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Why shut down everything when more than 96 percent survive (virus)

countryboy said:
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Yes, we know you're yawning. That's why the infection rate in trump states is over three times higher than in blue states.
 
2distracted said:
Sorry, but the libs are being, as always, irrational and worse, political...

I am 99 percent sure that the percentage who don't survive is even much lower than 4 percent... But I am using the lib,s figures

There have been tests on healthy ppl that show antibodies to the virus in something like 20 percent of those tested which means they had the virus and recovered before they even knew they had it...which means it is closer to half of a percent...not 4 or 5 percent who die

Elite dems couldn't care less if the economy goes into the ditch as the result ofc them instilling and propogating fear over this virus..

In fact, I say they want the economy to be as bad as possible so Trump looks bad

.Politics rules with these idiots
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Suppose, in a worst-case scenario, that every US citizen gets the coronavirus. Also suppose that the OP writer's BS claim of an 0.5% mortality rate were actually correct.

328 million times 0.5% is 1.64 million.

2distracted has stated in no uncertain terms that he does not have a problem with up to 1.64 million people dying an excruciatingly painful death.

And some people wonder why trump is described as the leader of a death cult.
 
Questerr said:
Is dying the only negative consequence of Covid? It has no other negative effects that are detrimental to society?
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A shattered economy comes to mind. Ironically, if the US descends into bankruptcy then those who forced the needless shutdowns will find themselves with serious cuts in pay or out of work themselves and then they will curse the day they supported a prolonged shutdown.
 
2distracted said:
Sorry, but the libs are being, as always, irrational and worse, political...

I am 99 percent sure that the percentage who don't survive is even much lower than 4 percent... But I am using the lib,s figures

There have been tests on healthy ppl that show antibodies to the virus in something like 20 percent of those tested which means they had the virus and recovered before they even knew they had it...which means it is closer to half of a percent...not 4 or 5 percent who die

Elite dems couldn't care less if the economy goes into the ditch as the result ofc them instilling and propogating fear over this virus..

In fact, I say they want the economy to be as bad as possible so Trump looks bad

.Politics rules with these idiots
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Oh yes, the democrats and MSM will keep this going all the way to November. All of this "never ending" politicizing events, or just flat out making things up to make Trump look bad, should be remembered by the Voters of this country.....do you really want leaders who act worse than teenage gossipers?
 
redbeer said:
Oh yes, the democrats and MSM will keep this going all the way to November. All of this "never ending" politicizing events, or just flat out making things up to make Trump look bad, should be remembered by the Voters of this country.....do you really want leaders who act worse than teenage gossipers?
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The problem is going to still be there after November unless we get to a vaccine in a blisteringly short order.

It's likely to get worse in the colder months considering it is still going strong in July.

And it will be there no matter who is elected.
 
2distracted said:
Sorry, but the libs are being, as always, irrational and worse, political...

I am 99 percent sure that the percentage who don't survive is even much lower than 4 percent... But I am using the lib,s figures

There have been tests on healthy ppl that show antibodies to the virus in something like 20 percent of those tested which means they had the virus and recovered before they even knew they had it...which means it is closer to half of a percent...not 4 or 5 percent who die

Elite dems couldn't care less if the economy goes into the ditch as the result ofc them instilling and propogating fear over this virus..

In fact, I say they want the economy to be as bad as possible so Trump looks bad

.Politics rules with these idiots
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What makes you think that 96% would survive if we didn't "shut everything down" (not that we actually did that)?

By the way, it's more like 1%, and 1% of the population of the United States is 3.3 million people. Are you willing to risk that so you can go to bars this summer?
 
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2distracted said:
Sorry, but the libs are being, as always, irrational and worse, political...

I am 99 percent sure that the percentage who don't survive is even much lower than 4 percent... But I am using the lib,s figures

There have been tests on healthy ppl that show antibodies to the virus in something like 20 percent of those tested which means they had the virus and recovered before they even knew they had it...which means it is closer to half of a percent...not 4 or 5 percent who die

Elite dems couldn't care less if the economy goes into the ditch as the result ofc them instilling and propogating fear over this virus..

In fact, I say they want the economy to be as bad as possible so Trump looks bad

.Politics rules with these idiots
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Love how this guy bitches about "Libs" being political and irrational...and then goes on to be completely political and irrational. Tots adorbs! :lol:
 
2distracted said:
Oh please

More hysteria

U must work for MSM
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You have no argument left, just juvenile trolling posts.

I hope you don't have to go through the uncertainty of having been exposed, scrambling to find a testing center that will get you in, and the long wait to get your results.

And, god forbid if you have to go to the hospital or the ICU.

You really need to stop acting like this is nothing. You fail to grasp the seriousness of this, instead, you make 4chan type trolling posts and open endless threads where you do nothing but spread crap.
 
Cardinal said:
I can't count the number of times a trump supporter will say that the death rate is "only" a certain low percentage (like, say, 2%), and when you tell them what that number actually is they say you're being hysterical.

I really don't think most of these people passed a single math course.
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Or, have ever learned empathy.
 
countryboy said:
Typical libthink. Are the millions of job losses being faked?
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So you don't understand or know the definition of everything. Thanks for playing.

BTW - that is the 1st proof of you posting intentional untruths.
 
dairyair said:
So you don't understand or know the definition of everything. Thanks for playing.

BTW - that is the 1st proof of you posting intentional untruths.
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I'm not playing. I'm right, you're wrong. That's why you are "playing", and can't actually refute anything I've said.
 
2distracted said:
Oh please

More hysteria

U must work for MSM
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No, I have a working brain, which I suggest most Trumpsters do not. Maybe you should do some research that goes beyond the Faux News station that you learn ll your propaganda from. You would learn what I have about the results of living beyond the covid infection. then tell my about hysteria. It thanks to people who think like you that we now have over 500 thousand new cases a day and going for 100 thousand.
 
2distracted said:
Sorry, but the libs are being, as always, irrational and worse, political...

I am 99 percent sure that the percentage who don't survive is even much lower than 4 percent... But I am using the lib,s figures

There have been tests on healthy ppl that show antibodies to the virus in something like 20 percent of those tested which means they had the virus and recovered before they even knew they had it...which means it is closer to half of a percent...not 4 or 5 percent who die

Elite dems couldn't care less if the economy goes into the ditch as the result ofc them instilling and propogating fear over this virus..

In fact, I say they want the economy to be as bad as possible so Trump looks bad

.Politics rules with these idiots
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Why follow health codes in restaurants when 99 percent of customers don't die from food poisoning?
 
2distracted said:
Sorry, but the libs are being, as always, irrational and worse, political...

I am 99 percent sure that the percentage who don't survive is even much lower than 4 percent... But I am using the lib,s figures

There have been tests on healthy ppl that show antibodies to the virus in something like 20 percent of those tested which means they had the virus and recovered before they even knew they had it...which means it is closer to half of a percent...not 4 or 5 percent who die

Elite dems couldn't care less if the economy goes into the ditch as the result ofc them instilling and propogating fear over this virus..

In fact, I say they want the economy to be as bad as possible so Trump looks bad

.Politics rules with these idiots
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As usual, you are doing an "excuse Trump" thread.

Why don't you get off the extreme and down to reality. You are saying that sacrificing 4% of the population is worthwhile so that the other 96% can survive economically but as cold as that thought is, that is not really the picture, is it?

The real picture is "unnecessary deaths". The entire world shut down for close to 2 months (just as we did) but now most everywhere they are reopening (just as you are wanting us to do). Hey, that is what makes sense given that everyone in the world is doing it and our economy is as important as all other world economies are and we don't need to fall behind! Therefore, I give you that point.

The difference comes in the "unnecessary deaths" category. The rest of the world in their re-openings have followed the pandemic guidelines and their re-openings have not lead to a spike in infections. Their re-openings have led to some additional deaths as any re-opening will realistic do. Nonetheless, our re-openings did not follow the pandemic guidelines and therefore we are seeing a huge spike in "unnecessary infections and unnecessary deaths".

It is evident to me that the truth is that Trump does not care about generating unnecessary deaths. He is doing what everyone else in the world is doing but doing it "rashly" instead of in a competent way where doing things the right way will prevent unnecessary deaths. His desire for proving he is competent and the best president possible so that he can get re-elected is causing him to throw caution to the wind, CDC guidelines out the window, and caring about people's health into the garbage can.

I mean, after all, he is trying to negate what is left of Obamacare, which is the only thing that is helping 20 million people during this pandemic stay alive and well, at a time that is the absolute worst time to do it. Do you think that shows caring for the health of the people?

That is what the Democrats are doing. They are not trying to put Trump in a bad position (he is doing that himself) but simply trying to prevent "unnecessary deaths" and time lost from occurring.

Evidently, since you put this post up and stated what you stated, you fully agree with what Trump is doing and have no thoughts yourself about preventing "unnecessary deaths" from occurring. It looks like you are as rash, as uncaring, and as incompetent as Trump is.

Puts you personally in the "gutter" category.
 
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50,000 people contracted the virus yesterday and the rate of infection is climbing. If only 2% die a weeks infections will result in 7000 deaths.

Rome burned while Nero fiddled.

AmeriCANs die while tRump golfs!

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Luther said:
YYeah....

Still not worth shutting down and imposing "self destruction" on our owns elves
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No “self destruction” necessary. There’s more than enough wealth in America for there to be a massive shutdown and for people to be cared for during that time.
 
countryboy said:
Good grief, you chicken littles have been shouting this nonsense from the beginning, and none of it ever came to pass. Shutting down actually does more harm to hospitals than not. Shutting down leaves all those "other life threatening diseases or injuries" untreated, and causes the hospitals to hemorrhage capital, putting them in jeopardy of shutting down permanently.

Coronavirus threatens survival of US rural hospitals on frontlines of crisis | World news | The Guardian
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Thank you for posting an excellent reason for us to eliminate for-profit healthcare.
 
marke said:
A shattered economy comes to mind. Ironically, if the US descends into bankruptcy then those who forced the needless shutdowns will find themselves with serious cuts in pay or out of work themselves and then they will curse the day they supported a prolonged shutdown.
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Billionaires have seen their wealth increase massively during this same period. Tax them and use the money to temporarily cover the expenses of the average American.
 
countryboy said:
Good grief, you chicken littles have been shouting this nonsense from the beginning, and none of it ever came to pass. Shutting down actually does more harm to hospitals than not. Shutting down leaves all those "other life threatening diseases or injuries" untreated, and causes the hospitals to hemorrhage capital, putting them in jeopardy of shutting down permanently.

Coronavirus threatens survival of US rural hospitals on frontlines of crisis | World news | The Guardian
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It is my FIRM belief that you didn't even read the article to cited, because it does not support your premise. In fact, quite the opposite.

Rural hospitals are already under severe financial strain, and the point of the article is that COVID patients may overwhelm the system. I worked in rural medicine, so I know the dynamics: too few patients, means too few resources, means inadequate capacity to respond to a crisis. A single multi-car accident can overwhelm their capacity, as I've seen firsthand.

You assert "Shutting down actually does more harm to hospitals than not." That's nonsense. Beyond nonsense, it's anti-factual. The point of shutting down, in general, is to slow the spread of the virus within a discrete community (State, local or national). That gives local health services breathing room to address their local crisis. I think you're conflating two different issues - imposing local distancing/mask mandates and suspending elective surgeries.

If you'd read the article, you'd see how it actually works in a crisis and why the people you're whining about are actually doing something to address the issue.
The response from Washington state officials was swift, Graham said. Within hours of raising his concerns, he was on the phone with Sue Birch, a former nurse who had spent decades living in rural Colorado and now runs Washington state’s healthcare authority.

Birch said she promised Graham that they would find a way to get the hospital through the crisis.

“We can talk about closures later,” she recalled telling him. “Right now, I need you holding my frontline.”
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Cardinal said:
I can't count the number of times a trump supporter will say that the death rate is "only" a certain low percentage (like, say, 2%), and when you tell them what that number actually is they say you're being hysterical.

I really don't think most of these people passed a single math course.
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Yeah, they passed them... on the way to a bar while playing hooky.
 
2distracted said:
Sorry, but the libs are being, as always, irrational and worse, political...

I am 99 percent sure that the percentage who don't survive is even much lower than 4 percent... But I am using the lib,s figures

There have been tests on healthy ppl that show antibodies to the virus in something like 20 percent of those tested which means they had the virus and recovered before they even knew they had it...which means it is closer to half of a percent...not 4 or 5 percent who die

Elite dems couldn't care less if the economy goes into the ditch as the result ofc them instilling and propogating fear over this virus..

In fact, I say they want the economy to be as bad as possible so Trump looks bad

.Politics rules with these idiots
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^ This person isn't pro life.

Bookmark this post to use if he comments on abortion.
 
Questerr said:
No “self destruction” necessary. There’s more than enough wealth in America for there to be a massive shutdown and for people to be cared for during that time.
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Communist
 
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