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All White people are racist

ecofarm said:
TriGgeReD
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I am old and not very hip, what with oddball caps. Is that supposed to mean something?

Oh wait I forgot this the subject that you specialize in trolling people in. Never mind, continue on.
 
PirateMk1 said:
Oh wait I forgot this the subject that you specialize in trolling people in. Never mind, continue on.
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Typical ad hom to defend racism.
 
grip said:
You have a better analysis and insight on this subject than most. I believe culturalism plays a role in the dynamics of race relations. The financial oppression, lack of opportunities, and education, along with the infatuation of crime and violence from 'hip hop, gangster' culture keeps black society from advancing and reaching equal levels of prosperity?
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Ecofarm is so full of **** on this subject he needs a movement. Its bunch of racist/bigoted blather that cannot stand to actual scrutiny.
 
PirateMk1 said:
No just my natural reaction to your illogical ill educated horse crap.
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I'm educated. I'm an intellectual.

You are spewing poorly educated trailer trash garbage in defense of racism.
 
grip said:
Poverty, historically, was more about racism or euro-based elitism but now is primarily about favoritism, education, experience, intellect, providence, qualifications, background, pedigree, luck, age, looks, and less about skin color. If you possess the right amount of ingredients, you can advance financially in today's world, especially if you're a minority. But monetary oppression, leveraged income disparity, and negative cultural stereotypes do still weigh heavily in society.
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You misunderstand. Poverty has many symptoms and cycles. We could spend all day talking about the reasons poor people stay poor. But that's not the point. You're missing the point.

Disproportionate poverty is caused by one thing: Racism.
 
ecofarm said:
Typical ad hom to defend racism.
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Typical trolling response. Yea, yea. Get over yourself. We both know you like baiting people in this subject. We've down this road before hos.

Originally Posted by ecofarm
TriGgeReD
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I am old and not very hip, what with oddball caps. Is that supposed to mean something?

Oh wait I forgot this the subject that you specialize in trolling people in. Never mind, continue on. Originally Posted by PirateMk1
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So everyone knows what was being wrote about. :comp:
 
PirateMk1 said:
You keep singling out white people
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The thread is about white people. Apparently, unfortunately for you, not all threads can be "black people bad". But you sure try to turn every thread into that, don't ya.
 
ecofarm said:
I'm educated. I'm an intellectual.

You are spewing poorly educated trailer trash garbage in defense of racism.
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Yes you are educated. Very poorly. I suggest you seek a refund. Intellectual? Today? No. On occasion maybe. I give that begrudgingly. You can be intellectual at times. But not today.

Playing games as usual with your editing, I see. You apparently think people will miss that, or I will. Either way makes no difference to me, though it does look bad for you. ;) People can see and know I almost never edit their posts I am replying to and if I do it its made clear and people are referred to the original. I dont run from what I am replying to.

For the readers edification and the full quote I made that Ecofarm is responding to...

No just my natural reaction to your illogical ill educated horse crap. Almost all people, whether white or otherwise are not naturally racist. The United States is certainly not a racist country nor are all of or even a large minority of the country.
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PirateMk1 said:
Yes you are educated.
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You came into a thread about white people being racist to talk about black people. What more needs to be said.
 
ecofarm said:
You misunderstand. Poverty has many symptoms and cycles. We could spend all day talking about the reasons poor people stay poor. But that's not the point. You're missing the point.

Disproportionate poverty is caused by one thing: Racism.
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That's putting too much onus on one thing as the sole cause. It may be the primary reason but not the only source. I see whites as disliking black culture more than hating a race for their literal skin color, which makes no sense. True racists, which is a small percentage, believe that their skin color comes from superior genetics and evolution, which again is just pure stupid.

What you blanket term as racism, I call elitism and culturalism. There are many of today's white youth that adores the 'hip hop music and gangster culture' associated with blacks that promotes gun use, violence, chauvinism, crime, drugs, and alcohol abuse. The pressure put on black youth to adopt and comply in their neighborhoods with this negative stereotype is as much the cause for lack of advancement as any oppressive racism.
 
grip said:
That's putting too much onus on one thing as the sole cause. It may be the primary reason but not the only source.
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You think black people are inferior and that's why they suffer disproportionate poverty?

That's the only other "possible cause" of disproportionate poverty.
 
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PirateMk1 said:
Ecofarm is so full of **** on this subject he needs a movement. Its bunch of racist/bigoted blather that cannot stand to actual scrutiny.
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I like eco. I don't always agree with him but he's fair and gives what he gets.
 
grip said:
CNN's Van Jones: "Even the most well-intentioned white person has a virus in his or her brain" | Disrn

CNN's Van Jones on Friday accused all white people of being racist, saying, "Even the most liberal, well-intentioned white person has a virus in his or her brain that can be activated at an instant."



Well, there you have it, all white people are automatically racist according to an expert. That should end all epithet's and race baiting from whites on whites because we're all equally guilty, right?
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It's amazing how unintentionally ironic this statement is.
 
ecofarm said:
You think black people are inferior and that's why they suffer disproportionate poverty?
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I think they're equal, not inferior or superior, but their culture is caught in a loop of self-inflicting harm. It was initially caused by white oppression but it's not being propagated by it anymore.
 
grip said:
I think they're equal, not inferior or superior, but their culture is caught in a loop of self-inflicting harm. It was initially caused by white oppression but it's not being propagated by it anymore.
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If they're equal, why not proportional wealth and power? Why don't the numbers line up?
 
ecofarm said:
The thread is about white people. Apparently, unfortunately for you, not all threads can be "black people bad". But you sure try to turn every thread into that, don't ya.
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You do like your selective editing dont you?:)

You keep singling out white people which is in itself a very vague and general term as racist, and you say ALL white people are racist. Perhaps you are using an uncommon definition. Define what you mean to be racist.
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Damn how did that get there? The whole post wasn't supposed to be there. :lol:

Yes thread is about "white" racism, of which you claim to be the resident "expert" in. I am questioning your take that ALL white people are racist. Not all just north American white people, but white people everywhere. Thats a big brush buddy. So I presume you have specialized definition of racism.

As from before the one I am using, from the Oxford dictionary,

noun
noun: racism
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
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A partial dictionary definition education, ignoring parts of the definition. It's like you went to dictionary school and didn't complete the assignment.

Don't waste my time.
 
Well making such a racially based blanket statement about all white people only illustrates that Van Jones is talking like a racist would. Is he a racist? I don't know. But his statement, perhaps made out of passion or despair, certainly rings out as a racist utterance.

However in his badly made critique is a serious kernel of truth. The combination of too much institutional racism in some law enforcement agencies, coupled with the militarisation of police and their tactics is turning some parts of America from policed zones into occupied zones where the police are viewed and sometimes treated like a foreign, occupying, military force. This is down to kitting out and training fewer officers to mete out more force, rather than having more officers doing low impact community policing and using their brains and voices to keep order rather than their brawn, weapons and military cast-off MRAPs to intimidate and infuriate entire neighbourhoods of people, many of whom are racial minorities and members of lower income brackets. The problem is very much a problem of methodology and culture in the ranks and leadership's of police forces as well as an issue of lawlessness in the streets, which also is a big part of the problem.

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.
 
grip said:
I like eco. I don't always agree with him but he's fair and gives what he gets.
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As far as I am concerned on this one subject he is a glorified troll at best. Otherwise he is perfectly sane and nice individual and I agree with your assessment of him. In general I find him to be a well written and personable.

On to the next response of Eco to put my virtual boot to his virtual hinny. :hammer:
 
grip said:
CNN's Van Jones: "Even the most well-intentioned white person has a virus in his or her brain" | Disrn

CNN's Van Jones on Friday accused all white people of being racist, saying, "Even the most liberal, well-intentioned white person has a virus in his or her brain that can be activated at an instant."



Well, there you have it, all white people are automatically racist according to an expert. That should end all epithet's and race baiting from whites on whites because we're all equally guilty, right?
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Jones isn’t an expert on racism, IMO, but he does have a lot of experience dealing with racial issues. More to the point though, Jones doesn’t speak for anyone but himself.

Your thread premise gets an F
 
ecofarm said:
If they're equal, why not proportional wealth and power? Why don't the numbers line up?
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Because of their prior history of being used for unlawful slavery and oppression. They've been enduring an institutional, grinding kind of poverty that is systemic. Once you become destitute, it's almost impossible to claw your way back up and can take many generations.

I keep telling you that elitists are the ones keeping everyone down, whites, blacks, etc. They don't care what your skin color or background is. They are a minority of wealthy powerful investors that have the gov and whole financial system leveraged in their favor. They use the majority of the population as sheep and cattle to promote their wealth.
 
swing_voter said:
I'd go one further. Everyone is at least a tiny bit racist, black white and Asian. It's jut part of being human.


(Lord Tammerlain beat me to it.)
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I’ll go even further. Everyone, regardless of their race, sex, religion, age, sexual orientation, etc., has biases because, like you properly said, “it’s just part of being human”.

It’s up to each of us to be aware of that and work consciously to overcome those wrong feelings/thoughts.
 
grip said:
Because of their prior history of being used for unlawful slavery and oppression. They've been enduring an institutional, grinding kind of poverty that is systemic. Once you become destitute, it's almost impossible to claw your way back up and can take many generations.

I keep telling you that elitists are the ones keeping everyone down, whites, blacks, etc. They don't care what your skin color or background is. They are a minority of wealthy powerful investors that have the gov and whole financial system leveraged in their favor. They use the majority of the population as sheep and cattle to promote their wealth.
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What about the history of segregation and Jim Crow? What about racist injustice today?

All of that racism is why black people suffer disproportionate poverty. Not because black people are inferior, they're not.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
Jones isn’t an expert on racism, IMO, but he does have a lot of experience dealing with racial issues. More to the point though, Jones doesn’t speak for anyone but himself.

Your thread premise gets an F
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Jones was judging all whites though.

I'll consider the source for the premise.
 
ecofarm said:
What about the history of segregation and Jim Crow? What about racist injustice today?

All of that racism is why black people suffer disproportionate poverty. Not because black people are inferior.
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The amount of racist injustice today is minuscule compared to the past. It's become too sensitive a subject to even broach rationally in today's culture of social justice warriors.

Nobody said blacks were inferior that's purely your conjecture. You want to infer that to boslter your own view point.
 
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