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List of statues removed/ destroyed. The purge is on.

Lisa said:
Nobody is trying to rewrite history but they aren't supporting public monuments to racists and traitors. There are no public monuments to Hilter or Mussolini but nobody is trying to say that he didn't exist either, despite your strawman argument.
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Columbus hate is a fairly recent invention by the "eternally offended" class. Now many want The Founders of our country removed from the public square. That is rewriting history.
 
Aurora said:
Columbus hate is a fairly recent invention by the "eternally offended" class. Now many want The Founders of our country removed from the public square. That is rewriting history.
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:lamo

Silly white wingers. Thats not how time travel works.
 
Master Debator said:
:lamo

Silly white wingers. Thats not how time travel works.
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That's how BLM works. Preach white guilt, the gullible fall and prostrate themselves. It will be fun to watch this silly episode play out in Seattle.
 
Aurora said:
That's how BLM works. Preach white guilt, the gullible fall and prostrate themselves.
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Guilt is a subjective feeling. Why do you care if other people feel guilt over the fact that our society has venerated by all accounts a horrible human being? And how are their subjective feelings on Columbus a re-writing of history. No part of your argument makes any sense.
 
Aurora said:
Columbus hate is a fairly recent invention by the "eternally offended" class. Now many want The Founders of our country removed from the public square. That is rewriting history.
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How can you claim that Columbus discovered anything when the native peoples had been here 30,000+ years before she showed up. He wasn't even the first European to know about the Americas.
Nearly 500 years before the birth of Christopher Columbus, a band of European sailors left their homeland behind in search of a new world. Their high-prowed Viking ship sliced through the cobalt waters of the Atlantic Ocean as winds billowed the boat’s enormous single sail. After traversing unfamiliar waters, the Norsemen aboard the wooden ship spied a new land, dropped anchor and went ashore. Half a millennium before Columbus “discovered” America, those Viking feet may have been the first European ones to ever have touched North American soil.

Exploration was a family business for the expedition’s leader, Leif Eriksson (variations of his last name include Erickson, Ericson, Erikson, Ericsson and Eiriksson). His father, Erik the Red, founded the first European settlement of Greenland after being expelled from Iceland around A.D. 985 for killing a neighbor. (Erik the Red’s father, himself, had been banished from Norway for committing manslaughter.) Eriksson, who is believed to have been born in Iceland around A.D. 970, spent his formative years in desolate Greenland. Around A.D. 1000, Eriksson sailed east to his ancestral homeland of Norway. There, King Olaf I Tryggvason converted him to Christianity and charged him with proselytizing the religion to the pagan settlers of Greenland. Eriksson converted his mother, who built Greenland’s first Christian church, but not his outlaw father.
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Aurora said:
The list will keep growing as history is being purged and rewritten.


On our way to Zimbabwe.
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Of course it’s being really-written. Accurately this time.

As for Zimbabwe, I assume they have few, if any, statues of Cecil Rhodes.
 
Aurora said:
They will likely want monuments to ANC communists erected.
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Fight against apartheid, COMMUNIST!
Fight for civil rights, COMMUNIST!
Organize farm workers, COMMUNIST!

“A communist is any sob who asks for 30 cents an hour when I am paying 25.” Steinbeck wrote something like that.
 
apdst said:
Just wait. I'm looking forward to watching you all lose your marbles when it happens.
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You seem to miss the point. MLK was generally a force for good. The tumbling statues were erected to celebrate people who fought for an evil system, put up by people who wished to protect the segregation that followed that system against its early challenges 100 plus years ago. If they seem like brilliant generals, study their military tactics, learn from them. But there is a reason why there is a statue of Vercingetorix in France and (I assume) none of Caesar, despite the latter’s great military skill.

We don’t put up statues of John Wilkes Booth or Lee Harvey Oswald or James Earl Ray.

Btw, why is it that our assassins seem to have three names?
 
I think too many people are missing the point that it's not about statues - it's about what they represent!

Same as the kneeling so many made a big stinky poo over. They missed the point to one man's very peaceful protest while they become outraged with their own version of why he took the knee. It was easier to accuse him of being disrespectful towards the flag, anthem, patriots/veterans, etc. than it was to actually look into the racial issues that exist in our country.
 
Master Debator said:
And? Is physics and fabric of space and time going to collapse if people 100 years from now decide to throw Obama's statue in the dumpster?
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Why wait 100 years? Obama engaged in a lot of identity politics and race division during his presidency, if that "triggers" some idiots to do vandalism how would that be different? If you support mob rule and vandalism, then that is what you end up with.


Master Debator said:
Go ahead and snap back then... thats only going to strengthen our cause.
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"Your cause"? What cause? The civil war ended 155 years ago. Only people who were fighting for "a cause"--- on either team did so back then and one side LOST-- and now it is over. Did you wear a uniform in that or any other "cause"--- I doubt it. So how can you speak on what is or is not honorable service?


Master Debator said:
I dont care about justice for dead racist slavers or the people who love them and neither is an ever increasing segment of society. Thats what you all don't get.
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While our civil war and slavery is not quite ancient history it is still HISTORY--- and in the past, and that what YOU people like you don't get. It isn't the present, and even for the minuscule amount of White supremacy hate groups out their who use that flag to incite people, they are so few an so shouted down by everyone, that the best thing to do is ignore them. You make it seem like they are legions of people trying to reestablish slavery or something.


Master Debator said:
Go ahead and go out there and defend statues to dead racists. Go put your face to that and see how that works out for you. :lamo
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I'm not defending anything, I am saying it has nothing to do with me or any of us really. When you go to an art gallery and there is a marble statue of Julius Caesar, or a painting of Montezuma, are you inspired to deface them or scream like a child to have the image removed from your view just because those historical figures have the blood of tens of thousands of innocents on their handsl? Why the selective outrage over historical figures I ask?

How about a statue of Marget Sanger, responsible for an ideology behind the deaths of MILLIONS AND MILLIONS-- but not even a peep of outrage, why?


I really hate hearing people who live in the here and now make some claim like, "well, if I had lived 150 years ago, or 300 years ago, or 1000 years ago....blah, blah, blah--- I would have never done this or done that" BULLS***! All they do is regurgitate this virtue signaling tripe. Because I'm pretty sure that no matter who you are that you would not have been one of the "heroes" smuggling slaves to safety at the risk of your own neck, or hiding Jews in attics at the risk of a firing squad, or saving innocents from being trampled by the Roman legions 2000 years ago, or saving captured prisoners from the blood alters of the Aztec temple priests and rulers.

Nobody who has ever had to really PROVE their virtue with their own life and limbs is just all talk. Adding a BLM hashtag to your twitter handle, or wearing "I can't breath" cap is not the same as marching on Selma arm and arm and being beaten, attacked with dogs, and put in prison. So get over it people!



Master Debator said:
Cool story bro.
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You aren't my bro.
 
Nickyjo said:
You seem to miss the point. MLK was generally a force for good. The tumbling statues were erected to celebrate people who fought for an evil system, put up by people who wished to protect the segregation that followed that system against its early challenges 100 plus years ago. If they seem like brilliant generals, study their military tactics, learn from them. But there is a reason why there is a statue of Vercingetorix in France and (I assume) none of Caesar, despite the latter’s great military skill.

We don’t put up statues of John Wilkes Booth or Lee Harvey Oswald or James Earl Ray.

Btw, why is it that our assassins seem to have three names?
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That's all a matter opinion. Do you not get that?

Was Lincoln generally a force for good?...

Tear down statue of Lincoln towering over kneeling slave, petition says - The Boston Globe

What about Ben Franklin?

Freemasons For Dummies: Philadelphia's Masonic Statues Vandalized

Caesar Cary?

Wilmington swiftly removes Caesar Rodney, Columbus statues
 
RaleBulgarian said:
“Accomplished” referring to his numerous successful campaigns.

If we were going by my “logic”, as you put it, the citizens of the locations where Grant and Sherman monuments are located would decide their fate.
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He never commanded a campaign until after the ACW and one of the two he did command was Little Big Horn. But, you don't like losers. Right?
 
Court Jester said:
Why wait 100 years? Obama engaged in a lot of identity politics and race division during his presidency, if that "triggers" some idiots to do vandalism how would that be different? If you support mob rule and vandalism, then that is what you end up with.
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I don't support mob rule in general, I support it specifically against white wingers.

Court Jester said:
"Your cause"? What cause? The civil war ended 155 years ago. Only people who were fighting for "a cause"--- on either team did so back then and one side LOST-- and now it is over. Did you wear a uniform in that or any other "cause"--- I doubt it. So how can you speak on what is or is not honorable service?
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All I got from that was. :boohoo:

My cause is defeating and subjugating white wingers so they know their proper place in society.

Court Jester said:
While our civil war and slavery is not quite ancient history it is still HISTORY--- and in the past, and that what YOU people like you don't get.
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:lamo

Are you claiming there are people arguing that the civil war is going on in the present? Or that it hasn't happened yet but will in the future? That seems like a silly claim to make. I think we can just assume everyone here knows how the passage of time works. :thumbs:

Court Jester said:
It isn't the present, and even for the minuscule amount of White supremacy hate groups out their who use that flag to incite people, they are so few an so shouted down by everyone, that the best thing to do is ignore them. You make it seem like they are legions of people trying to reestablish slavery or something.
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I actually didn't say any of that. White wingers are a tiny minority and its time we treated them as such.

Court Jester said:
I'm not defending anything, I am saying it has nothing to do with me or any of us really. When you go to an art gallery and there is a marble statue of Julius Caesar, or a painting of Montezuma, are you inspired to deface them or scream like a child to have the image removed from your view just because those historical figures have the blood of tens of thousands of innocents on their handsl? Why the selective outrage over historical figures I ask?
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I dont really care about art or permanence. If the Mona Lisa were lost in a fire tomorrow the most it would illicit out of me is a shrug. Thats because I really dont care. You obviously do. Its not about the statues for me. I dont care about them or Obama's or whoevers. I do enjoy how much it pisses off white wingers though to watch their culture being replaced in front of their very eyes. That does fill me with joy. :lol:

Court Jester said:
I really hate hearing people who live in the here and now make some claim like, "well, if I had lived 150 years ago, or 300 years ago, or 1000 years ago....blah, blah, blah--- I would have never done this or done that" BULLS***! All they do is regurgitate this virtue signaling tripe. Because I'm pretty sure that no matter who you are that you would not have been one of the "heroes" smuggling slaves to safety at the risk of your own neck, or hiding Jews in attics at the risk of a firing squad, or saving innocents from being trampled by the Roman legions 2000 years ago, or saving captured prisoners from the blood alters of the Aztec temple priests and rulers.
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No pretense for you huh? You know exactly what kind of person you'd be. Same one you are now apparently. :shrug:

Court Jester said:
Nobody who has ever had to really PROVE their virtue with their own life and limbs is just all talk. Adding a BLM hashtag to your twitter handle, or wearing "I can't breath" cap is not the same as marching on Selma arm and arm and being beaten, attacked with dogs, and put in prison. So get over it people!
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Someone sounds jealous...

Court Jester said:
You aren't my bro.
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Awww...
 
Aurora said:
Christopher Columbus , is 500 years in the past. Here the left is idolizing Floyd, a multiple felon, drug addict. Talk about standards. Non blacks killed by cops ....silence. White lives don't matter.
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Talk about missing the point. :roll:
 
apdst said:
He never commanded a campaign until after the ACW and one of the two he did command was Little Big Horn. But, you don't like losers. Right?
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I said “leader”, not “commander”, as in all commissioned officers are leaders (good or bad).
 
apdst said:
That's all a matter opinion. Do you not get that?

Was Lincoln generally a force for good?...

Tear down statue of Lincoln towering over kneeling slave, petition says - The Boston Globe

What about Ben Franklin?

Freemasons For Dummies: Philadelphia's Masonic Statues Vandalized

Caesar Cary?

Wilmington swiftly removes Caesar Rodney, Columbus statues
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It was a “matter of opinion” whether MLK was generally a force for good? Aside from stepping out on his marriage, what did he do that was a force for evil? Can you give us a critique of his civil rights efforts? Were you upset that he came out against the Vietnam war?

Lincoln and Ben also were forces for good. That’s why MLK spoke at his memorial, and why Abe has one. Ben disliked German immigrants, but he did right by us during the Revolution.

I suppose you don’t like Dion’s “ Abraham, Martin and John” either. Or are you just intolerant of imperfection?

All these are opinions, true. Most think Brando was the greatest actor of his generation. Others say he mumbled.

The consensus is with MLK, Abe, JFK, Bobby, Marlon and Ben.

By the way, I recommend the Sopranos episode on this topic. Just google, “he was gay, Gary Cooper?” Great primer on ethnic tensions in our country.
 
Master Debator said:
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The comment section of that video is glorious. What a collection of sad sacked cucks, impotent to do anything about the taking of their country and the desecration of their ****ty culture. :lamo
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The vandalism and destruction by the street scum says plenty about the left.
 
Master Debator said:
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The comment section of that video is glorious. What a collection of sad sacked cucks, impotent to do anything about the taking of their country and the desecration of their ****ty culture. :lamo
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Yes the comments are interesting:

Ministry Of Mediocrity R.C.Collier • a month ago
YES! I was waiting for your reply.
When they say we have 'white privilege' they are basically saying, 'We are jealous and want to either bring you down to our level or lower, or get free gibs from you'.
 
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