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US Incarceration Rates

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Embarrassing, to put it in a nutshell.

Oklahoma now has the highest incarceration rate in the U.S., unseating Louisiana from its long-held position as “the world’s prison capital.” By comparison, states like New York and Massachusetts appear progressive, but even these states lock people up at higher rates than nearly every other country on earth. Compared to the rest of the world, every U.S. state relies too heavily on prisons and jails to respond to crime.
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And, the worst states are usually the former Confederate ones. Besides OK and LA, we have MS, AL, GA, Arkansas and Texas. Arizona, not exactly one of your more progressive states follows--odds are they and OK would have been slave states, if they were states back then.

We have more prisoners per capita than Cuba!

States of Incarceration: The Global Context 2018 | Prison Policy Initiative.

So, next time someone tells you about Freedom, give them the "yeah, but..." on that.
 
calamity said:
Embarrassing, to put it in a nutshell.



And, the worst states are usually the former Confederate ones. Besides OK and LA, we have MS, AL, GA, Arkansas and Texas. Arizona, not exactly one of your more progressive states follows--odds are they and OK would have been slave states, if they were states back then.

We have more prisoners per capita than Cuba!

States of Incarceration: The Global Context 2018 | Prison Policy Initiative.

So, next time someone tells you about Freedom, give them the "yeah, but..." on that.
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If people commit crimes the should be in prison.

Unless they are nonviolent white collar criminals.
 
business requires problems, serious ones like this

we need to do something about private prisons, they negatively effect society
 
Crime is segregated in America. Black on black and white on white.


If we stop arresting black men for their crimes, it will hurt the black community that they prey on.
 
There are 1.2 million violent crimes committed every year.

Pissing yourself over incarceration rates wont change the facts.
 
This has "Bait thread" written all over it.

You might as well come out and admit it, Calamity.
 
Why do we have so much more crime than other countries like the US?
 
calamity said:
Embarrassing, to put it in a nutshell.



And, the worst states are usually the former Confederate ones. Besides OK and LA, we have MS, AL, GA, Arkansas and Texas. Arizona, not exactly one of your more progressive states follows--odds are they and OK would have been slave states, if they were states back then.

We have more prisoners per capita than Cuba!

States of Incarceration: The Global Context 2018 | Prison Policy Initiative.

So, next time someone tells you about Freedom, give them the "yeah, but..." on that.
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If the war on drugs was decriminalized and made into a mental and social health matter, there would be tens of thousands of police and corrections officers out of a job.

No surprise, they advocate against it and do all they can to instigate situations involving simple drug possession to justify their presence.
 
MovingPictures said:
If the war on drugs was decriminalized and made into a mental and social health matter, there would be tens of thousands of police and corrections officers out of a job.

No surprise, they advocate against it and do all they can to instigate situations involving simple drug possession to justify their presence.
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Is that happening in states like Colorado?
Just asking, I dont know... but it would seem that it would be a good test case for your theory.

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TypicalRussian said:
business requires problems, serious ones like this

we need to do something about private prisons, they negatively effect society
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Only a tiny percentage of inmates in the U.S are held in private prisons what's the big deal?
 
Dayton3 said:
Only a tiny percentage of inmates in the U.S are held in private prisons what's the big deal?
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lots of things actually

there should be no profits in judicial system
 
Dayton3 said:
If people commit crimes the should be in prison.

Unless they are nonviolent white collar criminals.
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You're right. I'm glad we can agree that people like Madoff, twump and Milken should be publiced hanged.

Good talk!
 
Dayton3 said:
Why not? Even if profits are being made that doesn't change the laws or how they are enforced.
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of course it changes the laws! 5 billion in profits have some influence
 
Tanngrisnir said:
You're right. I'm glad we can agree that people like Madoff, twump and Milken should be publiced hanged.

Good talk!
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No. They should pay restitution, be fined and receive home detention monitored by those anklet things.
 
MovingPictures said:
If the war on drugs was decriminalized and made into a mental and social health matter, there would be tens of thousands of police and corrections officers out of a job.

No surprise, they advocate against it and do all they can to instigate situations involving simple drug possession to justify their presence.
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What's stopping the democrats of building mental health hospitals in the communities they've governed for decades?

You realize that San Fransico and L.A. just let them fend for themselves on the street and eat from garbage cans, right?

Tell me how Trump prevents Seattle from helping their mentally ill residents?

I can't wait to see the non-responses not line up and not post.
 
Dayton3 said:
If people commit crimes the should be in prison.

Unless they are nonviolent white collar criminals.
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Great idea

Steal 1 billion dollars, and stay out jail,

Steal 1000 dollars and go to jail
 
Dayton3 said:
If people commit crimes the should be in prison.

Unless they are nonviolent white collar criminals.
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So I guess more people commit crimes in Oklahoma than any other place on earth. Amazing, isn’t it
 
Incarcerate to the point that the US is #1 and most US States beat out other nations... its the Republican way!
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Great idea

Steal 1 billion dollars, and stay out jail,

Steal 1000 dollars and go to jail
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I don't worry about my wife and daughter being in a room with some guy who conns people out of millions of dollars.

I do worry about my wife and daughter being in a room with a guy who steals 1,000 dollars from a convenience store with a gun.
 
Dayton3 said:
If people commit crimes the should be in prison.

Unless they are nonviolent white collar criminals.
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If I didn't know better, I would have credited you with making some very good use of sarcasm. Unfortunately, I suspect you are dead serious.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Great idea

Steal 1 billion dollars, and stay out jail,

Steal 1000 dollars and go to jail
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Sell powder coke to Wall Street, get slap on wrist, if that. Sell a piece of crack on Main Street, do thirty years.

Same drug.
 
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