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Living In The Liberal UK Sucks

Winston said:
Conservatives have controlled UK parliament for quite some time now, with their latest rendition being Boris Johnson.
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Shhhhh. Hes on a roll
 
Winston said:
Conservatives have controlled UK parliament for quite some time now, with their latest rendition being Boris Johnson.
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Good God. OP exemplifies how Europeans look at the US as ignorant of everything outside of our borders. What they don't know is that those people are also ignorant of most things within our borders too.
 
“Pull” factors for moving abroad include more lucrative career opportunities, lower cost of living, higher quality of life, high quality childcare and education, lower crime levels, and good weather.

The UK’s “push” factors include fears over a no-deal Brexit, political issues, the cost of living, high taxes, low interest rates, a weak pound, the scrapping of some age-related benefits, quality of lifestyle, crime concerns, and the weather. These factors that encouraged people to relocate seem to have intensified for many expats, according to Green.

The survey found that the primary reason for relocation was work and career, with 44% of respondents citing this as the main factor in deciding to leave the UK."

This has been going on for decades. Cant say that I blame them. I spent 3 years in the UK..and there are a lot of things about it that I really love. But I wouldnt live there by choice.
 
Brexit was voted for by the people of Britain because they wanted to remain British instead of being ruled by the EU in Brussels. It was also a rejection of globalism. Globalism is a win for multi-national corporations, but not the working class. And the leftists are either too stupid or too bought out to see it.
 
Moderate Right said:
Democratic socialists always paint a rosy picture of life in the UK. Not so.



Nearly two thirds of Brits living abroad vow never to return to UK
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Isn't that a bit of a selection bias? They were motivated enough to leave in the first place so it would make sense they'll also be likely to stay gone.

I'm not excusing the UK. Im sure they have a lot of unique problems. I think even an overarching optimism or pessimism of a group of people could affect this sort of outlook.

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Winston said:
Conservatives have controlled UK parliament for quite some time now, with their latest rendition being Boris Johnson.
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Oh please. Our left look to Britain as being a liberal haven.
 
Grand Mal said:
No it does not. There's three couples here where I live, one with two kids, that all swear they'd never move back to the USA. All of them. That must mean living in the US sucks, huh?
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Ummmmmm, that is called deflection. Read the article, 2/3's of Britains living abroad wouldn't come back to live.
 
Mr Person said:
2/3rds of people who already decided they do not want to live in the UK say they do not want to live in the UK? Wow, compelling evidence you've got there.

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Actually, that is pretty compelling. The UK is not the Utopia that the left in the US believe it to be.
 
swing_voter said:
I bet it's due to it having a cheaper cost of living abroad. Stuff's expensive in the UK.
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The article actually mentioned that. Yes, liberal policies have made life in the UK very high priced indeed, not to mention their easy immigration policies make terrorism more prevalent there.
 
Winston said:
Conservatives have controlled UK parliament for quite some time now, with their latest rendition being Boris Johnson.
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The Tories have been in power for a while but the issue is more that of the social welfare state than the party that's in charge. All the Tories do is keep the social democracy status quo whereas Labor would expand it to the point that...well, the current party leadership pretty much just put the kibosh on an internal investigation regarding antisemitism in the party. I mean, what's the point of being a social democrat if you can't hate on the Jews?
 
Moderate Right said:
Ummmmmm, that is called deflection. Read the article, 2/3's of Britains living abroad wouldn't come back to live.
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Breaking news....


2/3 of people who order a pizza like pizza



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Mr Person said:
2/3rds of people who already decided they do not want to live in the UK say they do not want to live in the UK? Wow, compelling evidence you've got there.

:roll:
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Moderate Right said:
Actually, that is pretty compelling. The UK is not the Utopia that the left in the US believe it to be.
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You weren't supposed to say "DERP" even louder.



First of all, you need a poll of people actually living in the UK, preferably people who have lived there for at least 20 years, talking about whether they want to stay or go. And then you need to measure how many of those leave in the next 5 or 10 years.

You went with people who already ****ing left and you don't see the problem in using that to say the UK sucks?

You really don't understand the problem?



And you see, even if you did - but you cannot and will not - but even if you did figure out the problem and cure it, you'd have to deal with the second problem. The second problem surrounds the use of "liberal" in your swill. The second problem was pointed out in the second post. Imagine that!

Winston said:
Conservatives have controlled UK parliament for quite some time now, with their latest rendition being Boris Johnson.
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See, MR? You're trying to use a poll of people who already left the UK to say that living in the UK sucks because it's liberal, and even then its parliament has been dominated by non-liberals for quite some time and most recently is governed by a ****wit of a conservative who made things far worse with COVID than they needed to be, just like Trump.

Get it yet? Probably not. You've got an agenda to sell. But everyone else sees your fail.
 
Lutherf said:
The Tories have been in power for a while but the issue is more that of the social welfare state than the party that's in charge. All the Tories do is keep the social democracy status quo whereas Labor would expand it to the point that...well, the current party leadership pretty much just put the kibosh on an internal investigation regarding antisemitism in the party. I mean, what's the point of being a social democrat if you can't hate on the Jews?
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Let's see....who is more trustworhy....

- A guy whose political beliefs are farther to the left of mine but whom I've never seen lie; or

- A guy who relentlessly attacks "the left" and defends and utterly corrupt bastard of a president in order to "own the libturds" using every last lie he can think of or steal from the Hannities of the world.

:thinking

I wonder...





PS: Most of us Jewish people see the bulk of the right's pretense for what it is: a pretense. You lot only ever seem to express care about Jews or Israel in context of attacking "the left" or Democrats. And while we'd generally like to see a little more understanding for how the Israel-Palestinian situation developed, we're Americans first. Yet an awful lot of you seem to assume that we'll betray our beliefs about what is the least worst domestic policy - is that not always the choice - if a Republican waxes loud about love of Jews and Israel.

Another transparent ployl.
 
Moderate Right said:
Oh please. Our left look to Britain as being a liberal haven.
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No, we are just as likely to look at Canada, Scandinavia, or continental Europe for examples of good policies we might want to adopt and adapt. Besides, our British cousins have been leaving the Sceptered Isle for centuries since Elizabeth I said, “Somebody out there must be able to cook. Go and find them!” Thus, the empire was basically a search for decent food. Now one can eat quite well in Britain thanks to those who left.
 
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Lutherf said:
The Tories have been in power for a while but the issue is more that of the social welfare state than the party that's in charge. All the Tories do is keep the social democracy status quo whereas Labor would expand it to the point that...well, the current party leadership pretty much just put the kibosh on an internal investigation regarding antisemitism in the party. I mean, what's the point of being a social democrat if you can't hate on the Jews?
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The entire premise of the thread is ridiculous since the Tories have held a sustained grip on power. If the people were fleeing the country for political grievances, Occam's Razor states they were fleeing conservatives.
 
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