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Republican Voters Against Trump

noonereal said:
i am a republican never Trumper

Trump has nothing to do with the republican party nor is he a conservative, he is fiscally irresponsible

He does parrot socially conservative issues but could care less about them or the idiots that vote for him.
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Instead, you would vote for a man who is not a conservative, is not fiscally responsible, is committed to promoting whatever progressive agenda is placed before him as long as it gets him elected, who will nominate progressive supreme court justices to the lifetime appointments and liberal federal judges to dictate not by the democratic republic process but by judicial activism, who will support the open border policies of the previous administration............

but you are a 'republican'.
 
VanceMack said:
Instead, you would vote for a man who is not a conservative, is not fiscally responsible, is committed to promoting whatever progressive agenda is placed before him as long as it gets him elected, who will nominate progressive supreme court justices to the lifetime appointments and liberal federal judges to dictate not by the democratic republic process but by judicial activism, who will support the open border policies of the previous administration............

but you are a 'republican'.
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You forgot to mention the part where ol Joe sells out to China, but otherwise, good post.
 
Mycroft said:
Trump enjoys around 95% support from the Republican Party.

I'm thinking these "Republican Voters Against Trump" can be dismissed.
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If you'll look at the link, you'll see that a lot of the people on it are in swing states, or Republican states trending Democratic. Of course, these are just a few people, but if they are indicative of a softening of Trumps support in swing states among Republicans it could mean trouble.
 
azgreg said:
I believe you'll find about a 40% support for the letter (R or D) regardless of the candidate. It's that middle group that decides elections and Trump is wearing thin in that middle group.
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I'm not seeing a whole lot of "middle" in America these days. You've got the "anybody but Trump" crowd and the "anybody but a Democrat" crowd but not much "I haven't decided yet" anywhere that I've seen.
 
Republicans For Joe Biden

Look, we are conservatives, but if we need to choose between a conspiracy theorist, unhinged buffoon, a laughingstock clown, a corrupt sociopath “Republican” President to a decent compassionate Democratic Joe Biden, we will choose the latter in a heartbeat. #CountryOverParty
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bearpoker said:
If you'll look at the link, you'll see that a lot of the people on it are in swing states, or Republican states trending Democratic. Of course, these are just a few people, but if they are indicative of a softening of Trumps support in swing states among Republicans it could mean trouble.
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Let me know when you have more than an "if".
 
azgreg said:
Republican Voters Against Trump





See there stories at the link.
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I think this is overblown. Back in 2016 there was so much talk about the Never Trumpers, yet 88% of Republicans voted for Trump, 8% for Clinton, 4% for third party candidate. Comparing the Democrats, 89% of them voted for Hillary, 8% for Trump and 3% third party. The historical average is 90% of both Republicans and democrats will vote for their party's candidate.

https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls

Today, those numbers break down for November as 87% of republicans voting for Trump, 6% for Biden with the last 7% stating other or unsure. The Democrats have close to the same percentages, 87% voting for Biden, 4% for Trump, with 9% stating they'll vote third party or are unsure, undecided.

Again close to the historical average of 90%, perhaps come November when the undecided's make up their minds we'll be at that 90% and maybe a point or so above. If the above numbers hold, it won't be the two major parties members who decide 2020, it'll be independents, swing voters. In 2016, swing voters, independents went for Trump 46-42 over Hillary with 12% voting against both major party candidates, Trump won.

Independents today make up 40% of the electorate. I'd forget about the Never Trumpers and concentrate on winning independents. Those swing voters will decide who is the next president, Biden or Trump. FYI, according to Gallup Republicans make up 28% of the electorate, Democrats 31%. Comparing those numbers, one should see how important independents are, independents is a group Hillary mostly ignored in 2016, Biden can't afford that.
 
Jetboogieman said:
There is an explanation actually.

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Except I know from experience not all of them are stupid.

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roguenuke said:
Except I know from experience not all of them are stupid.

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No, but the republican "group think" certainly lowers them to that level.
 
SCrider said:
No, but the republican "group think" certainly lowers them to that level.
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Like the Soviets they place their ideological goals above the truth.
 
SCrider said:
No, but the republican "group think" certainly lowers them to that level.
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This I won't argue with. Certain groups of liberals/Dems get it too, and some libertarians, but they are in much smaller groups and its not nearly as large for the number of issues I see it manifest with Republicans (not all but many) for.

For instance, it seems like its much easier to find a Dem who is for limiting immigration, for enforcing the laws and holding employers responsible, against sanctuary cities, than it is to find a Repub against the wall being built even, let alone the opposite of the rest of those things.

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Bassman said:
You mean some limpwrist RINO like Bob Dull, McStain or (gag) Romney? Pass. We need hardcore Conservatives.
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I would disagree, extremism in any form is bad for a country.
 
Bassman said:
IOW a RINO. If you don't support the social agenda, you are NOT a real Conservative.
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i am a republican, not a conservative.

that said, i am a fiscal conservative.

socially, i think as little of you as did Bush and does Trump
 
Bassman said:
You mean some limpwrist RINO like Bob Dull, McStain or (gag) Romney? Pass. We need hardcore Conservatives.
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You LITERALLY do not know what a conservative is.

But you are controlled well by the toothless leader.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Until we see a real drop in support for him in the polls this doesn't mean much.

He seems to maintain around 40% of the country no matter what he does.
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Democrats haven't realized that their candidates are not popular outside of die hard democrats who would vote Trump if he had run as a democrat. The reasons Trump is popular is outside the understanding of a democrat.
 
VanceMack said:
Instead, you would vote for a man who is not a conservative, is not fiscally responsible, is committed to promoting whatever progressive agenda is placed before him as long as it gets him elected, who will nominate progressive supreme court justices to the lifetime appointments and liberal federal judges to dictate not by the democratic republic process but by judicial activism, who will support the open border policies of the previous administration............

but you are a 'republican'.
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Trump is not a rational actor which goes far beyond policy.

No true American would vote for Trump.

He is a candidate for the "loser." The failed. The unhappy and those refusing to take stock of the mess they made for themselves.
 
noonereal said:
Trump is not a rational actor which goes far beyond policy.

No true American would vote for Trump.

He is a candidate for the "loser." The failed. The unhappy and those refusing to take stock of the mess they made for themselves.
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You are a 'republican' that would have rather had Hilary Clinton place 2 supreme court justices.

Yeah...you are one of THOSE 'republicans'.
 
VanceMack said:
You are a 'republican' that would have rather had Hilary Clinton place 2 supreme court justices.

Yeah...you are one of THOSE 'republicans'.
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Yes. I am an educated responsible Republican. Nothing to do with Trumpism which overtook the GOP.
 
noonereal said:
Yes. I am an educated responsible Republican. Nothing to do with Trumpism which overtook the GOP.
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Riiiiiiiight. SUUUUUUUUURE you are...that would have rather had a piece of **** like Hillary Clinton elected and appoint lifetime progressives to the court.
 
bearpoker said:
I'd like to see a coalition of people respectful of each other and focused on uniting the country on the basis of the values we share.
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What a crock of ****.

Any time a conservative disagrees with you liberals............... you all go full ape ****.

Unification my ass!
 
VanceMack said:
Riiiiiiiight. SUUUUUUUUURE you are...that would have rather had a piece of **** like Hillary Clinton elected and appoint lifetime progressives to the court.
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yes

i know this is to cerebral for you, you are a TRump champion
 
RetiredUSN said:
What a crock of ****.

Any time a conservative disagrees with you liberals............... you all go full ape ****.

Unification my ass!
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you are the problem, this simple post makes that clear
 
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