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A Marine responds to Mattis

Termn8or said:
Well gosh, where would evidence of Ukrainian corrupt come from, Nigeria?

Rudy is convinced it's real, but even he admits that with that country, you can't be sure of anything.

It includes sworn testimony, and he put a lot of effort to verifying it as much as possible.
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So in one post you claimed 400 pages of evidence from.Ukraine will.prove you right and completely dismissed inconvenient evidence because it was from Ukraine.

That is going too far.

Even for a trump supporter.

Don't look me in the eye, piss on my leg, and tell me it's raining.

It's pathetic.
 
What if...? said:
Termn8or said:
There is no video I'm aware of.

If you'd rad Buchanan's piece, you'd have seen the part about Secret Service agents being injured.

Former Secret Service agent Dan Bongino has talked about on Fox.

And Fox news has reported it, except liberals reject all those sources.

Then tear their hair about when someone mentions a real event.
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So all you got is hearsay.

Trumps only defense was that it was all hearsay.
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That's just freaking stupid. What do you think this is, a court room?

Bongino spoke at length on Fox about how Secret Service agents were badly hurt in a well planned, well executed, determined attack on the White House and almost got in.

Those aren't rioters. Those aren't angry demonstrators who lost their temper.

It was ANTIFA or a like group.

Amazing how determined liberals are to deny reality.

Dan Bongino: Antifa led 'sophisticated' attack on White House, this is an 'insurrection'


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Dan Bongino: Antifa led 'sophisticated' attack on White House, this is an 'insurrection' | On Air Videos | Fox News
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What if...? said:
Because he giggles compulsively when the voices get through the tinfoil and it makes him worry somebody will hear?
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I like giggles and I don't think they should be demonized. Do people weaponize giggles? Sure. But that shouldn't ruin giggles for everyone or make giggles a bad thing.
 
Termn8or said:
I could pound my chest and note that Mattis might be bitter that he was fired by Trump, but rather than that, which is pointless, I'm taking the time to examine his statements and the hugely important things he has not said.

And I find his silence for three and a half years very suspicious.

Almost no on has considered Dowd's claims. No one wants to examine the evidence. No one wants to apply logic.
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We.

Have.

All.

Heard.

All.

This.

Stuff.

Before.

It is a Playbook. Predictable as sunrise.
 
Termn8or said:
It's just amazing how liberals close their eyes to the actual words he expressed.

Is he lying?

is he wrong?

Is anyone accusing this Marine of dissembling or deceiving?

No, it's giggle, giggle, giggle and the usual garbage.
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I don’t know if Dowd believes the crap he’s spewing, but he’s sure got a head full of it.
 
Termn8or said:
You haven't even examined what Dowd wrote.

Are you afraid to look?

To much reality for you?:lol:
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“Reality”? This thread belongs in the Conspiracy sub-forum.
 
Termn8or said:
Oh, okay, so you know better than former Secret Service Agent Dan Bongino, who of course has sources inside the Secret Service.

Un-freaking believable.
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Well, hell. What ever would make me consider that somebody might not tell the truth?

According to you all liberals do nothing but lie.

But how dare I suspect a republican of gilding the lily, right?

Do you even hear yourself?

(Or thank you, if you are intentionally providing me with opportunities to counter conservative propaganda methods. I don't think I've ever had this much cooperation. With perfect examples and everything.)
 
What if...? said:
And leaks more often than not come from underlings. with an agenda or something expensive they want.

Mueller is also a person who had a great reputation for integrity. Until he did something trump didn't like.

Then he instantly transformed into a traitorous liberal conspiring against the president.

As does everybody in government who dares to challenge him.

Don't you ever find it odd that losing an election made hundreds if not thousands of Americans with stellar records traitorous scum in an instant?

I only know a few who actually liked Hillary. Most like me voted for her because she wasn't the jackass we've been seeing strut around like a pregnant ostrich for decades.

It makes me wonder if you have no honor so assume nobody else does either.

I am pretty sure that you believe only pro-pedophile cops should be able to investigate pedophiles.

Because I'm sure you don't believe a democrat can honestly investigate a Republican.

But are cheering republican investigations of democrats.

How can the former be a problem and the latter be the solution?

Sometimes I wonder if they pepper their messaging with things that will make liberals talks to you like you're stupid.

So your narratives can point to it and say, "See? I told you liberals think you're stupid!".

Sure happens a lot.
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Great observation, the list is endless, Esper is on the radar now. He will be a traitorous liberal soon

Then he instantly transformed into a traitorous liberal conspiring against the president.

As does everybody in government who dares to challenge him.
 
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Termn8or said:
Well gosh, where would evidence of Ukrainian corrupt come from, Nigeria?

Rudy is convinced it's real, but even he admits that with that country, you can't be sure of anything.

It includes sworn testimony, and he put a lot of effort to verifying it as much as possible.
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So in one post you claimed 400 pages of evidence from.Ukraine will.prove you right and completely dismissed inconvenient evidence because it was from Ukraine.

That is going too far.

Even for a trump supporter.

Don't look me in the eye, piss on my leg, and tell me it's raining.

It's pathetic.
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Huh, what? Prove me right, dismiss, wtf?

If you're not going to read what I actually wrote, you're going to write a lot of utter nonsense.

As I noted, even Guliani cannot be 100% sure it's true, but he did his best.

If the Justice Dept investigates and finds nothing, then there was nothing there.

Except that a lot of sources have claimed with strong if inconclusive evidence that Beltway politicians and their buddies were enriching themselves in a number of highly unethical if not illegal ways in Ukraine, Romania and likely other countries.

Why does that surprise you? Why is it called the Swamp?
 
What if...? said:
I told you not to come back here with ad libs.

Wait until you get the real deal.

It should he here soon.

At least your professionally designed arguments are kind of interesting.

Not crossword interesting.

More like word searches.

Just circle all the words and the letters that are left spell: Bull****!
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Now you are blathering nonsense...not even trying to rationalize anymore.

Moving on...
 
What if...? said:
Well, hell. What ever would make me consider that somebody might not tell the truth?

According to you all liberals do nothing but lie.

But how dare I suspect a republican of gilding the lily, right?

Do you even hear yourself?

(Or thank you, if you are intentionally providing me with opportunities to counter conservative propaganda methods. I don't think I've ever had this much cooperation. With perfect examples and everything.)
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Holy crap, liberals are so freaking lost.

Follow the link and watch the video. Is Bongino lying?

Dan Bongino: Antifa led 'sophisticated' attack on White House, this is an 'insurrection'
Dan Bongino: Antifa led 'sophisticated' attack on White House, this is an 'insurrection' | On Air Videos | Fox News
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Termn8or said:
It's just amazing how liberals close their eyes to the actual words he expressed.

Is he lying?

is he wrong?

Is anyone accusing this Marine of dissembling or deceiving?

No, it's giggle, giggle, giggle and the usual garbage.
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Yeah, it was mostly lies. Ho hum.
 
What if...? said:
The OP certainly thought nobody would.

Or was unaware when he made the post that it wasn't some retired combat marine but another guy who finageled a cushy job during Vietnam to stay safe and out of the mud and blood.

Which is even more funny iin the context of this conversation.
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Mattias is almost universally loved by combat marines because of his take no prisoners aggressiveness, so I knew that someone who disagreed with that that publically would be a stateside Marine who didn't see combat.

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Mycroft said:
Now you are blathering nonsense...not even trying to rationalize anymore.

Moving on...
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Yeah, he babbles a lot.

A common liberal trait.

One of them claimed that you felt lost, which is every bit as true as Trump feeling frightened by the Russian Collusion hoax as media hacks claimed some time back.:lol:
 
Lisa said:
Mattias is almost universally loved by combat marines because of his take no prisoners aggressiveness, so I knew that someone who disagreed with that that publically would be a stateside Marine who didn't see combat.
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Wasn't that what was said about Robert Mueller, ex-Marine and law abiding, righteous figure of the Beltway?

Mueller is likely under criminal investigation. At least three of his prosecutors are.
 
Termn8or said:
First. the favor wasn't about Biden. It was about Ukraine's interference in the 2016 election, a scandal that has not yet been fully investigated and revealed.. It was a long way into the conversation before Biden's name even came uip.

Second, every president is the Chief Law Enforcement Officer who has an obligation to seek evidence of corruption.

Ukraine signed a treaty with the US to cooperate in fighting corruption.

It doesn't matter if Biden was a political opponent or not. Either he was involved in corruption or he wasn't.

If he was, it's perfectly legitimate to demand evidence.
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So why did he mention Biden specifically?

And are you seriously going with asking about the rich Ukrainian owner of Crowdstrike who has the physical DNC servers hidden at the home office of his business there?

You know, Crowdstrike. That American company whose home office is in California and is owned by Americans?

That Crowdstrike?

Because that's some 25th amendment disconnection from reality right there.

That's just the kind of incoherent amalgam one gets from the senile who listen to Rush every day. A hodgepodge of chunks of two or three fringe conspiracy theories all mashed together.

How exactly do you propose the president of Ukraine apply pressure to a person who doesn't exist to get them to go somewhere that doesn't exist and retrieve something nobody ever had in the first place?

And if you were a new president just asked that by the most powerful man in the world who your country depends on the support of, wouldn't you be terrified? Wouldn't you just agree with everything he says? Do you tell him in front of everybody that you cannot do the impossible?
 
Termn8or said:
Well gosh, where would evidence of Ukrainian corrupt come from, Nigeria?

Rudy is convinced it's real, but even he admits that with that country, you can't be sure of anything.

It includes sworn testimony, and he put a lot of effort to verifying it as much as possible.
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You cannot have it both ways, my friend.
 
Voter fraud is and has been insignificant in terms of outcome.

Voter suppression by the GOP is violent and vicious, and keeps getting thrown out by the courts.
 
Termn8or said:
Wasn't that what was said about Robert Mueller, ex-Marine and law abiding, righteous figure of the Beltway?

Mueller is likely under criminal investigation. At least three of his prosecutors are.
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Keep believing that Obamagate nonsense. They investgated Hillary for 8 years and couldn't prove an unpaid parking ticket. :lamo
 
Termn8or said:
Holy crap, liberals are so freaking lost.

Follow the link and watch the video. Is Bongino lying?
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Dan Bongino said..."friends told me that known antifa leadership were there...."

Really...so who are his friends...and who are the 'known antifa leadership'? And here I thought conservatives hated anonymous sources.
 
Termn8or said:
That's just freaking stupid. What do you think this is, a court room?

Bongino spoke at length on Fox about how Secret Service agents were badly hurt in a well planned, well executed, determined attack on the White House and almost got in.

Those aren't rioters. Those aren't angry demonstrators who lost their temper.

It was ANTIFA or a like group.

Amazing how determined liberals are to deny reality.
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I can find zero evidence of an "attack on the whitehouse" where they almost got in.

And that "50 SS agents" is now down to 14, according to a spokesman.

There are no details of what the injuiries were. Whether they were blisters and chafing from wearing all that gear in the hot sun and then exerting themselves or they tripped over an old lady trying to bash a skull.

I'm sure it's all over your media, could you find me some details about the suffering of the officers fighting for their lives in the hospital.l? A picture of a nurse putting on a bandaid even?

Something beyond the ravings of some Fox talking head?
 
ecofarm said:
I like giggles and I don't think they should be demonized. Do people weaponize giggles? Sure. But that shouldn't ruin giggles for everyone or make giggles a bad thing.
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Point taken.
 
Termn8or said:
Holy crap, liberals are so freaking lost.

Follow the link and watch the video. Is Bongino lying?
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I'm seeing a trend here...

John Dowd, Pat Buchanan and now Dan Bongino...
 
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