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AP: Pentagon readies force to invade … Minneapolis?

SheWolf said:
I didn’t defend rioting anywhere. I am a protestor. I am protesting police brutality. You need to calm down and stop stereotyping everybody standing against police brutality
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Of course you're defending the violence.
 
apdst said:
The Davidians were burned to death, in case you didn't know.
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You’re talking about unleashing the same military force on Americans, in case you didn’t know
 
Michael Johnson said:
Agreed, but Trump needs to act fast as cities across the country are using a dead man as an excuse to act like a bunch of monkeys. If left unchecked it will spill into sane communities like the Rodney King incident.
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I disagree. This isnt Trumps debacle and thats one of the things the disgusting ****nuts on the left are trying to fabricate. **** them...all of them. They created their ****hole...they need to fix it. If the idiot leftists cities burn to the ****ing ground, too bad. Not a dollar in federal aid should go to them to rebuild.
 
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SheWolf said:
You’re talking about unleashing the same military force on Americans, in case you didn’t know
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The military wasn't unleashed on the Davidians.

The Davidians weren't destroying private property and murdering innocents.
 
VanceMack said:
I disagree. This isnt Trumps debacle and thats one of the things the disgusting ****nuts on the left are trying to fabricate. **** them...all of them. They created their ****hole...they need to fix it. If the idiot leftists cities burn tot eh ****ing ground, too bad. Not a dollar in federal aid should go to them to rebuild.
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Trump has intentionally made this "his debacle".
 
Minnesota Governor Tim Walz echoed this sentiment in a press conference on Saturday alleging that the demonstrations that caused so much damage included provocateurs, likely from outside the area. At the same press conference, Saint Paul Mayor Melvin Carter stated, “Every single person we arrested last night was from out of state.” State officials said around 80 percent of those arrested in the Twin Cities on Friday were from outside Minnesota.

The demographics of a largely white, young, and destructive group fit more with a movement known as accelerationists than Black Lives Matter.

The accelerationists, if you have never heard the term, are an extreme subset of white nationalism whose goal is to bring about chaos and destruction. The basic tenet of accelerationism argues that since Western governments are inherently corrupt, the best (and only) thing supremacists can do is to accelerate the end of society by sowing chaos and aggravating political tensions. “Accelerationist ideas have been cited in mass shooters’ manifestos — explicitly, in the case of the New Zealand killer — and are frequently referenced in white supremacist web forums and chat rooms,” Zack Beauchamp explained.

White Supremacists pretending to host a protest to honor Floyd George on Facebook to whip up violence in San Diego were posted on Black Lives Matter-San Diego social media, warning people not to go and that it was a white supremacist-organized rally. People attending demonstrations remarked on the fact that the demographics were wrong in places like Oakland, where the majority of the destruction was perpetrated by young, Caucasian men, and has inspired not just people on social media but reporting in the mainstream media to properly question whether this is a form of infiltration by outside extremist elements.

Far-Right Infiltrators and Agitators in George Floyd Protests: Indicators of White Supremacists

Regarding the armed neo-Nazi invasion of Chalottesville, Trump opined, "You also had people that were very fine people, on both sides.
 
TheDoctorWasIn said:
Trump has intentionally made this "his debacle".
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Bull****. The rat politicians that have turned every one of those leftist cities into ****holes created this problem. It didnt happen overnight. Its ****ing pathetic that people like you even now will desperately try to turn this ****storm into a political attack. You blithering ****ing idiots spent decades electing inept governors and city leaders and smearing your **** all over yourselves and now you want to blame someone else for YOUR actions and the resulting consequences.

Typical. Thats par for the course for all of you.
 
VanceMack said:
Bull****. The rat politicians that have turned every one of those leftist cities into ****holes created this problem. It didnt happen overnight. Its ****ing pathetic that people like you even now will desperately try to turn this ****storm into a political attack. You blithering ****ing idiots spent decades electing inept governors and city leaders and smearing your **** all over yourselves and now you want to blame someone else for YOUR actions and the resulting consequences.

Typical. Thats par for the course for all of you.
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Don't get me wrong - Trump didn't cause the riots.

But his comments on them have made it his debacle.
 
apdst said:
I am offended by what the cops did. I'm equally offended by what these ****ing animals are doing.
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Unless the cops are held accountable and things change in America, angry unheard people will probably want to riot and set the PD. I am not excusing nor defending their behavior, but putting them on the same level is a false equivalency. Then there is you, promoting government violence and stereotyping the whole movement. You lack understanding into how dangerous you are.
 
Sandy Shanks said:
This is surreal. Trump used Saturday morning messages to declare himself safe inside the White House, lash out at a Democratic mayor, and raise the prospect of the Secret Service unleashing dogs and "ominous weapons" on the unrepentant protesters.

You heard right.

"Great job last night at the White House by the U.S. @SecretService. They were not only totally professional, but very cool. I was inside, watched every move, and couldn't have felt more safe," Trump said on Twitter.

He said the Secret Service "let the 'protesters' scream & rant as much as they wanted, but whenever someone...got too frisky or out of line, they would quickly come down on them, hard - didn't know what hit them. If they had they would...have been greeted with the most vicious dogs, and most ominous weapons, I have ever seen. That's when people would have been really badly hurt, at least."

This man is sick, and with his constant firing of members of his own government, he has been out of control since the Trump Republican Senate vindicated him.

To give some idea how desperate Trump is, as shown by this thread and other threads, his supporters have totally given up on him. Those opposed to Trump's nutty antics are being given free rein.

Even GOP leaders in Congress are avoiding what Trump does and says. They are extremely vulnerable with Trump as the party leader, and they must divest themselves from the President, a precarious position to be in, for sure.
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Am I wrong, because I never heard protestors in front of the White House were being violent. Trump is a lunatic, because every American has the right to protest. Him threatening peaceful Americans and threatening violence is disgusting.
 
SheWolf said:
Unless the cops are held accountable and things change in America, angry unheard people will probably want to riot and set the PD. I am not excusing nor defending their behavior, but putting them on the same level is a false equivalency. Then there is you, promoting government violence and stereotyping the whole movement. You lack understanding into how dangerous you are.
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You're defending it right here...

"Unless the cops are held accountable and things change in America, angry unheard people will probably want to riot..."

You're making excuses for something that's inexcusable.

If the destruction of private property continues, rioters will start to die.
 
SheWolf said:
Am I wrong, because I never heard protestors in front of the White House were being violent. Trump is a lunatic, because every American has the right to protest. Him threatening peaceful Americans and threatening violence is disgusting.
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He's threatening the terrorists.
 
Sandy Shanks said:
Minnesota Governor Tim Walz echoed this sentiment in a press conference on Saturday alleging that the demonstrations that caused so much damage included provocateurs, likely from outside the area. At the same press conference, Saint Paul Mayor Melvin Carter stated, “Every single person we arrested last night was from out of state.” State officials said around 80 percent of those arrested in the Twin Cities on Friday were from outside Minnesota.

The demographics of a largely white, young, and destructive group fit more with a movement known as accelerationists than Black Lives Matter.

The accelerationists, if you have never heard the term, are an extreme subset of white nationalism whose goal is to bring about chaos and destruction. The basic tenet of accelerationism argues that since Western governments are inherently corrupt, the best (and only) thing supremacists can do is to accelerate the end of society by sowing chaos and aggravating political tensions. “Accelerationist ideas have been cited in mass shooters’ manifestos — explicitly, in the case of the New Zealand killer — and are frequently referenced in white supremacist web forums and chat rooms,” Zack Beauchamp explained.

White Supremacists pretending to host a protest to honor Floyd George on Facebook to whip up violence in San Diego were posted on Black Lives Matter-San Diego social media, warning people not to go and that it was a white supremacist-organized rally. People attending demonstrations remarked on the fact that the demographics were wrong in places like Oakland, where the majority of the destruction was perpetrated by young, Caucasian men, and has inspired not just people on social media but reporting in the mainstream media to properly question whether this is a form of infiltration by outside extremist elements.

Far-Right Infiltrators and Agitators in George Floyd Protests: Indicators of White Supremacists

Regarding the armed neo-Nazi invasion of Chalottesville, Trump opined, "You also had people that were very fine people, on both sides.
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That proves the old saying: a lie will go around the world before the truth can go across town.
 
TheDoctorWasIn said:
I posted this in another thread, but it fits better here.

Riots are the language of the unheard.

They're not rational acts - they are a mob-driven phenomena. Expressions of the collective conscious.

Trump, in his pitifully faux-aggressive tweets, is trying to draw on the "law and order" appeal to older boomers - but he hasn't grasped how the world has changed.

The moment the "military" comes in and bullets start flying, innocent protestors will die.

And all those boomers remember Kent State.

Which is why Trump's comments are - yet again- lies he tells to appease his base.
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I agree. We can’t overlook the racism of people acting like whites have never rioted. Every race has rioted for the same reasons. Historically, there is rioting, unrest, and protest in response to oppressive governments. It happened in German concentration camps and Soviet gulags. It happens because people are unheard, oppressed, and want change. When people were protesting and rioting against the USSR and even after the Union ended, I think Americans had a different response than they are having to this. There was a ton of violence, and it started spreading to Yugoslavia. My point is, oppressed people and social unrest lead to this, and more violence is not the solution. America shouldn’t act like the USSR and start killing these people. If the country attempts to address the underlying issue, the rioting and unrest will stop. People are rational beings. The changed this movement wants and demands is well known
 
Somerville said:
Who is lying? The mayor of St Paul saying every person arrested was from another state? You are saying that he is lying?
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Can you prove he isn't lying? He said it, so it has to be the truth becsuse politicians never lie?
 
calamity said:
Yes, it always has been the Right Wing dream to see our military start killing American Citizens.
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Says the guy that lost his **** over the pro-2A rallies. :lamo
 
apdst said:
The military wasn't unleashed on the Davidians.

The Davidians weren't destroying private property and murdering innocents.
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They didn’t listen to the government authority, they were under FBI investigation, their leader was a child rapist, and they held people in the compound against their will. Despite all their wrongdoing, I don’t support the federal government killing them. That’s the difference between you and me.
 
apdst said:
You're defending terrorists.
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How is that unlike getting giddy over the prospect of our Military gunning down civilians?
 
SheWolf said:
They didn’t listen to the government authority, they were under FBI investigation, their leader was a child rapist, and they held people in the compound against their will. Despite all their wrongdoing, I don’t support the federal government killing them. That’s the difference between you and me.
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So, they deserved to be set afire and burned to death?
 
calamity said:
How is that unlike getting giddy over the prospect of our Military gunning down civilians?
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I can just imagine how giddy you are over these riots.
 
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