Gone, Gone, Gone

TURNOVER ON THE PRESIDENT’S “A TEAM”
President Trump’s “A Team” turnover is 86% as of May 15, 2020

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Luckyone said:

The biggest turn over ever seen in a presidential administration has happened under Trump.



What is even worse is that this list only counts a turnover once per position. In many cases, those positions have been turned over more than once, as at least half have been turned over twice and about 20% have been turned over 3 and 4 times.

What does this suggest?

1) Trump does not know how to hire good people
2) Trump is a bad boss that causes people to leave
3) Trump does not listen to the people he hires


This has gone on consistently during the 3 and a half years in office and that means the problem lies with Trump and not with the people he hires. This is especially true when 20% of the positions he has hired people for have been turned over at least twice.

It is impossible to have a good administration when such a turnover continues. One of the big keys to success in any company or administration is dependable continuity that breeds improvement rather than brusque change.

Here is a sample of just how bad it is:

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Luckyone said:

The biggest turn over ever seen in a presidential administration has happened under Trump.



What is even worse is that this list only counts a turnover once per position. In many cases, those positions have been turned over more than once, as at least half have been turned over twice and about 20% have been turned over 3 and 4 times.

What does this suggest?

1) Trump does not know how to hire good people
2) Trump is a bad boss that causes people to leave
3) Trump does not listen to the people he hires


This has gone on consistently during the 3 and a half years in office and that means the problem lies with Trump and not with the people he hires. This is especially true when 20% of the positions he has hired people for have been turned over at least three times.

It is impossible to have a good administration when such a turnover continues. One of the big keys to success in any company or administration is dependable continuity that breeds improvement rather than brusque change.

Here is a sample of just how bad it is:

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Xilnik said:

This does not surprise anyone who watched his show. I know not all of the members you mention have been fired, but he was famous for telling people, "You're fired!!!" on his show.

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Luckyone said:

The biggest turn over ever seen in a presidential administration has happened under Trump.



What is even worse is that this list only counts a turnover once per position. In many cases, those positions have been turned over more than once, as at least half have been turned over twice and about 20% have been turned over 3 and 4 times.

What does this suggest?

1) Trump does not know how to hire good people
2) Trump is a bad boss that causes people to leave
3) Trump does not listen to the people he hires


This has gone on consistently during the 3 and a half years in office and that means the problem lies with Trump and not with the people he hires. This is especially true when 20% of the positions he has hired people for have been turned over at least three times.

It is impossible to have a good administration when such a turnover continues. One of the big keys to success in any company or administration is dependable continuity that breeds improvement rather than constant brusque changes that requires everything to have to restart from scratch.

Here is a sample of just how bad it is:

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Mycroft said:

Don't forget about these people...

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Luckyone said:

Why don't you address the information in the OP, rather than trying to compare. Do two wrongs make 1 right?

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Mycroft said:

Okay.

I don't know what "two wrongs" you are referring to, but there certainly are a couple things wrong with the picture you presented.

1. What makes you think Wilbur Ross is "soon to be gone"?

2. After all that has happened concerning Michael Flynn, you would put HIS picture in with that bunch? LOL!! Hell, he'll probably soon become an important part of the Trump administration!

And regarding your "What does this suggest"...I disagree. I think, in most of those cases those people have simply outlived their usefulness. Like any competent business executive, Trump cuts useless dead weight. Furthermore, there is no indication that any of those people leaving has caused anything to have to "start from scratch".

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WHITE HOUSE
Trump weighs ousting Commerce chief Wilbur Ross after census defeat
Some White House officials expect the Cabinet secretary, who has known the president for years, to depart as soon as this summer.

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Luckyone said:

1) You don't address a wrong by pointing to another wrong as each stands on its own. Comparing what one administration has or has not done to explain what another administration is doing is senseless as it does not solve either problem

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3) you find that it is normal and natural for a president to say he will hire the best and then replace that position 2, 3, and 4 times? Are there that many best people around? does an 86% Turn over rate sound like a good thing. Does that not normally mean the one that hires (Trump) not know what he is doing? or makes error judgments? or is impossible to work for?

What company president is ever successful in building a business if he replaces 86% of his "top" people consistently. If you believe that, show me examples of some businesses or governments that have done that successfully in the past.

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Luckyone said:

Why don't you address the information in the OP, rather than trying to compare. Do two wrongs make 1 right?

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Mycroft said:

1. I wasn't addressing a wrong with that picture I posted. I was addressing a fact. Every one of those people actually resigned or were fired...except for the one who is still there, but under investigation.

2. Oh..."according to multiple people familiar with the conversations"..."according to advisers and officials". Right. Okay. Moving on...

3. Here are a some discussions about retaining employees.

Retention vs. Replacement for Employees | Work - Chron.com

Are employees really completely replaceable in companies? - Quora

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Luckyone said:

C'mon Mycroft, you are going to try to explain away an 86% turn over rate of top officials of a company/administration by quoting general factors about retaining employees?

Why don't you once address the difference in administrations and companies and then compare them with success or failure rates. Show me one company that replaced 86% of its top brass (presidents, CFO's, directors and managers) that was successful in the end. Every single time that a company has to replace its top brass, it has meant that there are problems at the top and if you don't replace the top, the problems have continued. The top is the problem, not the employees. In addition, these top positions have not been replaced once but twice, three times and four times. You mean to tell me that all of the replacements were bad. What does that say about the person choosing the replacements? Do you think he is choosing well if the base problem is not him? Why is he choosing so many wrong people?

You really are brainwashed by your idol.

You remind me of this pic

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Mycroft said:

Don't forget about these people...

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Luckyone said:

C'mon Mycroft, you are going to try to explain away an 86% turn over rate of top officials of a company/administration by quoting general factors about retaining employees?

Why don't you once address the difference in administrations and companies and then compare them with success or failure rates. Show me one company that replaced 86% of its top brass (presidents, CFO's, directors and managers) that was successful in the end. Every single time that a company has to replace its top brass, it has meant that there are problems at the top and if you don't replace the top, the problems have continued. The top is the problem, not the employees. In addition, these top positions have not been replaced once but twice, three times and four times. You mean to tell me that all of the replacements were bad. What does that say about the person choosing the replacements? Do you think he is choosing well if the base problem is not him? Why is he choosing so many wrong people?

You really are brainwashed by your idol.

You remind me of this pic

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Luckyone said:

The biggest turn over ever seen in a presidential administration has happened under Trump.



What is even worse is that this list only counts a turnover once per position. In many cases, those positions have been turned over more than once, as at least half have been turned over twice and about 20% have been turned over 3 and 4 times.

What does this suggest?

1) Trump does not know how to hire good people
2) Trump is a bad boss that causes people to leave
3) Trump does not listen to the people he hires


This has gone on consistently during the 3 and a half years in office and that means the problem lies with Trump and not with the people he hires. This is especially true when 20% of the positions he has hired people for have been turned over at least three times.

It is impossible to have a good administration when such a turnover continues. One of the big keys to success in any company or administration is dependable continuity that breeds improvement rather than constant brusque changes that requires everything to have to restart from scratch.

Here is a sample of just how bad it is:

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Moderate Right said:

Really scraping the bottom of the anti-Trump bucket, aren't you? Have you given up on everything else?

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Luckyone said:

You mean to tell me that talking about 86% of the "A" Team for Trump having been fired or quitting and the positions replaced 2, 3, or even 4 times is "bottom of the barrel?"

Trumps tweets are of higher importance? Perhaps talking about Golfing during a pandemic is more important? How about commenting on his constant attacks against the media?

Bottom of the barrel, eh?

I am not surprised in you Mod! You get everything wrong all the time anyhow.

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Moderate Right said:

You have clearly given up on Russian collusion, taxes, and everything else. Now you are focused on stupid crap that couldn't even remove him from office.

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Moderate Right said:

You have clearly given up on Russian collusion, taxes, and everything else. Now you are focused on stupid crap that couldn't even remove him from office.

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The economy has fallen into profound disarray. This, more than anything, is the danger for Trump, who has boasted of his unique financial genius, taking credit for a roaring stock market and record-low unemployment. Suddenly, instead of the 2% to 3% growth in the gross domestic product that the president was expecting, the International Monetary Fund is predicting that the U.S. economy is going to shrink by nearly 6% in 2020. More than 30 million Americans have now applied for unemployment benefits. Suddenly Trump has lost his trump card and the baked-in advantage of incumbency may turn into an albatross. Just ask Herbert Hoover how forgiving American voters were when they went to the polls in 1932 weighed down by 24% unemployment. He carried six of the 48 states. The lesson here is that if the economy doesn’t recover and Joe Biden can convince American voters he’s got a bona fide New Deal up his sleeve, Trump is screwed.

• The Republican Party base is shrinking. Beyond the situational drama of the COVID-19 virus and its attending economic fallout, the GOP has systemic problems in its demographic base. Three of its core constituencies — evangelical Christians, white men and the elderly — are shrinking as a share of the population. Meanwhile, the percentage of Americans who are nonreligious is growing — and 70% of them lean Democratic. Republicans have also had a hard time keeping pace with America’s growing racial diversity. In addition, college-educated voters — once the bread and butter of the GOP — are shifting to the Democratic Party, and there are more college-educated Americans than ever.

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Luckyone said:

Removing him from office just 6 months to the election is no longer possible or important.

Showing his deep faults and incompetency in being the leader of the nation is now of the greatest importance.

That is why talking about his handling of the virus crisis, his lies and inability to hire and keep good people, his constant keying on himself (instead of the nation) and showing how he has is totally incompetent are the things that are now important.

Thanks for your help. If it wasn't for you interest and replies to defend him when truth comes out, it would be more difficult. Nonetheless, Trump cult members cannot help themselves in rushing to Trump's aid to excuse his actions. If he was doing the right thing, no excuse or help would be needed. The actions themselves would give him the support he needs. The overwhelming rush to OP's like this means that we are telling the truth and that means the only support left is attacking the posters and deflecting.

Your own involvement in these OP's, shows how much our posts are having an effect. I do not know if you have noticed, but I don't normally reply when the action expressed supports itself. For example, you don't see me feeling the need to rush to help Biden. Could it be because Biden's caring actions for others speak for themselves?.

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Mr Person said:

Why do you always lie?

Nobody is expecting the GOP to remove Trump from office. And you know nobody expected him to be removed when impeached. Trumpists decided to sell their soul rather than stand up for what is right. The election was only the point ever.

The impeachment? That was just another entry in a long line of instances where Trumpists embraced corruption to avoid admitting their horrible behavior in supporting Trump in the first place.




Ok now you can lie about what I just posted. Go on. I said true things about Trump and Trumpists. You're required. It's right there in the contract.

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Moderate Right said:

If no one was expecting the GOP to remove Trump from office then why was he impeached? Why all the witch hunt investigations that go nowhere?

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Moderate Right said:

Translation: Me hatem Trump. Thanks for admitting to your uber partisanship. By the way, we already knew you hated Trump and we already knew there was nothing you could get Trump for, even after more than three years of trying.

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