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Trump to sign revenge-EO targeting social media

Mr Person said:
Court: getting "spanked" would energize his base but screw that, he should be.

Election: I'd love that. Trump feuding with Fox, feuding with Twitter, a smaller circle of rats too scared to jump ship? Please do. I need hope.



I've always been cynical. But now....now for once.... now...

I need a little hope. I need hope.



Hell, who am I kidding? Cold trudge, cradle to grave.
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It reminds me of the final scene in Aguirre, the Wrath of God.

 
The draft of the EO is out. Its about 6 pages. It does invoke section 230 eligibility and says sites like FBand twitter are part of the "public square" per a supreme court case which I already forgot. There are so more specific actions but they seem flaccid to me.
 
Oh, Big Brother, where art thou?


"...The draft order also requires the Attorney General to establish a working group including state attorneys general that will examine the enforcement of state laws that prohibit online platforms from engaging in unfair and deceptive acts.

The working group will also monitor or create watch-lists of users based on their interactions with content or other users...."

Trump's executive order targets political bias at Twitter and Facebook: draft - Reuters​
 
Craig234 said:
Not even close. Babies are not so dishonest and evil.
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And yet democrats can still kill them up to several minutes after they are born, depending on the mood of the executioners.
 
An interesting observation about Trump: he appears to act impulsively, almost off the cuff ("Space Force: it has a nice ring to it.") when in fact it's been worked through entirely and is ready to unveil.

Doubt Trump at your own peril.
 
marke said:
He did. 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., Washington DC. Been there a while. Looks like he is going to remain there for a while.
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Whoosh!
 
TobyOne said:
The draft of the EO is out. Its about 6 pages. It does invoke section 230 eligibility and says sites like FBand twitter are part of the "public square" per a supreme court case which I already forgot. There are so more specific actions but they seem flaccid to me.
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If they did revoke 230 eligibility, then twitter would have to ban Trump from twitter...[emoji12]

PS. They have no ability to determine whether these companies have a 230 defense, courts make that determination, not the executive branch.


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veritas1 said:
Google, Facebook Twitter and You Tube should just come clean and admit that they're liberals, that they facilitate the liberal agenda and that they try to censor conservatives. It's their right to do so and everyone knows they do it so acknowledging what is already well known shouldn't be a problem.
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That's total BS. Why then has Trump gotten away with posting thousands of lies over the years? If they were true liberals, they would have censured him. They have been silent about it.

All Twitter did was post a warning to it's readers that they ought to fact check the Tweets. They did not take them down. Trump cannot issue any EO that will hold weight. He's just a little child having a Trumper Tantrum. He's just freaking out that someone actually called out one of his thousands of lies.
 
I like that republicans support Donald Trump constantly lying. Our kids need to see that.
 
CaughtInThe said:
I like that republicans support Donald Trump constantly lying. Our kids need to see that.
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That's just another one of many examples of terrible leadership. Just a little under 5.5 more months of this clown show.
 
TobyOne said:
The draft of the EO is out. Its about 6 pages. It does invoke section 230 eligibility and says sites like FBand twitter are part of the "public square" per a supreme court case which I already forgot. There are so more specific actions but they seem flaccid to me.
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It cites Pruneyard.

It is all so stupid.
 
The AntiDonald said:
That's just another one of many examples of terrible leadership. Just a little under 5.5 more months of this clown show.
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he's not a leader. he creates chaos and hopes to benefit financially from it.
 
Jezcoe said:
Here is the draft of the EO if anyone cares.

https://kateklonick.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/DRAFT-EO-Preventing-Online-Censorship.pdf

Couldn't do it without doing a little China bashing on the way in.

They are really transparent with this.
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It's great fodder for idiots who have not idea how telecommunications law actually works... It looks like it really does something but in reality, it can safely be ignored by all these providers. Companies don't get "granted" 230 protections, they invoke them when sued... Courts determine whether they qualify for that protection, not the executive branch...
 
Twitter will not be allowed to influence or alter human speech. Twitter speaks for nobody

-VySky
 
come on. this Trump era has exposed all the Republicans who swore they were for law & order, were Christians, were small government, wouldn't take welfare, were against our debt, etc.


i love it. we knew they were liars and then they proved it.
 
Mr Person said:
The only real questions are: (1) whether it's just more hot air and someone will talk his wannabe dicatator ass down, (2) if it does what he threatens, how quickly courts will smack it down, (3) just how small (one hopes) the probability is that law enforcement would enforce it despite court decisions smacking it down


President Donald Trump is expected to sign an executive order aimed at social media companies on Thursday, White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany told reporters Wednesday evening, a move that comes as the president and his allies have escalated their allegations that companies like Twitter and Facebook stifle GOP voices. McEnany told reporters aboard Air Force One that the order is “pertaining to social media” but shared no additional details on what it will do. Trump and his supporters have been hammering Twitter since the social network labeled a pair of his tweets with a fact-checking notice for the first time on Tuesday, and the president pledged Wednesday that "big action" will follow.

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Trump to sign executive order on social media amid Twitter furor - POLITICO

Trump Will Sign an Executive Order on Social Media Companies: White House Spokeswoman - The New York Times


Earlier Wednesday, Trump warned social media giants that the federal government could “strongly regulate” or “close them down” if they continue to “silence conservative voices,” amid his flaring battle with Twitter after the platform fact-checked one of his tweets for the first time this week.

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White House says Trump will sign an executive order on social media | Fox News



The media companies engaged in political speech - the core of first amendment protections against government punishment/interference, the core of which in turn is protection against actions based on content of speech - to punish the lot and cow others because twitter fact-checked his constant lies in tweets. They would be free under the 1st to delete his account. But they didn't. Twitter just put a fact checker on his tweets because he keeps lying. Now he's saying he's going to sign an EO targeting them.

That's right. Twitter stood on its first amendment right to engage in political speech against government (Trump being leader of the executive branch of government, the authority of which these so-called conservatives pretend to stand against)). And a leader of one of government's branches is squawking about signing an unspecified executive order targeting social media because of this.

Will Trumpists cheer this on? Defend it? Will the usual suspects line up with diversions in the first ten posts? Let's see what the order contains and what they say. If it's like most things Trump, it'll be 100% bark, 0% bite. The announcement tests the waters. He'll spend tomorrow morning watching Fox instead of working. And then we'll see.

But more importantly, let's see what Trumpists will do as compared to what they say.

I know my bet: the most ardent will straight-up defend it, lying about first amendment jurisprudence in the process. A good number will pretend to criticize it, saying they "don't like it" or "don't agree", but not one of them will change their minds. At most, if a miracle strikes, there will be some words. No action.




So let us see what really happens, and when we do:

Remember when they pretend to care about America.

Remember when they pretend to love the constitution.

Remember when they chest-thump about their freedoms.

And always remember that actions so often speak far louder than words every could.
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I believe the House should look into bananaRepublicanism and how it negatively impacts our society.
 
BlueTex said:
LOL... Translate?
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We know what a persons post on social media represents and that is their opinion.

Who's unsolicited opinion do the 'fact checkers' represent?

-VySky
 
VySky said:
We know who a persons post on social media represents and that is their opinion.

Who's unsolicited opinion do the 'fact checkers' represent?

-VySky
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Anyone they want... Are you arguing that the government should determine who the "fact checkers" represent?
 
CaughtInThe said:
come on. this Trump era has exposed all the Republicans who swore they were for law & order, were Christians, were small government, wouldn't take welfare, were against our debt, etc.


i love it. we knew they were liars and then they proved it.
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40 million Americans out of work and the President is having a Twitter beef with Twitter.

Imagine if Obam...... oh never mind
 
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