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Why are there so few black Republicans?

Nickyjo said:
And then they get somewhat better, as they have for centuries. Just what would republicans have done differently to produce different results? And, of course, why do blacks continue to vote for democrats?
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But they havent. In fact when things DO get better for black Americans is when they manage to LEAVE those rat infested ****holes. The rat infested ****holes get 'progressively' (there's some irony in there) worse.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
One thing I do respect you for is wearing your swastika tattoo on your face instead of trying to cover it up like the others.
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:lamo

Nothing says "holy ****...my arguments suck!" more than making idiotic nazi comments.
 
VanceMack said:
But they havent. In fact when things DO get better for black Americans is when they manage to LEAVE those rat infested ****holes. The rat infested ****holes get 'progressively' (there's some irony in there) worse.
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Is this the best you've got?
 
VanceMack said:
But they havent. In fact when things DO get better for black Americans is when they manage to LEAVE those rat infested ****holes. The rat infested ****holes get 'progressively' (there's some irony in there) worse.
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Ok, go to these places with your plan and tell residents to vote republican. Your plan to improve things would be?...
 
Felis Leo said:
And my answer to anyone who brings this up against Republicans is this: Lee Atwater is dead. He has been dead for almost thirty years, and the men who heeded his counsel are dead too.

The same as the FDR Democrats who kept quiet about lynching and Jim Crow Segregation in order to maintain their coalition with the Southern Democrats. They are dead too.

Let us learn to get past it and look at policies and principles. Because guess what? Both parties have been what we would call "structurally racist" in living memory.
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Karl Rove is still alive and he was mentored by Atwater and Segretti....and then Rove went on to mentor hundreds more Atwater and Segretti wannabes in the art of "dirty tricks" and now the internet and politics is full of them.
 
VanceMack said:
SO...**** the black American communities.

You couldnt better make my point if I wrote your comments for you.
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So all that outrage of yours can't really about the economic performance these "democrat-run sh-tholes" in general, because obviously we are both making the point that economically they are beating the pants off rural Trump country. You are just really concerned about the welfare of the African American community, am I right?
 
RabidAlpaca said:
That is exactly what she said. She said black people don't think for themselves, they mindlessly vote who they're told to by their parents.



No there isn't, but I'm happy for you to continue believing the Trump era has improved Republican appeal among black Americans. :lamo



We still haven't gotten a rational answer from the right and all the responses so far have been variants of argument 1) or 2).
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Please post the quote "black people don't think for themselves, they mindlessly vote who they're told to by their parents" otherwise, you're lying.
 
Josie said:
I think most people vote R or D blindly because that's what their parents did and their parents did and their parents did.
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:roll:


:doh
 
RabidAlpaca said:
That is exactly what she said. She said black people don't think for themselves, they mindlessly vote who they're told to by their parents.



No there isn't, but I'm happy for you to continue believing the Trump era has improved Republican appeal among black Americans. :lamo



We still haven't gotten a rational answer from the right and all the responses so far have been variants of argument 1) or 2).
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I wasn't necessarily talking about the Trump era. You are stuck on Trump. Over the years, before Trump, there were more and more black Republican voters. I don't have any idea how that has been since Trump was elected but I think you are wishful thinking by just assuming that that hasn't continued under Trump.
 
ecofarm said:
Oh, no! The dreaded Look in the Mirror. I can totally see how that excuses your pathetically moronic bs racist claims. Totally. You got me with the mirror thing.
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If you don't want to see a bigot, don't look.
 
holbritter said:
Please post the quote "black people don't think for themselves, they mindlessly vote who they're told to by their parents" otherwise, you're lying.
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Let me guess, you are going to pretend that this:

Josie said:
I think most people vote R or D blindly because that's what their parents did and their parents did and their parents did.
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doesn't actually say that, even though she replied with the above quote in the context of the question she asked in the op, a question asking, "Why do so few blacks vote Republican?"

Jesus ****ing Christ. Let's at least try to be intellectually honest here. K?
 
Nickyjo said:
Ok, go to these places with your plan and tell residents to vote republican. Your plan to improve things would be?...
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Uggh. You should ask Chinski some time. Ive gone over what I would do so many times its boring, for a couple of reasons. 1-It will never happen, 2-when I have this discussion with most leftists they just run off and spout some other idiotic ignorant nonsense about their claims as to why I am a racist or a nazi. So basically, I dont give much of a **** about proving anything to anyone but I have had some decent conversations with some reasonable Liberals on this site about it and I'll just say that the amount of investment, government and private, I would advocate putting into inner cities across the country has most liberals saying, woah, there...slow down...EASY......
 
holbritter said:
Please post the quote "black people don't think for themselves, they mindlessly vote who they're told to by their parents" otherwise, you're lying.
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So generation after generation voting for whatever their parents did without questioning it is not objectively stupid?

You're implying they're mindless auromotons who don't think for themselves.

Moderate Right said:
I wasn't necessarily talking about the Trump era. You are stuck on Trump. Over the years, before Trump, there were more and more black Republican voters. I don't have any idea how that has been since Trump was elected but I think you are wishful thinking by just assuming that that hasn't continued under Trump.
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You're at 8% and falling. Good luck.
 
calamity said:
Let me guess, you are going to pretend that this:




doesn't actually say that, even though she replied with the above quote in the context of the question she asked in the op, a question asking, "Why do so few blacks vote Republican?"

Jesus ****ing Christ. Let's at least try to be intellectually honest here. K?
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Sorry, words matter. If that's what she meant, she would have written it that way. Let's keep the spin to a minimum.
 
ataraxia said:
So all that outrage of yours can't really about the economic performance these "democrat-run sh-tholes" in general, because obviously we are both making the point that economically they are beating the pants off rural Trump country. You are just really concerned about the welfare of the African American community, am I right?
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The point made and remains is that voting for the rat party over the course of 6, 7, 8 decades and longer has done nothing but **** over the black American community and all YOU do is manage to reinforce the point.
 
My god man. This isnt brain surgery. Ever been to a trump rally? Ever listened to his rhetoric about racist or white supremacist?

Ever listen to republican rhetoric about social programs or affirmative action or any number of programs and legislation directed at minorities?

The republican party has been the white boys party every since the 1960's with Nixon's Southern Strategy

And since Kennedy/Johnson the democrat party became the party of the minority.
 
VanceMack said:
:lamo

You are seriously ****ting your britches over a conversation you walked into the middle of. Do you even know what you are commenting on and why New York came up as a topic? Do you have the first ****ing clue what you are going off on your tangent over?
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It may be true that as I scrolled through comments I saw your post with the photos you selected to illustrate what you think is New York, and yes, it outraged me because I know what your political leaning is and responded to you specifically. I don't need to know anything more other than your history vitriol and contempt for anyone that you think are democrats. You chose images of New York intentionally to make NY look horrible, you can't deny that.
 
HumblePi said:
It may be true that as I scrolled through comments I saw your post with the photos you selected to illustrate what you think is New York, and yes, it outraged me because I know what your political leaning is and responded to you specifically. I don't need to know anything more other than your history vitriol and contempt for anyone that you think are democrats. You chose images of New York intentionally to make NY look horrible, you can't deny that.
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:lamo

And WHY did I select those photos?

But hey...seriously...props for acknowledging your rush to judgement. Not a lot of people have that grace.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
According to many of the conservatives on this forum, the Democratic party is a racist institution and the Republican party is the party of equality. If this is the case, why do almost all minorities vote Democratic and why is the Republican party almost exclusively white? (89% [1]) 84% of black people vote Democratic, while only 8% vote Republican [2], and these numbers have been in a negative trend for the Republicans. The reasons I've heard given by conservatives for this almost always fall into one of the two following categories:

1) Black people are too stupid to vote for their own self-interests. They'd be much better off voting Republican but they're too stupid to know it!

2) Black people are lazy and enjoy handouts so they don't have to work, which the Democratic party readily provides for them as part of the slave plantation wellness package.

Both of these arguments are fundamentally and objectively racist. Claiming people are too stupid to vote for their self-interests degrades them as rational people and dismisses their legitimate criticisms of the Republican party. Republicans refuse to believe that it might be something they're saying and doing that might be turning them off. Both arguments are fundamentally based around tearing down black people for not voting for them instead of asking themselves why.

So there are many different variations of arguments 1) and 2), but I'd like to hear what other arguments could be presented to explain the disparity. Hell, the Republican party is allegedly the party of Lincoln, you'd think that'd count for something. What's the explanation?
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Oh look..

The white avenger is trying to speak for black people because he thinks he knows more about what black people think than black people do.

Martin Luther King warned us all about people like you.

Martin Luther King and the '''Polite’ Racism of White Liberals — Bunk

MLK Warned Us of the Well-Intentioned Liberal | The Nation
 
RabidAlpaca said:
So you can't explain why it's an 84-8% split Democrat over Republican? Best go on the attack then.
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I don't have to.

Party demographics can turn in 10 years or sooner.

Blacks don't need you or anyone else explaining their reasoning.

If anything, you are being the racist here.
 
I think its fairly simple... Minorities, for the most part, vote for democrats because democrats promise to do things for them exclusively, and republicans do not, or at least most do not. republicans will give anyone and everyone an opportunity but do not by and large agree with giving things out to one set of people and not others, because we believe in equality under the law and for everyone. to me that is what we are supposed to strive for

note that those are differences of opinion, not racist remarks.

but i understand it.... I mean if someone asked you if you wanted to earn $5 and another guy is just going to give it to you , who would you probably lean towards?

BUT, here's the big question... when did the democrats , with all their promises , ever deliver on this utopia? never.
 
Hypothetical said:
I think its fairly simple... Minorities, for the most part, vote for democrats because democrats promise to do things for them exclusively, and republicans do not, or at least most do not. republicans will give anyone and everyone an opportunity but do not by and large agree with giving things out to one set of people and not others, because we believe in equality under the law and for everyone. to me that is what we are supposed to strive for

note that those are differences of opinion, not racist remarks.

but i understand it.... I mean if someone asked you if you wanted to earn $5 and another guy is just going to give it to you , who would you probably lean towards?

BUT, here's the big question... when did the democrats , with all their promises , ever deliver on this utopia? never.
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:roll:


:lamo
 
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