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Sorry. Biden is right: If you have a problem figuring out who to support for POTUS, you aren't black

That would be true if the shortcomings of the candidates were the same. But if one is a million times worse then that is not hypocrisy. That’s just choosing the objectively better candidate. Call it “picking the lesser of two evils,” I don’t care. Regardless of how you choose to frame it, the less bad candidate is the better candidate.

Republicans found the worst human being in the country and put him in office as a “screw you” to liberals. Biden will always be compared favorably to that person.

Any person that would vote for Trump or Biden obviously doesn't give a crap about character.

Any person who votes for the so called "lesser evil" is a total cop out.
 
Any person that would vote for Trump or Biden obviously doesn't give a crap about character.

Any person who votes for the so called "lesser evil" is a total cop out.

Whatever. On planet earth, Biden or Trump will be sworn into office on January 20, 2021. I will vote for the one who is not the worst human being in the country.
 
https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1263809957515988997

I see the right-wing poutrage machine is already up in arms over this, so allow me to translate for the illiterate.

You must have white privilege in order to see no difference between Trump and Biden. Every real black person knows what's at stake and realize white supremacy itself is not only on the ballot but the central issue in the 2020 election. To ignore the central role of race in our current political battles is to be blissfully unaware of what's at stake, here.

The very concept of a "real" black person is racist.

The essence of man is in his heart, his mind and his soul, not in the color of his skin. If one thinks in terms of a "real" black person (or "real" Italian or "real" Jew, etc.) it belies an underlying intent to, at least intellectually, pit one person against another. It is a thought of division rather than of unity.

Then again, those who seek power for their own purposes often first think to divide those they wish to rule because they know that unified people can never be ruled but divided people seek out rulers.
 
Like I said, they back the democrat, and the democrat party knows it. That's why they don't have to waste time and money campaigning in black communities. Sure, they'll pop in every 4 years, get a photo-op, and that's the last we see of them. It's been like that for 50 years here in Baltimore. The city gets worse every year, crime ridden, rat and roach infested, with open air drug markets, but come November, they'll pull the lever for whoever has the "D" in front of their name. The last 3 mayors were removed or had to resign do to corruption! And the next election, they will vote democrat yet again.

You've neatly encapsulated the mindset among conservatives that ensures that black people won't be changing their vote in the near future. Trump crew are even producing "You're not black!" tees already which could come back to bite them for similar reasons.
 
LOL so Creepy Joe is now saying any black person who doesnt vote for him isnt really black? That's a racist statement right there, and you agree with him.

No he isn't saying that, the guy just explained it all to you! Did you even read the post?
 
No he isn't saying that, the guy just explained it all to you! Did you even read the post?

Ah, so you defend Biden's racism too. That explains a lot.
 
Ah, so you defend Biden's racism too. That explains a lot.

Biden was not being racist. He wasn't so much saying "you're not really black if you vote for Trump" so much as "only white people would support Trump".
 
Biden is the subject here.

And my response is: You only care about gaffs if a Democrat makes one. Biden is 1,000,000 times more competent, empathetic, and responsible that mango.
 
https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1263809957515988997

I see the right-wing poutrage machine is already up in arms over this, so allow me to translate for the illiterate.

You must have white privilege in order to see no difference between Trump and Biden. Every real black person knows what's at stake and realize white supremacy itself is not only on the ballot but the central issue in the 2020 election. To ignore the central role of race in our current political battles is to be blissfully unaware of what's at stake, here.

Stop trying to speak for black people, your white privilege is showing.
 
Tough titties. An actual White Supremacist is Biden’s opponent. Biden’s behavior and comments will always be stacked against Trump’s, and there’s literally nothing you can do about it.

"Tough titties" :lol:
 
https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1263809957515988997

I see the right-wing poutrage machine is already up in arms over this, so allow me to translate for the illiterate.

You must have white privilege in order to see no difference between Trump and Biden. Every real black person knows what's at stake and realize white supremacy itself is not only on the ballot but the central issue in the 2020 election. To ignore the central role of race in our current political battles is to be blissfully unaware of what's at stake, here.

I dunno. As true as that all may be, Biden has already got the big part of the black folks and him preaching to the choir could offend some white voters currently on the fence. I see nothing he has to gain by playing this card. Only losses. But wtf do I know?
 
I dunno. As true as that all may be, Biden has already got the big part of the black folks and him preaching to the choir could offend some white voters currently on the fence. I see nothing he has to gain by playing this card. Only losses. But wtf do I know?
How many people are sitting on the fence?

If you look at Trump's numbers. There're very few undecideds
How Popular Is Donald Trump? | FiveThirtyEight

Trump is polarizing and energizing.
 
How does one qualify to be a "real black person"?
This is actually an interesting question on multiple levels.

In a societal sense, there's not actually any cut-off point where someone starts to be black or where they stop being black.
In a societal sense, it's a lot about how much melanin you have in your skin.
But there're folks who're considered white who have more melanin than some folks who're considered black.

The internet says that some white folks and folks of other races have been made honorary black folks — e.g. Clinton being the 'first black president'

There used to be a 'one drop rule'.
But I think that's been largely abandoned these days as unwieldy and stupid.


As far as how you are asking the question,
as in what constitutes 'American blackness' there's been a lot of discussion in recent decades about what that means and who gets to define it.
I have the impression that some younger black folks hold the opinion that 'blackness' is old-fashioned.
They don't want to respond to the pressures they feel to conform with societal norms of 'blackness' which grew out of the circumstances of the past.
They don't think it's reasonable to be called an Oreo just because they like some nerdy thing that some white folks also like (or w/e similar reason).
But the conversation about 'American blackness' is an ongoing thing with no established arbiters.

At least a notable portion of 'what it means to be black' comes from the feedback from environment where you live.
If you're treated as 'black', that's a notable portion of being 'black'.


'Blackness' seem to be kinda like a beard
you can tell when someone has a beard and when someone doesn't have a beard,
but it's hard to say precisely where the line between the two states is.
 
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History, Trump received 8% of the black vote in 2016, Romney 6%, McCain 4%. But keep in mind both Romney and McCain were up against the first black candidate and president. G.W. Bush 11% in 2004 and 8% in 2000. Dole 12% in 1996 and G.H.W. Bush 11% in 1992 and 10% in 1988. Reagan received 9% in 1984 and 12% in 1980. Ford garnered 15% in 1976 while Nixon hit 13% in 1972 and 15% in 1968. Nixon also received 32% of the black vote in 1960 and IKE garnered 39% in 1956 while receiving 24% in 1952.

There you have the most recent percentages of the black vote. As you can see, most GOP presidential candidates did better than Trump among blacks with the exception of Romney and McCain who were pitted against Obama and Goldwater who received but 6% back in 1964.

The 60's stats don't apply to this era. The 60's was the last big exodus from the GOP by AA voters. So even the election with the largest percentage of votes cast by blacks since 1970 for the GOP candidate, the democrat still got 85% of the vote. In the last 20 years, closer to 90% black voters voted democrat. As I said, Black voters vote democrat.

" Black voters began supporting the Democratic party in greater numbers almost a century ago. But the events of 1964 marked a dramatic shift in voting patterns that's still with us today."
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...in-the-1960s&usg=AOvVaw08HNoCnkAzXDFy0koLOrQd
 
You've neatly encapsulated the mindset among conservatives that ensures that black people won't be changing their vote in the near future. Trump crew are even producing "You're not black!" tees already which could come back to bite them for similar reasons.

Is that what ya think? Even the black republicans? lol Because we understand 85-90% of black voters will vote democrat? Really? There are 300+ murders every year here. The last 3 mayors have been removed or resigned for corruption. There were 1,000,000 residents here at one time. It's down to about 600,000 right now. We've been under democrat rule for 50 years. It gets worse every year, the infrastructure is in shambles, there's a huge rat problem, crime and drugs are through the roof, and yet, the black residents vote democrat. It's like that in almost every big city run by democrats. And you believe that conservatives acknowledging this, ensures it will stay that way? If all that isn't enough reason to vote republican, what would you suggest?
Think about this for a minute. If you were a democrat candidate, with a limited budget for campaigning, where would you spend the money and time? The place that voted democrat every election, no matter how bad it for for 50 years? Or a battle ground state that's up for grabs? That's the situation here. I'm 64, and as far back as I can remember, we've had a democrat mayor. It will be the same in November, and every election after that.
 
The 60's stats don't apply to this era. The 60's was the last big exodus from the GOP by AA voters. So even the election with the largest percentage of votes cast by blacks since 1970 for the GOP candidate, the democrat still got 85% of the vote. In the last 20 years, closer to 90% black voters voted democrat. As I said, Black voters vote democrat.

" Black voters began supporting the Democratic party in greater numbers almost a century ago. But the events of 1964 marked a dramatic shift in voting patterns that's still with us today."
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...in-the-1960s&usg=AOvVaw08HNoCnkAzXDFy0koLOrQd

I agree. 1964 was the year blacks totally abandoned the GOP.
 
Biden was not being racist. He wasn't so much saying "you're not really black if you vote for Trump" so much as "only white people would support Trump".

That makes zero sense. Biden was saying he decides who is black or not, like a slaveowner, so you side with him.
 
I agree. 1964 was the year blacks totally abandoned the GOP.

And since then, they have fallen for the lies of the Democrats, who pretend to care about them only when it's an election cycle. But when that's over, Democrats return to ignoring them. Ignoring them when they fall into poverty....when they kill each other in urban areas....totally and completely ignore them.
 
That makes zero sense. Biden was saying he decides who is black or not, like a slaveowner, so you side with him.

That's not the literal meaning of what he meant. He was joking. Or trolling. Whichever is more socially acceptable in context.

That's how this works, right? At least, that's how it works with Trump. Doesn't matter what his actual words were. What matters is our ability to twist what he says into whatever we want it to mean.
 
And since then, they have fallen for the lies of the Democrats, who pretend to care about them only when it's an election cycle. But when that's over, Democrats return to ignoring them. Ignoring them when they fall into poverty....when they kill each other in urban areas....totally and completely ignore them.

Have you considered the possibility that black people are actually capable of assessing candidates just as well as you are, and they realize that Democrats are the better of the two options for them? Or do you think black people are just too stupid to figure this out, unlike superior white people like yourself?
 
That makes zero sense. Biden was saying he decides who is black or not, like a slaveowner, so you side with him.

You: Biden is racist.
Me: No he isn't, you see, because... [explains]
You: So you're racist too.
Me: No, because as I just said... [explains]
You: So Biden is racist and you're siding with him...
Me: Not at all... [explains]
You: You white supremacists make me sick.
Me: But... [explains]
You: Why are you so racist? What have black people ever done to you?
Me: [explains]
You: I suppose you support slavery...

This is generally the pattern on this thread.
 
https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1263809957515988997

I see the right-wing poutrage machine is already up in arms over this, so allow me to translate for the illiterate.

You must have white privilege in order to see no difference between Trump and Biden. Every real black person knows what's at stake and realize white supremacy itself is not only on the ballot but the central issue in the 2020 election. To ignore the central role of race in our current political battles is to be blissfully unaware of what's at stake, here.

You must be black.
 
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