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AP: Pentagon readies force to invade … Minneapolis?

Questerr said:
So what you are saying is that if the government commits one wrong, that justifies citizens committing another wrong in order to get back at the government?

Or does that only apply to white people?
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You’re talking to Apdst. He told me to go back to my ****hole. He is not a classy guy
 
pocket aces said:
Awesome post. Kaepernick was openly mocked and ridiculed for trying to peacefully bring awareness to an issue that has been going on and ignored for decades by they very people who are now attacking the protesters. Maybe if they would have opened their eyes instead of claiming everyone who dared to say anything was anti America, we wouldn't be seeing this violence now.
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They told us to ignore neo nazis. Why can’t they ignore Kapernick, BLM, and the riots?
 
apdst said:
The authorities were breaking the law.
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Authorities actually broke the law this time. I don’t recall a police officer kneeling on Bundy’s neck until he died
 
Michael Johnson said:
What I find ironic is that they didn't lay one hair on the fired cop who actually did the killing. Yet in their sick criminal minds innocent people deserved to be stabbed and shot and businesses (old and new) deserved to be destroyed.
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Pretty sure they would hang the murder cop if they could get ahold of him. Or it would probably degennerate into a stompfest where the crowd stomps on him about 10,000 times.
 
dirtpoorchris said:
Pretty sure they would hang the murder cop if they could get ahold of him. Or it would probably degennerate into a stompfest where the crowd stomps on him about 10,000 times.
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Wrong. They barely touched the man's house. And they didn't do squat to him when they were recording it live, which also further displays the criminal hypocrisy of Libs and Dems. All they cared about was social media clicks and a crap excuse to wreck havoc on the innocent.
 
SheWolf said:
You and apdst should be offended by what the cops did. Instead, you’re attacking an entire group of people who are being routinely brutalized and killed. I recently left a protest, and there was no violence. We are not all rioting. Please don’t stawman and distract from the real issue, police brutality
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In other threads I support the arrest and charges against the LEO.

Peaceful protest is one thing I support. Are you saying it is justified to burn and loot a private business because of what happened to Floyd? Even in Phoenix last two nights the peaceful protest turned violent. Damage was done to buildings, vehicles, etc.

SheWolf , I agree with many of your past posts on different topics. I am glad your protest was peaceful. However, are you saying the burned out police station, the looting of private businesses is not tied to the Floyd incident.

I realize there are those who protest peaceably. Then there are those who use a protest as an excuse to do damage.
 
apdst said:
At some point the riots have to be quelled. They can't be alliwed to just fizzle out on their own.
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Not my zoo, not my monkeys. We cant let the city and state governors let their states go to hell and expect servicemen to go in and bear the brunt of straightening out their ****. The long term repercussions and trends there are untenable. They need a better working solution. States have militias. They need to activate them.
 
apdst said:
Another stupid comparison. :lamo

The Davidians never left their private property. Not one civilian, nor their private property injured, or damaged by the Davidians.
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They were under investigation. The leader was pedo rapist who refused to release people. They refused to surrender, and they refused to do as told by government authority. They weren’t entirely innocent. When a black male doesn’t do as told by a government authority figure with a badge, that’s enough for him to deserve to be executed.

If Trump did what you wanted... if the pentagon unleashed an invasion on Minneapolis and killed hundreds and thousands of black protesters, it would back fire so bad on Trump. I also think Donald Trump knows that, and Donald Trump more than likely will not send in government forces to kill a bunch of people.
 
apdst said:
They destroying private property. That's a stupid idea.
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I understand where your coming from and I'm torn on the position myself.
My observation is that I see a group of people who want to deystroy everything, another group of people who excuse it and a 3rd group of people who are caught up in something they dont want. Im empathetic to that 3rd group of people. The other two groups I have lost any tollerance for.

Im not going to be advocate to give aid to people who are invested in the politics of self destruction. Lets give darwinism its turn.

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apdst said:
Because the city and the state have lost control. The Federal government is obligated to step in at this point.
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Actually, things are calming down. Unleashing the military in private citizens is not the solution
 
apdst said:
Soldiers took an oath to defend against enemies foreign and domestic. These eggheads are the enemy.
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This is the most unAnerican unconstitutional thing I have ever read. Americans break laws, but Americans still have rights. Unleashing the American military on its own people is never excusable
 
VanceMack said:
Not my zoo, not my monkeys. We cant let the city and state governors let their states go to hell and expect servicemen to go in and bear the brunt of straightening out their ****. The long term repercussions and trends there are untenable. They need a better working solution. States have militias. They need to activate them.
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Agreed, but Trump needs to act fast as cities across the country are using a dead man as an excuse to act like a bunch of monkeys. If left unchecked it will spill into sane communities like the Rodney King incident.
 
VanceMack said:
Not my zoo, not my monkeys. We cant let the city and state governors let their states go to hell and expect servicemen to go in and bear the brunt of straightening out their ****. The long term repercussions and trends there are untenable. They need a better working solution. States have militias. They need to activate them.
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The governer of Minnesota has already publicly stated that things have grown beyond his control.

Doing nothing will only embolden the terrorists.

A law enforcement solution is out of the question at this point. The only other options are send in a military force, or just let things burn out. The latter would be far worse than the former.
 
SheWolf said:
They were under investigation. The leader was pedo rapist who refused to release people. They refused to surrender, and they refused to do as told by government authority. They weren’t entirely innocent. When a black male doesn’t do as told by a government authority figure with a badge, that’s enough for him to deserve to be executed.

If Trump did what you wanted... if the pentagon unleashed an invasion on Minneapolis and killed hundreds and thousands of black protesters, it would back fire so bad on Trump. I also think Donald Trump knows that, and Donald Trump more than likely will not send in government forces to kill a bunch of people.
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The Davidians were burned to death, in case you didn't know.
 
Michael Johnson said:
LOL the criminal supporting posts here have me rolling back in my seat.
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I'm not surprised one bit. These are the same people who have been telling us how they support law and order and are real American patriots.
 
SheWolf said:
You and apdst should be offended by what the cops did. Instead, you’re attacking an entire group of people who are being routinely brutalized and killed. I recently left a protest, and there was no violence. We are not all rioting. Please don’t stawman and distract from the real issue, police brutality
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I am offended by what the cops did. I'm equally offended by what these ****ing animals are doing.
 
SheWolf said:
I am at a protest. I am not terrorizing nor being terrorized. We are all protesting police brutality. We are not all rioting
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Good for you.
 
mike2810 said:
From the OP article:
"Can Trump actually order such a domestic deployment? Under the Insurrection Act of 1807, yes, and it has been done before. In fact, that’s precisely what happened in the Rodney King riots in Los Angeles. Technically speaking, the law requires an actual “insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy,” but Walz’ comments make that a fairly easy case for the White House to make. It also requires that the emergency deprives US citizens of “a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law,” and that “the constituted authorities of that State are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection.” Right now, that sounds like a very good description of Minnesota’s position, as businesses burn and the state orders citizens to remain in their homes while disorder prevails."
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This is surreal. Trump used Saturday morning messages to declare himself safe inside the White House, lash out at a Democratic mayor, and raise the prospect of the Secret Service unleashing dogs and "ominous weapons" on the unrepentant protesters.

You heard right.

"Great job last night at the White House by the U.S. @SecretService. They were not only totally professional, but very cool. I was inside, watched every move, and couldn't have felt more safe," Trump said on Twitter.

He said the Secret Service "let the 'protesters' scream & rant as much as they wanted, but whenever someone...got too frisky or out of line, they would quickly come down on them, hard - didn't know what hit them. If they had they would...have been greeted with the most vicious dogs, and most ominous weapons, I have ever seen. That's when people would have been really badly hurt, at least."

This man is sick, and with his constant firing of members of his own government, he has been out of control since the Trump Republican Senate vindicated him.

To give some idea how desperate Trump is, as shown by this thread and other threads, his supporters have totally given up on him. Those opposed to Trump's nutty antics are being given free rein.

Even GOP leaders in Congress are avoiding what Trump does and says. They are extremely vulnerable with Trump as the party leader, and they must divest themselves from the President, a precarious position to be in, for sure.
 
I posted this in another thread, but it fits better here.

Riots are the language of the unheard.

They're not rational acts - they are a mob-driven phenomena. Expressions of the collective conscious.

Trump, in his pitifully faux-aggressive tweets, is trying to draw on the "law and order" appeal to older boomers - but he hasn't grasped how the world has changed.

The moment the "military" comes in and bullets start flying, innocent protestors will die.

And all those boomers remember Kent State.

Which is why Trump's comments are - yet again- lies he tells to appease his base.
 
Sandy Shanks said:
This is surreal. Trump used Saturday morning messages to declare himself safe inside the White House, lash out at a Democratic mayor, and raise the prospect of the Secret Service unleashing dogs and "ominous weapons" on the unrepentant protesters.
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Some deal in conjecture. What Trump might do.

I deal in reality. What Trump has done.
 
apdst said:
They're rioting, not protesting.
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I protested. I did not riot. I will keep protesting police brutality. We are not all rioting
 
mike2810 said:
In other threads I support the arrest and charges against the LEO.

Peaceful protest is one thing I support. Are you saying it is justified to burn and loot a private business because of what happened to Floyd? Even in Phoenix last two nights the peaceful protest turned violent. Damage was done to buildings, vehicles, etc.

SheWolf , I agree with many of your past posts on different topics. I am glad your protest was peaceful. However, are you saying the burned out police station, the looting of private businesses is not tied to the Floyd incident.

I realize there are those who protest peaceably. Then there are those who use a protest as an excuse to do damage.
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We are not all rioting and destroying property. I am not going to do it.
 
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