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Flynn/Kislyak transcripts released

So how do they hope to help Flynn's case by showing that he was working with the Russian government against America's interest?
 
LOL You are a self admitted hater of anything conservative/republican according to the post you made a few days ago. I see nothing but hate in your posts.

No idea what you are trying to lie about and I don't care. Do you have anything meaningful to say on the subject, or are you stuck in the usual troll-left-by-idiotic-dishonesty mode?
 
Like has been said over and over again, he took the plea to end the expense of a defense.

Not very believable. A quick google search comes up with over 100 conservative legal aid groups. Odd not a single one stepped up to help defend an 'innocent' patriotic veteran... :confused:

There are dozens of multi-billionaires who seem to jump at the chance to defend conservatives from the deep state- where were they?

Let's not forget he lied to Pence (given as the reason for his termination)

Flynn was in the military for decades, he should be well aware of several facts- never lie to the investigators and even the UCMJ has 5th amendment protections in Art31.

All arguments supporting the farce of Flynn's innocence are vapid... :peace
 
So how do they hope to help Flynn's case by showing that he was working with the Russian government against America's interest?

How is ANY of what was said "working against America's interest"? Are you suggesting that Obama intended to instigate a harsh reaction from Russia? What would Obama's purpose be in doing something like that and how would THAT in in the interests of the US?
 
So how do they hope to help Flynn's case by showing that he was working with the Russian government against America's interest?

You know how we know the republicans don't think this is helpful? They dropped it on a Friday afternoon. If they thought this was good for them it would drop on a Monday morning.
 
What this shows is what we already knew, that Flynn actively worked against the official foreign policy of the President of the United States and then lied about when asked.

Seems like he was right to plead guilty.
 
What this shows is what we already knew, that Flynn actively worked against the official foreign policy of the President of the United States and then lied about when asked.

Seems like he was right to plead guilty.

That implies that Obama's official policy was to escalate hostilities with Russia. Do you seriously believe that was Obama's intent and, if so, how was THAT policy in the interests of the United States?
 
Then there are the two times Flynn pleaded, (i always thought “pled was the past tense of plead,) guilty.....?


Me as well, pleaded just doesn't sound correct but I guess it is...
 
What this shows is what we already knew, that Flynn actively worked against the official foreign policy of the President of the United States and then lied about when asked.

Seems like he was right to plead guilty.

Until Trump hired Barr, then everything began to change...
 
Flynn Calls 1 | Politics | International Relations | Free 30-day Trial | Scribd

I've read through what there is and, for those interested in some "smoking gun" WRT Flynn, well, good luck with that.

I won't say that sanctions weren't discussed but if I was going to open up a Logan Act case based on the conversation...well.....there just ain't a whole lot there.

Very uncharacteristically Putin did not retaliate against Obama's sanctions. Replying within days of Flynn's phone call, Putin announced that he would take the matter up with incoming administration.

No doubt, with something as important as this, there were other negotiations between Trump's transition team and the Russian government. To assume Putin's statement was a result of one phone call with the Russian ambassador is not very bright.

The fact is, Trump's people interfered with the President's policy regarding a hostile foreign government.
 
That implies that Obama's official policy was to escalate hostilities with Russia. Do you seriously believe that was Obama's intent and, if so, how was THAT policy in the interests of the United States?

It doesn't really matter now does it?

Flynn had zero authority to do what he did. He knew this and he lied about it.

Pretty much exactly what we knew happened.
 
LOL

You are a self admitted hater of anything conservative/republican according to the post you made a few days ago.

I see nothing but hate in your posts.

:lol:

Such raging hypocrisy.
 
Very uncharacteristically Putin did not retaliate against Obama's sanctions. Replying within days of Flynn's phone call, Putin announced that he would take the matter up with incoming administration.

No doubt, with something as important as this, there were other negotiations between Trump's transition team and the Russian government. To assume Putin's statement was a result of one phone call with the Russian ambassador is not very bright.

The fact is, Trump's people interfered with the President's policy regarding a hostile foreign government.

I can understand that. I mean, by December 29th who would have suspected that Donald Trump would be president? It was a total secret to everyone that Obama would leave office and a new administration would come in. Putin must have been totally shocked that his plan to dethrone both Hillary and Obama had worked so well.

:roll:
 
It doesn't really matter now does it?

Flynn had zero authority to do what he did. He knew this and he lied about it.

Pretty much exactly what we knew happened.

It doesn't matter? It mattered in your comment! If Obama was trying to antagonize Russia into taking extreme measures in retaliation for the sanctions then there MUST have been a reason for that. What could that reason possibly be? You seem smart. I'm sure you can figure it out.
 
It doesn't matter? It mattered in your comment! If Obama was trying to antagonize Russia into taking extreme measures in retaliation for the sanctions then there MUST have been a reason for that. What could that reason possibly be? You seem smart. I'm sure you can figure it out.

Losing focus here.

There point is that Flynn was operating outside of his authority and lied about it.

He pled guilty because they had him dead to rights.
 
Losing focus here.

There point is that Flynn was operating outside of his authority and lied about it.

He pled guilty because they had him dead to rights.

He wasn't acting outside his authority in the least and he took the plea because he was broke and doing so would stop the financial bleeding
 
Did he discuss sanctions or not? He did. So he lied to the FBI. Why? Why didn't he just tell the truth or say he didn't want to discuss it? Why did he need to lie? Why did so many in Trump's campaign need to lie?
I'll tell you why. They were afraid the American people wouldn't like it if they learned the Trump campaign was negotiating and working with an enemy nation.
That's the simple truth. Why can't you accept it? Oh, because it's party before truth, just like the Soviets, right Comrade?


He didn't.

Sean Davis twitter:

Mueller specifically accused Flynn of lying about discussing financial sanctions levied pursuant to Executive Order 13757. We now know Flynn only discussed expulsions done by the State Dept. and never discussed EO 13757 financial sanctions. Mueller lied.

Flynn and Kislyak discussed expulsions, not the executive order-mandated financial sanctions explicitly cited by Mueller in his charging documents.
The transcripts prove Mueller, not Flynn, lied about Flynn’s conversations.




"... The executive order signed by Obama and referenced by Mueller had nothing to do with expulsions of Russian diplomats, which was the topic of Flynn’s conversations with Kislyak. ..."

Declassified Flynn Transcripts Contradict Key Claims Made By Mueller
 
He wasn't acting outside his authority in the least and he took the plea because he was broke and doing so would stop the financial bleeding

He took the plea because they had him on a whole bunch of other stuff.

That is why people take a plea deal.

Don't believe me that they had him on a bunch of other stuff?

Go read his plea deal.
 
He didn't.

Sean Davis twitter:

Mueller specifically accused Flynn of lying about discussing financial sanctions levied pursuant to Executive Order 13757. We now know Flynn only discussed expulsions done by the State Dept. and never discussed EO 13757 financial sanctions. Mueller lied.

Flynn and Kislyak discussed expulsions, not the executive order-mandated financial sanctions explicitly cited by Mueller in his charging documents.
The transcripts prove Mueller, not Flynn, lied about Flynn’s conversations.




"... The executive order signed by Obama and referenced by Mueller had nothing to do with expulsions of Russian diplomats, which was the topic of Flynn’s conversations with Kislyak. ..."

Declassified Flynn Transcripts Contradict Key Claims Made By Mueller

They were talking about sanctions in the Dec 29th call.

They were specifically talking about sanctions levied against the individuals and entities that were issued from this Executive order. Executive Order -- "Blocking the Property of Certain Persons Engaging in Significant Malicious Cyber-Enabled Activities" | whitehouse.gov
 
They were talking about sanctions in the Dec 29th call.

They were specifically talking about sanctions levied against the individuals and entities that were issued from this Executive order. Executive Order -- "Blocking the Property of Certain Persons Engaging in Significant Malicious Cyber-Enabled Activities" | whitehouse.gov


Can you point to that particular conversation, please? Thank you!

https://www.grassley.senate.gov/sit...05-29 ODNI to CEG RHJ (Flynn Transcripts).pdf
 
Can you point to that particular conversation, please? Thank you!

https://www.grassley.senate.gov/sit...05-29 ODNI to CEG RHJ (Flynn Transcripts).pdf

It's the Dec 29th call.

The section starts with Kislyak.

KISLYAK: We agree. One of the problems among the measures that have been announced today is that now FSB and GRU are sanctions, are sanctioned, and I ask myself, uh~ does it mean that the United States isn't willing to work on terrorist threats?

Now that is referencing the economic sanctions that President Obama placed that day. as spelled out in this Executive Order. Executive Order -- "Blocking the Property of Certain Persons Engaging in Significant Malicious Cyber-Enabled Activities" | whitehouse.gov


Kislyak then goes on to say that these people are fighting terrorists and you want to help fight the terrorists... right?


Flynn's response was first about expulsions.

FLYNN: And please make sure that its uh - the idea is, be -if you~ if you have to do something, do something on a reciprocal basis, meaning you know, on a sort of an even basis. Then that, then that is a good message and we'll understand that message. And, and then, we know that we're not going to escalate this thing, where we~ where because if we put out-ifwe send out 30 guys and you send out 60, you know, or you shut down every Embassy, r mean we have to get this to a -lefs, let's keep this at a level that uh is, is even-keeled, okay? ls even-keeled. And then what we can do is, when we come in, we can then have a better conversation about where, where we're gonna go, uh~ regarding uh, regarding our relationship


It is then reiterated that this will all get hashed out after the inauguration.

They 100% discussed the economic sanctions.

And remember... both men knew that they were being recorded.
 
Flynn Calls 1 | Politics | International Relations | Free 30-day Trial | Scribd

I've read through what there is and, for those interested in some "smoking gun" WRT Flynn, well, good luck with that.

I won't say that sanctions weren't discussed but if I was going to open up a Logan Act case based on the conversation...well.....there just ain't a whole lot there.


The transcripts will not make a difference to a leftist, the same as the Ukraine call. They are not interested in actually achieving truth, but will continue with the farce, pushing false narrative after false narrative....watch them.
 
As usual, people see what they want to see. The Trumpsters think this is good for Flynn, while most people with functioning minds see it for the reality: Flynn lied, and he was willing to make deals with a foreign adversary before he really got into his job.
 
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