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Second Amendment people: Would it be better if the protesters were armed with AR 15's?

SonOfDaedalus

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The most poorly thought out 2nd Amendment argument involves citizens overthrowing an oppressive government.

So, the ideal situation based on this thinking is for the protesters to be fully armed, right?
 
More useful.... maybe a concealed weapon of course with the permit if needed! (lawful carry)
Who is overthrowing the government?
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
The most poorly thought out 2nd Amendment argument involves citizens overthrowing an oppressive government.

So, the ideal situation based on this thinking is for the protesters to be fully armed, right?
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Cue the right whinge doves.
"Coo! Coo! Coo!"
 
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SonOfDaedalus said:
The most poorly thought out 2nd Amendment argument involves citizens overthrowing an oppressive government.

So, the ideal situation based on this thinking is for the protesters to be fully armed, right?
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Only the "right people" are allowed to exercise their 2nd amendment rights to oppose government tyranny.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
The most poorly thought out 2nd Amendment argument involves citizens overthrowing an oppressive government.

So, the ideal situation based on this thinking is for the protesters to be fully armed, right?
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Brandishing an assault rifle at a protest is both legal and incredibly stupid, and it would and should take very little to justify the police gunning you down in the street.

This applies in all cases during any protest for any reason.



 
SonOfDaedalus said:
The most poorly thought out 2nd Amendment argument involves citizens overthrowing an oppressive government.

So, the ideal situation based on this thinking is for the protesters to be fully armed, right?
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The only tyranny in this case is in the state allowing rioters to run wild while forbidding law abiding citizens from defending themselves.

It would be desirable if there were an armed force powerful enough and willing to remedy this situation. However, no such force exists or could exist (unless the Pentagon is far more right-wing than I understand it to be). A state can only be overthrown by non-state forces if it is good and ready to be.

I agree that the argument you've cited is, as usually formulated, not cogent.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
The most poorly thought out 2nd Amendment argument involves citizens overthrowing an oppressive government.

So, the ideal situation based on this thinking is for the protesters to be fully armed, right?
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Not much need to overthrow a government which is allowing "the oppressed" free access to stores full of new items.
 
armycowboy said:
Only the "right people" are allowed to exercise their 2nd amendment rights to oppose government tyranny.
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I suspect some of the MAGA crowd thinks only "Very Fine People" should be allowed such rights.
 
lwf said:
Brandishing an assault rifle at a protest is both legal and incredibly stupid, and it would and should take very little to justify the police gunning you down in the street.
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Uh huh. I would have zero sympathy for them if they were shot.
 
JustHanging said:
Uh huh. I would have zero sympathy for them if they were shot.
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Open carry in a public place is like painting a bullseye on your chest. More so if you are a black man.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
The most poorly thought out 2nd Amendment argument involves citizens overthrowing an oppressive government.

So, the ideal situation based on this thinking is for the protesters to be fully armed, right?
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Congratulations you won the stupid comment of the day award.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
The most poorly thought out 2nd Amendment argument involves citizens overthrowing an oppressive government.

So, the ideal situation based on this thinking is for the protesters to be fully armed, right?
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Your problem is that you are confusing protesters with Antifa and BLM thugs. Peaceful protesting is fine. Those burning down businesses , and torching police cars and police stations are not protesters. They are paid criminal thugs.
 
Grand Mal said:
Cue the right whinge doves.
"Coo! Coo! Coo!"
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Cue the left wing trump haters celebrating the riots and desperately hoping for a Charlottesville narrative.
 
armycowboy said:
Only the "right people" are allowed to exercise their 2nd amendment rights to oppose government tyranny.
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How is looting and burning down local businesses opposing government tyranny?
 
lwf said:
Brandishing an assault rifle at a protest is both legal and incredibly stupid, and it would and should take very little to justify the police gunning you down in the street.

This applies in all cases during any protest for any reason.



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Assault weapons which are fully automatic have been banned since the prohibition era.
 
ObamacareFail said:
Cue the left wing trump haters celebrating the riots and desperately hoping for a Charlottesville narrative.
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I bet Colin Kaepernick taking a knee and bowing his head in protest looks pretty good to you now, huh?
 
LOL!

I'm game. Good luck.
 
AmNat said:
The only tyranny in this case is in the state allowing rioters to run wild while forbidding law abiding citizens from defending themselves.

It would be desirable if there were an armed force powerful enough and willing to remedy this situation. However, no such force exists or could exist (unless the Pentagon is far more right-wing than I understand it to be). A state can only be overthrown by non-state forces if it is good and ready to be.

I agree that the argument you've cited is, as usually formulated, not cogent.
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But my question is: would things be better if the protesters were armed? The armed police force you're talking about would be dealing with armed protesters among the peaceful protesters. Do you see why that would create chaos?
 
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ObamacareFail said:
Your problem is that you are confusing protesters with Antifa and BLM thugs. Peaceful protesting is fine. Those burning down businesses , and torching police cars and police stations are not protesters. They are paid criminal thugs.
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Antifa or BLM are usually citizens, right? So, they have 2nd Amendment rights.

Your problem is you assume that resisting an oppressive government is always going to be citizen freedom fighters vs. some totalitarian government. The reality is much more confused. You won't always agree with the cause of the armed citizens. So, all you get is civil war.

Plenty of countries have rebel groups in the jungles outside cities.
 
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