of those five years, it gives time for the community to begin to build what is needed. We aren't looking to leave any kind of vacancy around the issue of safety."
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As I've stated previously, BLM is NOT about police reform; they are working towards abolition. Democrats, liberals, and the media are hiding BLM's core message in the hopes that they can change the narrative or wish it away after November.

The bottom line is democrats are lying. The media is lying. The left in these forums are lying.

BLM wants to abolish the police. Stop lying about it. Democrats are negotiating with trained Marxist terrorists who are threatening violence if they don't get their way.
 
For example, from the article above:

She said when BLM has called for these changes, they are presented with government promises she calls a sort of "smoke and mirrors."

"(The administration wants) to come across as if (they are) responding to the demands that people are making, but they're not genuine responses," Ngdo said. "An example is one of (our) demands to decrease the police budget."
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Somebody lying? Do you believe they are negotiating with the GOP? Conservatives? Trump?

Of course not. She's talking about local democrat leaders. They're lying to her. They've BEEN lying for 50 years.

They're STILL lying. And so is the media.
 
Schism said:
Black Lives Matter Philadelphia leader proposes five-year plan to abolish police | foxnews.com



As I've stated previously, BLM is NOT about police reform; they are working towards abolition. Democrats, liberals, and the media are hiding BLM's core message in the hopes that they can change the narrative or wish it away after November.

The bottom line is democrats are lying. The media is lying. The left in these forums are lying.

BLM wants to abolish the police. Stop lying about it. Democrats are negotiating with trained Marxist terrorists who are threatening violence if they don't get their way.
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Looking forward to your source for your last claim.
 
mrjurrs said:
Looking forward to your source for your last claim.
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Before I embarrass you with a wall of links, I suggest you use the googles.

If you still want to be humiliated, come back and demand a citation.
 
Schism said:
Black Lives Matter Philadelphia leader proposes five-year plan to abolish police | foxnews.com



As I've stated previously, BLM is NOT about police reform; they are working towards abolition. Democrats, liberals, and the media are hiding BLM's core message in the hopes that they can change the narrative or wish it away after November.

The bottom line is democrats are lying. The media is lying. The left in these forums are lying.

BLM wants to abolish the police. Stop lying about it. Democrats are negotiating with trained Marxist terrorists who are threatening violence if they don't get their way.
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We aren't looking to leave any kind of vacancy around the issue of safety."
I'd be real interested in knowing how they plan to do that. It didn't work so well in CHOP, did it? If the people who committed those murders are known to the activists (which they probably are), they aren't telling the police about it. That means they either took justice into their own hands, or they are completely avoiding the justice system. No court, no prison. What takes its place so that person doesn't do it to someone else next week? If they figured that out for a small group such as CHOP, how do they expand that to an entire city?

I never thought Marxists were against law enforcement. In fact, I always thought they were top heavy in that category. This isn't part of a Marxist agenda--it's an anarchist agenda, and it will never ever work because humans!
 
MaryP said:
We aren't looking to leave any kind of vacancy around the issue of safety."
I'd be real interested in knowing how they plan to do that. It didn't work so well in CHOP, did it? If the people who committed those murders are known to the activists (which they probably are), they aren't telling the police about it. That means they either took justice into their own hands, or they are completely avoiding the justice system. No court, no prison. What takes its place so that person doesn't do it to someone else next week? If they figured that out for a small group such as CHOP, how do they expand that to an entire city?

I never thought Marxists were against law enforcement. In fact, I always thought they were top heavy in that category. This isn't part of a Marxist agenda--it's an anarchist agenda, and it will never ever work because humans!
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A black militia already exists. For now, all sides claim they aren't affiliated with, and are separate from BLM; but I suspect that is temporary. I predict we will be introduced to their plan to use the black militia (NFAK) as security pretty soon. Democrats are idiots for trying to appease these people.

Armed Black Militia Challenges White Nationalists at Georgia's Stone Mountain Park | www.newsweek.com

 
MaryP said:
We aren't looking to leave any kind of vacancy around the issue of safety."
I'd be real interested in knowing how they plan to do that. It didn't work so well in CHOP, did it? If the people who committed those murders are known to the activists (which they probably are), they aren't telling the police about it. That means they either took justice into their own hands, or they are completely avoiding the justice system. No court, no prison. What takes its place so that person doesn't do it to someone else next week? If they figured that out for a small group such as CHOP, how do they expand that to an entire city?

I never thought Marxists were against law enforcement. In fact, I always thought they were top heavy in that category. This isn't part of a Marxist agenda--it's an anarchist agenda, and it will never ever work because humans!
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CHOP should have been a learning experience for those people. They brought in a militia to provide security, but nothing could be done about violent crime because of the standard they were held to and the area was eventually overrun by what one militia member referred to as “gangbangers.” There’s no security or justice for anyone in the system they want to set up.
 
Schism said:
A black militia already exists. For now, all sides claim they aren't affiliated with, and are separate from BLM; but I suspect that is temporary. I predict we will be introduced to their plan to use the black militia (NFAK) as security pretty soon. Democrats are idiots for trying to appease these people.

Armed Black Militia Challenges White Nationalists at Georgia's Stone Mountain Park | www.newsweek.com

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I predicted this years ago. Black people arm up like all the Y'allqaeda dip****s and right wingers would immediately start freaking out over armed citizens defending themselves. They keep this up, suddenly assault weapons bans will be back in style.
 
Napoleon said:
CHOP should have been a learning experience for those people. They brought in a militia to provide security, but nothing could be done about violent crime because of the standard they were held to and the area was eventually overrun by what one militia member referred to as “gangbangers.” There’s no security or justice for anyone in the system they want to set up.
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They brought in a militia to provide security,
Thanks for the update. Just like any town or city anywhere, even when there are cops, they can't be everywhere, every minute. Things will still happen, but it really bugs me that after MURDER, they still would not cooperate with the police. Did the "militia" they hired do an investigation? I agree with you it all sounds like a pretty private system run by an elite few, if there was a "system" at all, and that leads to tyranny, not freedom.
 
MaryP said:
They brought in a militia to provide security,
Thanks for the update. Just like any town or city anywhere, even when there are cops, they can't be everywhere, every minute. Things will still happen, but it really bugs me that after MURDER, they still would not cooperate with the police. Did the "militia" they hired do an investigation? I agree with you it all sounds like a pretty private system run by an elite few, if there was a "system" at all, and that leads to tyranny, not freedom.
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One of the militia members did an interview with CNN and, according to him, they weren’t allowed to use any degree of force except in cases where a person’s life was at risk. That meant they had to witness violent crime but could do nothing to stop it or apprehend the people involved. There were no investigations and none of them wanted to endanger their own safety to secure the safety of others. They were more or less just props to deter law enforcement and white supremacists from the area. Inside, it was more or less anarchy with criminal gangs running the streets.
 
Napoleon said:
One of the militia members did an interview with CNN and, according to him, they weren’t allowed to use any degree of force except in cases where a person’s life was at risk. That meant they had to witness violent crime but could do nothing to stop it or apprehend the people involved. There were no investigations and none of them wanted to endanger their own safety to secure the safety of others. They were more or less just props to deter law enforcement and white supremacists from the area. Inside, it was more or less anarchy with criminal gangs running the streets.
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Thank you! I didn't see that.

This will sound naive, I'm sure, but why would the gangs be interested in CHOP? I never thought of them as being political types. Sure, you gotta have your drug dealers in and out; life goes on. But running the streets? Is that what the militia guy said, or is that what you're saying?
 
MaryP said:
Thank you! I didn't see that.

This will sound naive, I'm sure, but why would the gangs be interested in CHOP? I never thought of them as being political types. Sure, you gotta have your drug dealers in and out; life goes on. But running the streets? Is that what the militia guy said, or is that what you're saying?
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I think any criminal organization would be very interested in 6 city blocks off limits to police. That’s prime real estate and they weren’t there for political reasons. They’re probably responsible for the reports from local business owners in the zone that armed people were demanding “protection money” from them along with the shootings, rapes, etc.
 
Schism said:
There's a Prophet in our midst.
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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
 
Schism said:
Black Lives Matter Philadelphia leader proposes five-year plan to abolish police | foxnews.com



As I've stated previously, BLM is NOT about police reform; they are working towards abolition. Democrats, liberals, and the media are hiding BLM's core message in the hopes that they can change the narrative or wish it away after November.

The bottom line is democrats are lying. The media is lying. The left in these forums are lying.

BLM wants to abolish the police. Stop lying about it. Democrats are negotiating with trained Marxist terrorists who are threatening violence if they don't get their way.
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And watch those cities turn into Mogadishu. Oh, isn't that Minneapolis's nickname?
 
Aurora said:
And watch those cities turn into Mogadishu. Oh, isn't that Minneapolis's nickname?
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Mogadishu was liberated a decade ago.
 
"There are plenty of people who have been murdered as a result of mental health checks. The police came, and then they murdered the person, even though the person was acting erratically, which is what you would expect of a person who's having a mental health crisis," Ndgo said. "Domestic confrontations are also things that police are often called for. And these are kinds of situations that can be handled by different kinds of professionals. As it relates to more violent crime, there would still be trained individuals who are prepared to handle those kinds of situations."

"Quite often, if there is violence happening, by the time the police arrive, that has already occurred and particularly in poor neighborhoods and in black and brown communities. So the police are not really a resource for preventing that kind of crime from happening. Just a response," she explained.
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Sounds more like an overhaul than a total abolishment. I agree with her point on mental health cases handled by the police. My brother was shot by the cops while having a bad paranoid schizophrenic episode. They are typically not well trained to handle people like that.
 
MaryP said:
We aren't looking to leave any kind of vacancy around the issue of safety."
I'd be real interested in knowing how they plan to do that. It didn't work so well in CHOP, did it? If the people who committed those murders are known to the activists (which they probably are), they aren't telling the police about it. That means they either took justice into their own hands, or they are completely avoiding the justice system. No court, no prison. What takes its place so that person doesn't do it to someone else next week? If they figured that out for a small group such as CHOP, how do they expand that to an entire city?

I never thought Marxists were against law enforcement. In fact, I always thought they were top heavy in that category. This isn't part of a Marxist agenda--it's an anarchist agenda, and it will never ever work because humans!
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Your asking irrational people for rational and logical actions.
it is an anarchist agenda for sure.
 
Filthydelphia will get more filthy.

Note to self: Don't visit Philly
 
Binary_Digit said:
Sounds more like an overhaul than a total abolishment
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He said "Complete abolition".

Do I need to post the dictionary definition of the word "abolition" like we have been posting the definition of "defund" to those who are less educated about such easy to understand words?
 
Roadvirus said:
He said "Complete abolition".

Do I need to post the dictionary definition of the word "abolition" like we have been posting the definition of "defund" to those who are less educated about such easy to understand words?
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"As it relates to more violent crime, there would still be trained individuals who are prepared to handle those kinds of situations."
 
Aurora said:
Somalia is barely considered a functioning country.
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You can't be ignorant of the past decade of Somalian history including its liberation in 2011 and development since and think you're making a point. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. You and the President. It's probably his dumbass bs that you have to thank for your own misinformation.
 
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