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The Lincoln Project

noonereal said:
Who is "you guys?"

Dude, you are posting as a mad Trumpet. No reason, no wisdom, just hate fulled insanity.
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Common sense always sounds like insanity to the left. That's why they are dangerous.
 
HennyBogan said:
That would be my guess, swing voters may be influenced but once again, people hate being told what to do, it is in our nature to say **** you to clowns telling us what to do.
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Speaking only for yourself and pretending you speak for everyone again?
There are some basic elemental truths that are universal and as such, those truths form the foundation for any modern democracy.

Things like "doing your part" are essential and do not present as harm to the spirit of individualism and independence, but rather, serve as a form of preservation of the basic need for survival and a little thing in the Constitution known as the general Welfare.

Hard as it may be to believe, that is not about blocks of cheese and vouchers for poor people, it's about preserving the foundations for survival of society and keeping it free from harm.

It sounds more like you're a fan of balkanization and sovereign citizenry.
 
veritas1 said:
He's nothing but a tool. Do you seriously think this fool can buck the far left powers in the party? He can't and won't.
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I have to say that marshmallow Biden will not oppose a far-left movement within the party if they come to power.
 
grip said:
Crazy talk, I love it! :lol:

Now take the soup bowl off your head.
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You're the one who can't dispute anything being said by the Lincoln Project or else you would have.
Instead you're painting them as evil.
All hail the Cult of Trump!
 
veritas1 said:
He's nothing but a tool. Do you seriously think this fool can buck the far left powers in the party? He can't and won't.
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No more than the fool Trump bucks the far right powers in the party.

Though neither party is really run by the far extremes in its power structure. The parties are status quo Republocrat, Biden will run his mouth now, but in the end it's not going to be any different from Clinton down to Trump. Same ****, different day.
 
veritas1 said:
Oh looky, the typo police are out in force. If I spent all my time in here pointing out misspellings and incorrect grammar, I'd never have time for anything else.
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I merely took advantage of your typo to inject a little wit into my retort to your wholly unsubstantiated accusations. Seems that zoomed over your head but at least I did irk you, so I deem it a partial success.
 
grip said:
I agree that this is a wink and a nod to rebellious Republicans that want an excuse to jump ship for one election cycle. Trump is a Neocon to them.
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Oh hell no, go look at the neocons who signed on with the project and stop embarrassing yourself.
 
The Lincoln Project videos are very effective.

There are also other Republican groups running ads against Donald Trump. Also effective.
 
veritas1 said:
Biden is a mere front man. The real powers are the ones who will dictate policy. If Biden would somehow get in the way, they'd quickly figure out how to get rid of him and put in whoever the radical VP is.
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That's why Joe Biden will be a more successful president. He'll hire people who are experts in their fields and won't worry about them outshining him, like Trump does.


That's why Trump has failed at everything except for the tax cuts for the rich, because he can't tolerate employees who outshine him. Who are more knowledgeable and capable.
 
Ikari said:
No more than the fool Trump bucks the far right powers in the party.

Though neither party is really run by the far extremes in its power structure. The parties are status quo Republocrat, Biden will run his mouth now, but in the end it's not going to be any different from Clinton down to Trump. Same ****, different day.
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The Kochs and most of the establishment conservatives are either lukewarm on Trump or oppose him outright. He doesn't get his support from them but from ordinary people who are tired of getting the shaft from government. If Trump had to depend on establishment types to win, he'd never have beaten Hillary.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
You're the one who can't dispute anything being said by the Lincoln Project or else you would have.
Instead you're painting them as evil.
All hail the Cult of Trump!
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I said their ads were evil, and they are. I did NOT say that TLP is evil. That's some cuckoo stuff you made up in your own head.

You can label me whatever you want, as long as you do it like a rubber-band and make it snappy.
 
Jonsa said:
I merely took advantage of your typo to inject a little wit into my retort to your wholly unsubstantiated accusations. Seems that zoomed over your head but at least I did irk you, so I deem it a partial success.
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If you want substantiation for what I said, all you need to do is watch Biden and listen to the Dems for a few days.
 
The Lincoln project is nothing more than greedy deep staters and Democrats. They spew the same BS the DNC does. Der. Took about 10 seconds to figure that out.

And veritas1 is right, Biden is just a figurehead. The people behind the scenes that will run him are completely unacceptable to the American voter and they know it.
 
swing_voter said:
That's why Joe Biden will be a more successful president. He'll hire people who are experts in their fields and won't worry about them outshining him, like Trump does.


That's why Trump has failed at everything except for the tax cuts for the rich, because he can't tolerate employees who outshine him. Who are more knowledgeable and capable.
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How can having record employment equal failure? That's what we had before China loosed the pandemic. Claims of Trump failing are simply nonsensical.
 
grip said:
A bigger gov or more debt is already baked in the cake since the pandemic economic fallout. Though Trump will get blamed, any POTUS would've had to support the Fed rescue and stimulus. The problem with the GOP is that they financially support corporations more than average citizens.
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Yep, the donor class is going to be rewarded regardless of which (major) political party holds the the (temporary) majority in DC. The larger point is that the federal "budget" deficit (thus the national debt) has been increasing since 2014. Where the Lincoln Project is counter productive, IMHO, is that helping Biden to replace Trump is very likely to alter the balance (political slant?) of the SCOTUS which will outlast Trump by decades.
 
veritas1 said:
The Kochs and most of the establishment conservatives are either lukewarm on Trump or oppose him outright. He doesn't get his support from them but from ordinary people who are tired of getting the shaft from government. If Trump had to depend on establishment types to win, he'd never have beaten Hillary.
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I think many may rather Trump shut the **** up most of the time, as Trump is the status quo without brakes or filter. But they don't outright oppose him. There's a reason why folk like Graham and McConnell get behind him, they get what they want out of Trump, which is primarily SCOTUS picks. If he was bucking the system, he wouldn't be putting up choices that the GOP Status Quo endorsed.

Someone like Sanders would likely have bucked the system, which is why the DNC does all they can to suppress him. But someone like Trump? He's just the Corporate State with a loud mouth and penchant for trolling.
 
Ikari said:
...I think they missed that boat.
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Yep, but the electorate deserve more than a choice between the party for a bigger federal government and the party for a huge federal government.
 
Ikari said:
I think many may rather Trump shut the **** up most of the time, as Trump is the status quo without brakes or filter. But they don't outright oppose him. There's a reason why folk like Graham and McConnell get behind him, they get what they want out of Trump, which is primarily SCOTUS picks. If he was bucking the system, he wouldn't be putting up choices that the GOP Status Quo endorsed.

Someone like Sanders would likely have bucked the system, which is why the DNC does all they can to suppress him. But someone like Trump? He's just the Corporate State with a loud mouth and penchant for trolling.
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The establishment GOP is fine with conservative justices but that doesn't mean they like Trump or truly support him. Anybody who comes to town announcing a desire to drain the swamp, is never going to get wholehearted support from the longtime barnacles in DC.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Yep, but the electorate deserve more than a choice between the party for a bigger federal government and the party for a huge federal government.
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That's the only choice we'll ever get again. It is impossible to shrink the government at this point. The best we can hope for is slower growth.
 
veritas1 said:
The establishment GOP is fine with conservative justices but that doesn't mean they like Trump or truly support him. Anybody who comes to town announcing a desire to drain the swamp, is never going to get wholehearted support from the longtime barnacles in DC.
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Yeah, he said he'd "drain the swamp", but he didn't really. He just filled in a different swamp, one that the GOP establishment isn't really opposed to.

Now if Trump's numbers remain low closer to November, you may see more coming out against him because the GOP establishment doesn't want to wholesale lose power, and if they can limit losses by distancing themselves from Trump, they will. But if his numbers come up, they'll all still be behind him. So long as he serves the Party, they'll back him.
 
Responding to the question asked in the OP, "Are these Ads [sic] a serious problem for the Trump campaign?", I would suggest that President of the United States of America Donald Trump, through his own statements and tweets, represents a larger threat.

Regards, stay safe 'n well.
 
grip said:
I said their ads were evil, and they are. I did NOT say that TLP is evil. That's some cuckoo stuff you made up in your own head.

You can label me whatever you want, as long as you do it like a rubber-band and make it snappy.
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That's different.
Here's your actual quote.

grip said:
They are pretty evil in nature but may be effective with swing voters?
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Ikari said:
"Warmed over Marxism"? He's running against Biden. That's just status quo Republocrat bull****.

lol

"Warmed over Marxism"....man, I think what most people don't want is the far-right's overused chicken little nonsense.
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That's all they have
 
haymarket said:
The ads from The Lincoln Project are very very effective. I love each one. If the Dems were smart, they would start subsidizing TLP and even hire them to do a campaign for Biden.
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LP doing ads for Biden? Hmmmmm...
I can definitely say that Biden's campaign had better find themselves some equally talented people, that's for sure.
 
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