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    Re: FBI investigation was in fact illegal and had no basis.

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Cole View Post
    What will they do when Durham turns up nothing?
    They'll just move on to the next conspiracy theory or the next investigation and then tell the dems wait until Mr. X gets done his investigation.

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    Re: FBI investigation was in fact illegal and had no basis.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sand Castle View Post
    The real investigation and conclusion, not Fox news Brock opinion on cherry picked facts

    Department of Justice (DOJ) Inspector General (IG) Michael Horowitz in Dec. 2019 released a 400-page report on his office’s investigation into Crossfire Hurricane, concluding that, despite a plethora of procedural failures, the FBI ultimately had a proper factual and legal basis for opening a full investigation into the Trump campaign’s possible coordination with Russia.



    Earlier this month, the Department of Justice released a copy of a memo authored by Rosenstein which outlined the scope of former special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election and the potentially criminal activity Mueller was authorized to examine.

    The memo showed that Rosenstein expressly approved of Mueller and his team investigating whether Carter Page committed any crimes by “colluding with the Russian government’s efforts to interfere with the 2016 election.” Rosenstein also approved probes into allegations against former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, former campaign aide George Papadopoulos, and former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn.

    Rod Rosenstein to Testify on Crossfire Hurricane | Law & Crime

    This is from the executive summary of the Horowitz report you're talking about -

    Additionally, given the low threshold for predication in the AG Guidelines and the DIOG, we concluded that the FFG information, provided by a government the United States Intelligence Community (USIC) deems trustworthy, and describing a first-hand account from an FFG employee of a conversation with Papadopoulos, was sufficient to predicate the investigation. This information provided the FBI with an articulable factual basis that, if true, reasonably indicated activity constituting either a federal crime or a threat to national security, or both, may have occurred or may be occurring. For similar reasons, as we detail in Chapter Three, we concluded that the quantum of information articulated by the FBI to open the individual investigations on Papadopoulos, Page, Flynn, and Manafort in August 2016 was sufficient to satisfy the low threshold established by the Department and the FBI.
    It does say that the predication for CH was sufficient considering the "low threshold" for such predication. What it doesn't say is that the "articulable factual basis" indicates that RUSSIA committed or planned to commit a crime, not Papadopolous.

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    Re: FBI investigation was in fact illegal and had no basis.

    Quote Originally Posted by Puigb View Post
    The GOP has failed miserably so far in trying to tar Biden and muddy the waters to try and help Trump's dying presidency. Expect more of this nonsense until November. They have nothing else.
    I find it very humorous the things they write trying to convince non trump supporters we're crazy and just don't understand the wonderful world of don.

    Trump, out of office, the senate, back in dem control, the house, more seats for the dems. The right thinks trump is one of them, a tough guy standing up for his and their rights. Sadly what he's really doing with their help is making the gop irrelevant for many years to come.

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    Re: FBI investigation was in fact illegal and had no basis.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    no it is called expert opinion.

    Kevin R. Brock, former assistant director of intelligence for the FBI, was an FBI special agent for 24 years and principal deputy director of the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC). He is a founder and principal of NewStreet Global Solutions, which consults with private companies and public safety agencies on strategic mission technologies.
    In your mind, opinions may equal facts, but not in the real world.
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    Re: FBI investigation was in fact illegal and had no basis.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Why so emotional?

    In any case, why do you disagree?
    I am not emotional but strongly disagree that this is all going to be covered up when the exact opposite is happening. Barr is doing an outstanding job. He appointed the U.S. atty whose investigation changed everything for Flynn. He has appointed another U.S. atty to assist with the un-masking abuse investigation. Durham's investigation didn't start out to be criminal but certainly is now while he has had to increase his staff twice due to every time he turns over a rock it exposes more crap. While I would love to see everything unclassified it can't be at this time. For all we know there have been those who have been indicted and they are currently sealed.

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    Re: FBI investigation was in fact illegal and had no basis.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    him Comey, McCabe, paige and a few others need to do some hard time for this.
    never should this ever happen again in our country.

    Never should we allow this sort of corruption out of our government.
    I hope that what is happening in all of this is that the case is being made iron clad.

    It's really too bad that our journalists are so biased and corrupt that they simply do NOT do their job(s).

    How could any journalist living and working through this not be excited to write about it?

    This is undoubtedly the biggest story since WW2 and they're hiding it!

    By the way they're acting, you'd ALMOST think they played a major role in committing the crimes they're hiding.
    We huh we'r we're it's it's a we're in the middle of a pandemic that has cost us more than 85,000 jobs as of today. Lives of billions of people. Millions of people. Millions of jobs. You know, we're in a position where, you know, we just got new unemployment insurance... -Joe Biden

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    Re: FBI investigation was in fact illegal and had no basis.

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    I hope that what is happening in all of this is that the case is being made iron clad.

    It's really too bad that our journalists are so biased and corrupt that they simply do NOT do their job(s).

    How could any journalist living and working through this not be excited to write about it?

    This is undoubtedly the biggest story since WW2 and they're hiding it!

    By the way they're acting, you'd ALMOST think they played a major role in committing the crimes they're hiding.
    Right now CNN and MSNBC NYtime and all the other anti-trump garbage news media
    have spent 4 years hyping their out of control supporters that trump was in league with russia.

    they spent billions of dollars in promoting this story and pushing this narrative now it is falling apart around their ears.
    do you honestly think these people are going to recant anything?
    facts don't care about your feelings.

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    Re: FBI investigation was in fact illegal and had no basis.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueTex View Post
    You are running out of time...
    Why? You are not suggesting that a hypothetical Biden Admin would obstruct justice, are you?

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    Re: FBI investigation was in fact illegal and had no basis.

    Quote Originally Posted by Athanasius68 View Post
    Why? You are not suggesting that a hypothetical Biden Admin would obstruct justice, are you?
    Of course not, but they will be releasing thousands and thousands of internal memos, emails, etc. from the Trump administration...

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    Re: FBI investigation was in fact illegal and had no basis.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueTex View Post
    Of course not, but they will be releasing thousands and thousands of internal memos, emails, etc. from the Trump administration...
    if its legal and pursuant to an investigation not sure what the issue would be.
    A lot of that stuff would be moved to the Trump Library and archives anyways and thus available to the public.

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