It's Time For American Democracy Loving Citizens, to AWAKEN!!!

RealityNow said:

America has been a Globalist since the days of its Independence, and it was a Globalist Nation before the days it fought for its Independence. You are from a time past and you allow FOX Right Wing Media as your classroom.... Therefore, keep uttering the "Trigger Words" they train you to utter.... because you have absolutely no idea what or how to understand the terms or the elements of their relation to systems and societies.

Go to your vehicle... and take off every part that WAS NOT MADE IN AMERICA... and see if you have anything to drive left, if you can get in the pile of parts that remain... Then come back and speak about how society is not part of a Globalist System.

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You must be overjoyed that the Chinese owned the market on PPE supplies and actually tried to cash in on it then, huh? Oh, and remember that thing called Brexit? Think I'm the only person that rejects globalism? You leftists are supposed to be on the side of the people. What the hell happened to you guys?

Grandpappy said:

You must be overjoyed that the Chinese owned the market on PPE supplies and actually tried to cash in on it then, huh? Oh, and remember that thing called Brexit? Think I'm the only person that rejects globalism? You leftists are supposed to be on the side of the people. What the hell happened to you guys?

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You should learn more about the PPE... you'd know that 3M (American claimed company, Produces their PPE products IN CHINA) AND they are the one who created the row over Chinese Companies providing us the PPE... because 3M wanted the dominance of the business, even when they could not meet the demand for it. Stop Listening to Right Wing Media and you'd know this.


As to Brexit, it about the European Union... and that is related to the inequities of participating nations, which caused some nations to have to bail out repeatedly weak performing nations within the European Union, the nature of the agreement caused impacts to other nations currency, which was challenging to the Euro Dollar's valuation fluctuation.

You say what happen to Non Republican... what happened is we "invested in being education, informed and doing research to verify and explore the information for clarity... You guys however, rely on "Belligerence, Fear, Denial and Attack something and blame everyone except yourself. (NO All Republican are unaware, but most who claim the label of Conservative, are more of the constituency that get their information from Right Wing Media Pundits... who do nothing but daily, drill them with anything that arouses anguish, because its easy to anguish an untrained mind that has been groomed to be anti government, attack something, deny something and blame something on anything and everything except themselves, and such types as such, are hoodwinked, and easily contained in a gerrymandered grouping, where they rely on drama and spin, deflections and attack, followed by a list of denials that lead them to assault any policy, measure, bill and governing proposal, that looks out for American People above Corporations and Look to respect Diversity, rather than push and scratch to prolong a system that wants to try to recapture the era of white nationalist dominance such as the earlier time in American which I identified in a previous comment.

I don't dislike you guys as fellow human being, nor as fellow Americans...]

I dislike the way you are so easily misled and how so many of you can't let go of the old system of white dominance and how you guys worship the wealthy as if they are your serf masters, who control you through gerrymandering politics. if anything I feel somewhat sad for you, because you guys supported Union Busting, and whined and cried about paying $30 something a month in dues, and resulted to destroy your own access to pension, medical and other union negotiated benefits for employees, and have suffered wage stagnation for the past 20-30 yrs. because of such an insidious choice. That choice was made because the sadness of white nationalism did not want to see "women and minorities earn with the middle class white male", and in the process, they used poor white and working poor whites as acceptable collateral damage.... in the process to get them to back busting unions. They have you guys buying into the phrase of "We can't compete'... and repeating it... when all the while being led to buy cheap goods as a result, that are being sold as if it was built based on quality American living wages... when fact is it has a 300-3000% mark up.... and the economy and nations infrastructure decline by the same variables of 300% -3000% as the National Debt is in double digit $TRILLION.

There is so much 'you don't know" because your source of information is from the same apparatus that program you guys to be and accept defeating self and worshiping the wealthy, while being stripped clean on a repeated cycle. Every Gain people make during a Democratic Administration, Republican come in and set policy that strips it away...

Truth is simple, "Generations Change" and the Oldest Members of the Baby Boomer Era" are fading out day by day, and many of the young from the working class, no longer what to hear their bitching and moaning and attacking and denying... because they are becoming more educated and informed and they are tired of trying to drown themselves in Opioids and other stuff to repress themselves into trying to follow the edicts and concepts of the old guard, and they see the more they try to follow it the worst their lives and access to and skills for meeting a New Era becomes.

Uncle Bob and Mr. Jake no longer have "repair shops to hire them", they've seen their farming communities devastated by "Republican backed Big Corporate Industrial Farming Entities, and their Mill Towns dried up with the expansion of Wealthy White Men who Promoted Outsourcing. and then told them that "American's Can't Compete" to get these same people to accept cheap disposable products that must be replaced on a high frequency and its not repairable, because they can't access the parts to repair it, and there is not support for funding to help them create shops that could repair it.

Stop falling or "Trigger Words" because they are used to make you guys spew things you know nothing about and as a results it makes you gullible to swallow anything that comes out within the Republicanism's Spin Cycle.

I along with Republicans, Democrats, Independents, Libertarians, don't like "anyone ripping off anything".... None of us like "people who don't make all effort they can to be a "contributor"... and we know that there are people as such in every race and ethnicity in this nation!!! Its OUR JOB to ensure EQUALITY OF PERSON AS INDIVIDUAL, IS RESPECT, AND EACH INDIVIDUAL HAS ACCESS TO EDUCATION, SKILL TRAINING AND OPPORTUNITY AND ECONOMIC COMPENSATIONS THAT MEETS THE PROMOTED STANDARD OF LIVING.

Nor do any of us like "Disregard for Morality"... but.. what has taken place is "We" have allowed Plutocratic Agenda... invade us and promote the exact same thing that existed under the Agenda of the Confederacy... which as disregard for the values of The Preamble, reverting to trying to still ACT as if The Constitution is Only For White Men, and worshiping and accepting anything from anyone in suit who makes a claim of having money, celebrity publicity, public promoted titles, that are used for greed gathering.

Anyone and MANY... hooked by the Colluded Game of "Conservatism" deep down know it was promoted out of Segregationist Ideology, that goes all the way back to being born of Confederacy Ideology and Confederacy Agenda.
Which is about many things of disenfranchising, abusing and misusing peopl along with creating a serfdom like following to the extent and extremity of "denying anything that contributes tax monies to anything that helps people'... which is a DIRECT violation and disregard for the very Principle laid out in THE PREAMBLE... which serves to support what the Declaration of Independence for what a Nation must value, and A Constitution was Established to ensure a process to meet those values by and through a Representative Form of Governance.

RealityNow said:

Ronald Reagan, de-funding Community Colleges and State Universities and his unsanction War in Central America that led to the flooding of American poor communities with cocaine... that has led to a cycle of damaging drugs across the nation.

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So are you one of the conspiracy nutters that blames the Reagan Admin. for cocaine being smuggled into the U.S.?

You do know that a mediocre Tom Cruise movie is not actual "history" don't you?

charliebrown said:

THink we can get everyone to read this?

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Unfortunately, not... because many of the people don't come here to read, investigate and learn... they come to "play On Up" slap stick one liner spin games... Its why thread and post like this these get low readership.

If people were truly concerned, they'd share links to engage other in dialog, as well as promote others to come and speak and actually debate subject matter with substantive commentary.

I know people who are as much withdrawn from engaging detail, dialog and research and commentary to back up their thoughts... because we have a society that is groomed over the past decades to have "short attention spans".... and play "rote memory games in the education system" that no longer allow students, to ask the questions of a free thinking society...such as "WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE, HOW and How Come"... they are taught for "test taking" to regurgitate scripted response, as is done by the former system Asian Nations used of "Rote Memorization's", which had nothing to do with Critical Thinking.

If one put two variables within a paragraph, people minds get stressed and they get agitated looking for a simple one liner bottom line, because they are not groomed nor trained to think within and through things. They are taught to react with deflection, denial and attack....

The Age of Information is providing the "every man" with information that was not available in the past, except to Academics, and many were groomed to try and condense it to one liners, with a punch line for pun.

Therefore... its the result of what we see in the many varieties of Forums... The good thing is even though they don't do critical thinking, "their want to be heard' is strong... and it would have greater strength if they actually invested in "critical thinking, research, understanding to interpert what they read and know what context to do so, in relation to the Civics of American Democracy, based in the Founding Documents of this Nation... THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, THE PREAMBLE TO THE CONSTITUTION, AND THE CONSTITUTION...

Sadly we can and its difficult to fully fault the many from previous Era's because they were under educations and a system that gave them access did not require them to have or engage in critical thinking.

Most of American Industry, even in the hey day... was designed for basic 7th-8th grade comprehension to be trained for assembly line robotic functions... many were not able to transistion and adapt to technology when the computer expanded its usage in the late 1970's throughout the 1980's and 1990's. Once all the "data entry was caught up to a certain level, the training for data entry basically 'dried up' and those that did get in and learn it and learn the system, became to learn various elements of programming.
This left 10's of Million... ill prepared to deal with the evolution what brought us to this day and time.

I have worked with people for years, who simply did not make the skill transposition, and some still ride degree's from the late 1960's and 1970's that trained them to think an analog terms, and many today still don't grasp the nature and expansive potential of database driven date to help them make informed decisions. I work among some who did keep up, but some of them are buried underneath "degree riders who used the gift of gab and spin" wrapped in being "yes men"... work hard to keep the skill trained down.

I circumvented that stupidity long ago, I navigated my ideas and processes for business and organization and operation performance enhancement and developments to the head of the decision making structure of organization. Many of the people in the chain, as a great many people have found out, they don't have the capability of either mindset or conviction to move anything up the chain. They will defeat anything they can which may call on them to step up and present. I know this for a fact!!!!

I'll challenge any of you who visit these forums to develop and idea and take it to your boss, they will spend more time trying to "defeat it", rather than learn it because to do so, they know they don't have what it takes to present it at the highest level... Unless its so undeniable that they figure they can get a plug behind doing so. Its not even about the betterment of the operation, its about their ego wanting personal recognition.

I don't function like that ... When I take a job, I'm hire to do the job, but to improve the processes and advance the operational performance and strengthen the integrity of the organization and its business by and through research and development and modernization of how we achieve our objectives.

Dayton3 said:

So are you one of the conspiracy nutters that blames the Reagan Admin. for cocaine being smuggled into the U.S.?

You do know that a mediocre Tom Cruise movie is not actual "history" don't you?

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All I can say to you is " May There Be Mercy" for you....

Although if you are willing to learn:
Maybe you better check out the Oliver North Operation during the Iran Contra program of Ronald Reagan. In case you were not around or whatever, I watched the entirety of the hearing in "live view" and I read and researched information during the whole of the process. you could benefit from research.

Right Wing Media can't educate you!

Maybe you could get a glimpse of insight by watching a few movies, or listen to people that you refuse to hear what they say, such as Representative Maxine Waters, a congresswoman for South Central Los Angeles — the heart of the drug wars — requested both federal and congressional inquiries into the role that the U.S. government played in bringing cocaine into her community.

Maybe you should learn as well about M-1 Money Supply, and how it moved from Miami and the Florida Coast to the West Cost in direct relations to the importation of Cocaine's spread in America. You might even learn how it fueled the process of keeping tabs on people who deposit and/or withdraw $10,000 from a financial institution, and track wire transfer of large sums as well as banks that engaged in collusive practices to wash drug money.

It's documented if you care to do the research to learn.

RealityNow said:

All I can say to you is " May There Be Mercy" for you....

Although if you are willing to learn:
Maybe you better check out the Oliver North Operation during the Iran Contra program of Ronald Reagan. In case you were not around or whatever, I watched the entirety of the hearing in "live view" and I read and researched information during the whole of the process. you could benefit from research.

Right Wing Media can't educate you!

Maybe you could get a glimpse of insight by watching a few movies, or listen to people that you refuse to hear what they say, such as Representative Maxine Waters, a congresswoman for South Central Los Angeles — the heart of the drug wars — requested both federal and congressional inquiries into the role that the U.S. government played in bringing cocaine into her community.

Maybe you should learn as well about M-1 Money Supply, and how it moved from Miami and the Florida Coast to the West Cost in direct relations to the importation of Cocaine's spread in America. You might even learn how it fueled the process of keeping tabs on people who deposit and/or withdraw $10,000 from a financial institution, and track wire transfer of large sums as well as banks that engaged in collusive practices to wash drug money.

It's documented if you care to do the research to learn.

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1)I watched the hearings live.

2) Maxine Waters is a complete crazy ass nut who shouldn't even be in office. Must less used as a source for anything serious.

3) Once again you suggest I learn history by WATCHING MOVIES!!! Give me a break.

Dayton3 said:

1)I watched the hearings live.

2) Maxine Waters is a complete crazy ass nut who shouldn't even be in office. Must less used as a source for anything serious.

3) Once again you suggest I learn history by WATCHING MOVIES!!! Give me a break.

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Anyone who stand up for people issue and certainly any black person that stand up for people issue and address also black community issue, in your view is a nut... so.. what you think in such terms... don't amount to an ant hill to me. I have more respect for an ant hill.. that what you say... at least the 'ant's worked to make their hill'.

I don't care if you don't know how to discern for fact finding between what you see in documentary and how to research for clarity and the full spectrum of facts.

The Contras, Cocaine, and Covert Operations
National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 2

DARK ALLIANCE: THE STORY BEHIND THE CRACK EXPLOSION


Iran-Contra Affair - HISTORY

History of the Iran-Contra Scandal



I can't refute whether or not you watched the hearing but I can certainly say, IF you had understood what you were watching, you would not have made the comment you made.

Over the last ten to twenty years, I could never understand why it is that Democrats think Republicans are out to destroy this nation and Republicans think democrats want to destroy it. Both parties think they are the only one's that can save it.

Undermining American Democracy, you can bet your bottom dollar that either party if they could would certainly do that if it meant they would never lose another election and be able to retain the power of government forever. In fact I think that is the goal for both major parties, to rig the election system to where they will never lose and to silence any opposition to them.

Both just want one party rule.

Perotista said:

Over the last ten to twenty years, I could never understand why it is that Democrats think Republicans are out to destroy this nation and Republicans think democrats want to destroy it. Both parties think they are the only one's that can save it.

Undermining American Democracy, you can bet your bottom dollar that either party if they could would certainly do that if it meant they would never lose another election and be able to retain the power of government forever. In fact I think that is the goal for both major parties, to rig the election system to where they will never lose and to silence any opposition to them.

Both just want one party rule.

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BOTH SHOULD want to uphold the values of the Declaration of Independence, which gave us the process to have a REPUBLIC FORM OF REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNANCES, and it gave us the lead in to develop The Preamble to the Constitution and the Constitution.

People forget, back in early days, "white men" proclaimed for themselves that the Constitution was "only" for them, by claiming they were the only human beings who could be counted as "person"... Not women and not black people... Women were basically possessions that produced off-springs and held silence in National Affairs, and Blacks were not considered "persons', but Property, and only counted for the purpose of trying to increase the voting status of the wealthy who owned the land, and/or slave owners.

RealityNow said:

BOTH SHOULD want to uphold the values of the Declaration of Independence, which gave us the process to have a REPUBLIC FORM OF REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNANCES, and it gave us the lead in to develop The Preamble to the Constitution and the Constitution.

People forget, back in early days, "white men" proclaimed for themselves that the Constitution was "only" for them, by claiming they were the only human beings who could be counted as "person"... Not women and not black people... Women were basically possessions that produced off-springs and held silence in National Affairs, and Blacks were not considered "persons', but Property, and only counted for the purpose of trying to increase the voting status of the wealthy who owned the land, and/or slave owners.

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Segregation lasted for 100 yrs after slavery, and the fight against Civil Rights was insidious, of one segment of white society, not wanting blacks and women and other minorities to have the same Civil and Civic and Economy rights they COVETED for themselves. That's UNAMERICA.. and that is precisely the line that Political Party's drew.... where one wanted and still wants to have the old system, and on part is trying to promote "Equality within Diversity FOR ALL"...

People like the members of the Dixiecrat's who fought against Civil Rights, and Republican at that time supported Civil Rights, and then Barry Goldwater in 1964 promoted racist agenda to pursue confusing people by doing so in the Republican Party and the Dixiecrats adopted and devoted themselves to The Race Based Agenda of Republicanism and at that time, once they left the Democratic Party, the Democrats took up the Cause of Civil and Civic and Economic Rights for ALL PEOPLE.

People should know these things, but by 1968, the system 'cut back on promoting Civic Educations, as an agenda... which implied that "ok" now people have Civil Rights and Civic Rights, but if they can have the education of Civics taken away, then they will have a difficult time 'getting full circle Civil and Civic Rights, because they become Civically Illiterate... they knew it would also do the same to "Poor white and working Poor whites, but they did not care, they considered them as "Acceptable Collateral Damages, who could be controlled by racism, and used to guard the Civil and Civic Rights as being something the "Well to do and wealthy enjoyed"... at the expense of women, minorities and poor and working poor whites.

People can't and wont' learn this until they think beyond themselves and the bubble they are captured within, contained by Gerrymandering and the Reagan Era promotions of Right Wing Media, and their pursuit of the unchecked power of claiming a Unitary Executive, as if to create a faux system of "Above The Law"... as if to create the semblance of a King and Kings Court... and that is exactly what we saw with Nixon, Reagan, and Now with Trump.... All... DISRESPECTFUL OF THE ELEMENTS AND PRINCIPLES OF "The Declaration of Independence", core principles that there will be NO KING in nor of America.

For many decades in America... the taxes were keep low for the benefit of the well to do and wealty, BECAUSE, they could re-direct tax money paid by minorities and poor whites to be spent building up communities where well to do and poor whites lived. They got the Parks, The Pools, The Community Centers, The Good Streets, the better drainage system, the better of every public investment... because of how they used tax monies paid by minorities and poor whites ... to do so. Nothing got such upgrade in Minority areas or poor white areas... Blacks were not allowed in well to do and wealthy white areas, and poor whites knew not to go there, because they were unwelcomed.

When it comes time for Tax Money to "Serve All"... the wealthy whine and cry about "taxes being too high", and poor whites whine about taxes being too high, because the poor whites never got anything of high quality standard for their tax money, but they would never focus on the fact, they did not get it, because their tax money was re-directed to support well to do white areas to get what they want while keeping their taxes low. Now... Poor whites were groomed to focus on black people, and fight against anyone calling out the truth about well to do and wealthy whites, because they were deluded to think one day they could live and mingle among them. Yet it was the well to do and wealthy who "coined the phrase" POOR WHITES, to ensure they kept them segregated from themselves. even if the poor white acquired money, they were considered as white trash, if they tried to move into well to do and wealthy communities based on having white skin... they were met with 'stand offish" and every other kind of disposition which conveyed, they don't fit and are not welcome.

This is stuff that general white society was groomed not to learn.... They were groomed to NEVER focus the attention of causation on the wealthy.

People should study the History of Unions... and then study the History of OSHA... they may learn a great deal of how the wealthy not only fought against living levels wage, but fought against humane respect of person in the workplace and disregarded safety, because Poor White and Minorities were considered as disposable and replaceable with another disposable body.

Look around, there are poor and working poor white people and black people, in their 50's with the look of being in their late 60's with a body that is broken down as if its near the mid to late 70's... because they had back breaking work, low pay and not means to have the quality medical care that the well to do and wealthy enjoyed. They could only go to a doctor once things got "extreme and critical"... The wealthy go for regular checks up and immediately when the slightest concern enters their minds.

Look at dental care among the poor whites and poor minorities... Then look at the conditions of the public spaces in their environments... poverty breeds depression and depression is a surety to promote the continuance of poverty. Lack of Civics Education ensure that cycle perpetuates itself...

Political Party Agenda is what people need to understand: Stop chasing conspiracy and face the facts....

() Republican system places Business, Industry and the Wealthy as PRIORITY ONE... BEFORE General Population of People

() Democrat system places General Population of People as PRIORITY ONE BEFORE Business, Industry and the Wealthy ...

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Democrats understand it is PEOPLE who make Business Function and it is People who consume to support the flourishing of Business.. People are ingenious and creative and as we've seen during this Pandemic... is the working poor and the poor, HELPING EACH OTHERS. The wealthy tried to seize and capture money that was designed to go to the SMALL business and specifically to the Mom and Pop and Family Business ... and not to Mega Companies and Public Traded companies... but they came in and tried to "take that money"... and many of them still furlough people and laid off people.... and none of them took pay cuts at the top, none dedicated themselves to servicing their employees. Some today, still can't get PPE in some of the larger companies.

Now... this Pandemic is Making People see what they spent decades trying NOT to see.....

many of the people and some including from this site and other forums who follow Republicanism's Big Business Devotion... would themselves be devastated if they got an expense that hit them suddenly of $1000 or $2000 or $3000 or so dollars. If Food Stamps and Section 8* was taken, and/or Social Security was damaged.. many seniors would be in the streets... and many families with kinds in tow would be in the streets.

All the people in all the lines waiting for food... simply did not have the saving or the earned resources to have stocked up on these items. There are many people who can't live based on a 30 day payment cycles.. a great many live on a 45 day payment cycle, and still may have to ask for a 5-10 day grace period to avoid being eaten alive by late fees.

Now... THAT'S REALITY.... and it exist in ALL 50 STATES AND TERRITORIES OF AMERICA.

It will get worst because now we go into Hurricane Season, and we've already seen National Disaster from Coast To Coast.

Republicanism is not the answer for the average working America. .... The sooner they awaken, the sooner we all can get this ship aligned and function to help sail us into the Future.

Hypothetical said:

there is barely any white nationalism in america, but you know what there is? a lot of oligarchs willing to sell us out to china to make a buck, that;s what.

that is what you better be scurred of.

Trump is the only President in HISTORY to take a tough stance on trade with China. we best keep him around unless we want to be a lackey to the CCP.

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Trump got hoodwinked by China and while he was praising them the Covid 19 virus was infecting all 50 States. China needs us as much as we need them that means they want us to succeed. Worry about the nation that wants us to fail. They are our true enemy.

Russian President Vladimir Putin says US dominance is ending after mistakes '''typical of an empire''' - ABC News

iguanaman said:

Trump got hoodwinked by China ans while he was praising them the Covid 19 virus was infecting all 50 States. China needs us as much as we need them that means they want us to succeed. Worry about the nation that wants us to fail. They are our true enemy.

Russian President Vladimir Putin says US dominance is ending after mistakes '''typical of an empire''' - ABC News

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Some of these people should have at least visited China or Hong Kong... and they'd know that Chinese People are Pro American, until America starts to Attack their character. I learned a lot about Chinese people, through Chinese People, both here in America and during the Time I worked in Hong Kong, which entailed work with many people from Mainland China.

China did not come to America and Take Anything... it was Wealthy America White Male Business Men and White Run American Companies that EXPORTED everything to China because it thought it could use them as a form of slave wage labor and relied and expected China to forever contain them as if a slave colony for Western Powers to use them like slave wage minions. American never counted on them learning and using technology and saving their money and building their infrastructure and remaking their civic environments... The computer helped them use it as a tool to utilize information to build up and stand up. Now, American white people are upset because they can no longer "dictate anything to China'... to the old American way is Vilify anyone it can't dominate.

China continues to BUY OUR DEBT... they want us to succeed as much as they want to succeed... but they don't want us trying to tell them how to live... They can't adopt a full democracy, because they still have a mass of people in a variety of provinces they still have to uplift and educate and they can't do that by American Style Democracy, because if anyone knew the history of China, they'd know the making of what is China was done by bringing a lot of Feudal Groups under one banner. It was more daunting of a task when they had to do great harm to their people, after the got the British Out.
There Mega Cities are as robust as any Democracy and its Capitalism.... But... they also don't want to loose any components or be a puppet dictated to by anyone. China has 5 of the Worlds Fastest Supercomputers. They make nearly all the computing products that we utilize. We need to get off the adversarial agenda of wanting to promote Imperialist Rule and Dominance and learn how to become and be Diplomatic with Respect of Other Nations.

We invaded Iraq... but As Saddam told Americans, that he was making reforms but he could not flip a switch to democracy, but he would continue making reforms, and he also told American that with the Religious Factions long history of conflicts... there was not way to flip the nations to become some model of America. he also told them, when you have such factions fighting, they only respect the symbols of money and power to keep them in check.

We found out the hard way just how right he was in knowing his Nation... because it descended into all out Civil War... after American Invades it. I'm not a lover of Saddam, but one has to at least learn how to listen and stop trying to dictate to other nations.... and Time if bringing America to a point it WILL HAVE TO LISTEN more than Go full on trying to Force Dictate Something to other nations. We did not do enough to try and Help Saddam push the change... we were too busy trying to "corral the oil" and dictate the terms of Oil Sales and who could control it.

America has to stop expecting other nations to roll over and say "OK Mr. America" I submit.... !!!!!!!! Its simply not going to happen, and American sound have learned that as far back as Vietnam.... Nor will other nations allow any nation to submit... because they will come to aid those whom we attack without right and just provocations. We should have learned that with the Korean War. Afghanistan was another lesson we should have learned from the Soviet Union, who had to pull out .... There's a whole world of nation that exist, and they will not back the Bully on the Block, when the Bully is wrong. people around the world protested the Invasion of Iraq, but we Bully Stomped Our Path Over there and resulted to damage and destabilize the Entire Middle East and Saturate The Entire World with a "Weapons Selling Frenzy"....

It's time we "Grow Up As A Nations".... and stop trying to be like the High School Bully of The World... and stop playing sucker for the Russian Agenda's anguish because it wants to rebuild the Former Soviet Collective of Nations. (Which Is Never Going To Happen as Putin Seeks It To)

Clean Energy will also help change many Dynamics in The Middle East, Saudi, already said that it was investing to build it future economy for diversification and not a total reliance on Oil. They see the change...
China in around early 2000's said it was moving away from "Rote Memorization Style Education", because it found degree related test score did not always translate into higher productions and more efficiency... its people have to investigate, invest in exploring and researching and using the point of inquiry, within education to advance and keep up with the fast change world society.
The Stupid thing is... America turn and ran to Rote Memorization for Test Taking... and in doing so, we've fallen to 27th in the world when it comes to Education.

RealityNow said:

BOTH SHOULD want to uphold the values of the Declaration of Independence, which gave us the process to have a REPUBLIC FORM OF REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNANCES, and it gave us the lead in to develop The Preamble to the Constitution and the Constitution.

People forget, back in early days, "white men" proclaimed for themselves that the Constitution was "only" for them, by claiming they were the only human beings who could be counted as "person"... Not women and not black people... Women were basically possessions that produced off-springs and held silence in National Affairs, and Blacks were not considered "persons', but Property, and only counted for the purpose of trying to increase the voting status of the wealthy who owned the land, and/or slave owners.

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To really understand history and perhaps learn from it, whatever events, happenings, etc. must be taken in the context of the times in which those events, happenings occurred. What you say is true. It was also the norm for almost every country in the world at the time. The United States or the thirteen colonies were basically no better or worst than most of the world when it came to women and slaves.

The big difference was our founders had an idea on how to change all of that and through a slow process make everyone equal. You didn't see England, France, Italy, China, India, any of the Arab countries or African countries institute a means for change at that time. There was only one. Like it or not, change takes times. Especially when those things you want to change are basically the normal mores of the world with possible a couple of exceptions.

Context is everything.

Perotista said:

To really understand history and perhaps learn from it, whatever events, happenings, etc. must be taken in the context of the times in which those events, happenings occurred. What you say is true. It was also the norm for almost every country in the world at the time. The United States or the thirteen colonies were basically no better or worst than most of the world when it came to women and slaves.

The big difference was our founders had an idea on how to change all of that and through a slow process make everyone equal. You didn't see England, France, Italy, China, India, any of the Arab countries or African countries institute a means for change at that time. There was only one. Like it or not, change takes times. Especially when those things you want to change are basically the normal mores of the world with possible a couple of exceptions.

Context is everything.

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THANK YOU ... that is an excellent comment!!! I appreciate greatly the truth that you speak. What you say is directly related to the beauty of The Declaration of Independence, and it reflect upon the highest of values of dignity and integrity The Preamable Speaks... and it certainly is the basis of what and how we address and respect our Constitution. As I spoke earlier, I said... as time moves the Constitution will be amended for clarity as well as surety that the values of what is America can be realized in ongoing process of making our Democracy Better.

I write and speak of the mindsets that were groomed from acts in previous times, and the great need to self reflect to learn that today, those things must change, and that is the beauty of understanding Contextual Progress of Contextual Perspectives.
At no time in the past did a platform like the Internet exist where people can speak to what was once not to be spoken. The context of the past was with grooming to disregard so much, and in that disregard, there was a delusions of superiority that was promoted, which in essence and fact there is no such thing. It was a perversion of what God made which is the human being, with all inalienable rights as person and individual, to have life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness... no man was given the right in Gods principles to take that from any man... God said, Love thy neighbor as one loves thyself... !! it cannot be made nor said more simple as to the premise of equality of person as individual.

All though history there was social grooming that taught white people 'Not to Listen to Black People"... even in the days of Fredrick Douglas, who spoke with great wisdom and assured elegance... his words were powerful, but the agenda of the era would not embrace them true essence of what he shared. Martin Luther King Jr. was a determined man, who ask not for any delusion of superiority but to all to embrace the greatest power within what mankind together can have, which is "Unity in acceptance of "every man" as equal as person, and individual in Civic, Civil, Social and be equal in having the accessibility to equilibrium in education, employment, opportunity for economic equilibrium.... He did not have "hate for white people'... he had love that was seeking to bring the redemption within their souls from the malice of divisiveness that society groomed within the contextual concepts. he did not go on a mission of fight 'fist with fist" or use "stick and stones, to stick and stones. He marched and in doing so, simply ask other man (white people) to respect the rights of others, as they want their rights to the basics of life respected.
He spoke to poor whites, as well as well to do whites. I think many can gain so much from the "Speech at Selma" if they read it with "context and open minds without bias, without anguish and without unfounded anticipation to seek to deny and deflect into diversions"...

The designers of the Declaration knew it would take man time, to bring so much diversity to all embrace American Democracy, and that process of outline was laid out in and through the Framers of the Constitution.

Some of the white people who read what I write may think I don't like white people, which is to me insidiously wrong. I have white people in my family, my skin tone tells the truth that there is a heritages of white people within my family lineage, and I have family members with a broad range of multi-ethnic and multicultural relations and off spring from those relations. I've lived with women of various different races, and the point and fact is "love is simply love".... in my work, over the years I helped "people", it mattered to me not what their race or their ethnicity, and even many who did not speak fluent English... I did not look down at them, I marveled with appreciation that they could speak more than one language, and I loved their determination they invested in being able to do so.

Therefore, AGAIN... what you say is so exactly on point. Because they were wise enough in their time to know, our task would be ones of continually make a better union, and in doing so we advance and make a better democracy.

We can't change the past, but we can learn from it, and in learning there is and will always be the process of change. That's among the many values process within the whole point of Learning....
There is no easy way to talk to people about the past and the needs of change, because so much was promoted not only in the homes, but within the churches that influenced their concepts through religious indoctrination's, and in social and civic environments, as well as civil public policy....

It takes a great determination to write out much of the things I write, and not get deterred, discouraged and give up. Many I share writing with, tell me... "why do you write, they are not going to listen", "why do you write, they don't want to learn", "why do you write, they don't want to change", "why do you want, because they only want to feel superior", "why do you write, because they don't respect human equality" and the list goes on...

But my response stays the same... I share the information and address the elements, because society has to learn that God Made All of Us, and he was so detailed in doing so, that he made it where not only can our blood be transfused to give in the assistance to prolonging each others life, our reproductive system can produce off springs, with a combination of all that is within each, and as many know... there are many very interesting beautiful people who come from and through mixed race relationships.... Racism, Bigots and Bias cannot change any of that, nor make it any less of a marvelous element to convince us that there is no one that is above another as to being a human beings, who is a person as individual.

I have no vain illusions that anything I write will flip the world to think... but if it helps one person, that is a positive contribution, if it gives one person some comfort to know they are not alone in thinking and wondering how we can find respect for each other as human beings... and it if touches one person who can feel comfortable to express their thought that advance us, then the writing have been beneficial...

I write so much, I could get an editor and make books... of which I've compiled maybe 100's of them... I write in blogs to communicate... no one can attack and drive me to cease sharing thoughts, I am not deterred by belligerent slap stick, put down and aims of some to denigrate and antagonize. Why would I submit to such insidiousness.

The Bible speaks of Truth, as well as it speaks of mankind's difficult with facing truth, but it also speaks that one can use truths to overcome fears, and as words have said... Seek the knowing of Truths and in knowing truths it sets one free...

Others have made comments about "fears, that the only thing to fear is fear itself, and to overcome it, face it with principles and fears dissipate. Mankind resist change because he seeks comfort in what he is commonly groomed within, and often time, its a cocoon, that he contains himself, which for some never allow themselves to evolve though the metamorphic change into the butterfly in life they can actually become to be...

RealityNow said:

THANK YOU ... that is an excellent comment!!! I appreciate greatly the truth that you speak. What you say is directly related to the beauty of The Declaration of Independence, and it reflect upon the highest of values of dignity and integrity The Preamable Speaks... and it certainly is the basis of what and how we address and respect our Constitution. As I spoke earlier, I said... as time moves the Constitution will be amended for clarity as well as surety that the values of what is America can be realized in ongoing process of making our Democracy Better.

I write and speak of the mindsets that were groomed from acts in previous times, and the great need to self reflect to learn that today, those things must change, and that is the beauty of understanding Contextual Progress of Contextual Perspectives.
At no time in the past did a platform like the Internet exist where people can speak to what was once not to be spoken. The context of the past was with grooming to disregard so much, and in that disregard, there was a delusions of superiority that was promoted, which in essence and fact there is no such thing. It was a perversion of what God made which is the human being, with all inalienable rights as person and individual, to have life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness... no man was given the right in Gods principles to take that from any man... God said, Love thy neighbor as one loves thyself... !! it cannot be made nor said more simple as to the premise of equality of person as individual.

All though history there was social grooming that taught white people 'Not to Listen to Black People"... even in the days of Fredrick Douglas, who spoke with great wisdom and assured elegance... his words were powerful, but the agenda of the era would not embrace them true essence of what he shared. Martin Luther King Jr. was a determined man, who ask not for any delusion of superiority but to all to embrace the greatest power within what mankind together can have, which is "Unity in acceptance of "every man" as equal as person, and individual in Civic, Civil, Social and be equal in having the accessibility to equilibrium in education, employment, opportunity for economic equilibrium.... He did not have "hate for white people'... he had love that was seeking to bring the redemption within their souls from the malice of divisiveness that society groomed within the contextual concepts. he did not go on a mission of fight 'fist with fist" or use "stick and stones, to stick and stones. He marched and in doing so, simply ask other man (white people) to respect the rights of others, as they want their rights to the basics of life respected.
He spoke to poor whites, as well as well to do whites. I think many can gain so much from the "Speech at Selma" if they read it with "context and open minds without bias, without anguish and without unfounded anticipation to seek to deny and deflect into diversions"...

The designers of the Declaration knew it would take man time, to bring so much diversity to all embrace American Democracy, and that process of outline was laid out in and through the Framers of the Constitution.

Some of the white people who read what I write may think I don't like white people, which is to me insidiously wrong. I have white people in my family, my skin tone tells the truth that there is a heritages of white people within my family lineage, and I have family members with a broad range of multi-ethnic and multicultural relations and off spring from those relations. I've lived with women of various different races, and the point and fact is "love is simply love".... in my work, over the years I helped "people", it mattered to me not what their race or their ethnicity, and even many who did not speak fluent English... I did not look down at them, I marveled with appreciation that they could speak more than one language, and I loved their determination they invested in being able to do so.

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Progress gets stopped at times. Sometimes for a long time. It's like Tectonic plates over a subduction zone. Those plates could be stuck for decades or centuries, then boom, they move, earthquake, upheaval. Progress is like that at times, stuck for a very long time, but boom, rapid progress and rapid upheaval to the likes no one thought possible.

Perotista said:

Progress gets stopped at times. Sometimes for a long time. It's like Tectonic plates over a subduction zone. Those plates could be stuck for decades or centuries, then boom, they move, earthquake, upheaval. Progress is like that at times, stuck for a very long time, but boom, rapid progress and rapid upheaval to the likes no one thought possible.

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You are very good at using your intellect to see the big picture!!! It's us...the people as Americans, that will continue the work to expand what is America and how continues to learn embracing each other as Americans. It is as you say , a slow process, but the speed can change, because we can change as we grow, and we will change as we grow... nothing, remains the same, and as you speak of the tectonic plates that shift the mantel of the earth, so is there events and times and voice that shift society, it has done that since the beginning of mankind's existence. mankind has always sought to know of other mankind, and to learn from, with and through other mankind... we can manage what is greed and the damages it has done, when we want the same for others that we want for ourselves, then we learn how to be fair within our exchanges. That too is coming more real everyday.

In this pandemic, we see poor people finding great delight in helping others, they don't concern themselves with skin color, economic status, job titles, what community one comes from or what is their ethnicity cultural habits are... THEY SIMPLY HELP... and the gracious smiles that go back and forth is a marvelous things. There are many who have the least, who live the most because they give not just of their time, but their heart and in many cases they give as much as they can of all they have. We see much death happening, but its contrasted by the good that people have brought to the forefront of how much they care to be with care about, for and of others. ... We found this within the middle of one of the great tragedies that sweeps the world... under such ... we certainly can learn to remain being the same and doing the same in good times as well.
Many of the people in the programs that helps other find their personal stresses are less, because they find their living is truly within their giving, and we can all learning that our best living comes through our giving.


In this forum, Conservative, Liberals, Libertarians and Independence... flee quickly from engaging when subject matter touches the zone of uncomfortably, that touches their select set of "reservations of the past systems they want to hold on to"... and many covert embrace those wants, but will deny they do so in open forum. If people were truly interested in honest debate, not only would they engage to expound to promote positivism, they'd share links among their friends and associates to open dialog and find that it helps them even get to know their friends better. I share links to post I write, as well I share links to post others have written, and I engage dialog with friends and associates about it.
Some even ask me to write about certain aspects and points and factors.... I understand what their concerns are and what their want to have things put in open form to be reflected upon...

So I'm not here to play slap stick games, I take the word and principle of why the creator of this site created it... which was as it's name said "Debate Politics"... and I speak about the politics of living, as well as that of governing system, and the politics of socialist community.. and the politics that we must evolve to embrace to make better the graceful gift we have to live in one of the Greatest Designs of a Nation... that exist on the Planet Earth... that was born of "Diversity", and its Declaration of Independence was founded to Respect Diversity in Building a Better Nations, it was and is such an elaborate design, it has 50 States that have 50 different tonalities of how people can make and shape life, under the banner of The Declarations' establishment of Independence, and its Representative Form of Governance... and the Federal System established some common principles that All 50 State must respect, to remain a strong Union and still be Independent States under the Declarations as The United States... known as "America".

We have such a beautiful opportunity... we should never allow racism, bigotry, bias, greed and malice bring us to continue generation after generations to damage it so terribly bad, behind a fvile concept of having ill respect for the Diversity the Nations was built to Unify into being "AMERICANS" within AMERICA.!!! The words "American" is not about a single race, it is a graceful title that many races embrace to support the unit as Americans, to build grown and expand "America" and strength the Democracy that builds out Future.

I've seen many things, I've had the exotic super cars, luxury cars, hot rods and a variety of various models, top of the line motorcycles and etc of gadgets and stuff... I've had the multiple homes and the million dollar valuations.... and I came from a monetarily poor family but a very wealthy family in what matters, which was "Spiritual Truths, Moral Values, Integrity, and Dignity and Quality values of character.
I don't need to have all those material things to be who I am... they were and are what they are, but they don't make the measure for me as to who I am. I've met more historical entertainment figures, political people and other public known people and a long list of people in a broad variety of professions, to the top executives of major global companies, who knew me on a first name basis.
Yet, not of that makes the measure of whom I care to be as a person. All of such does give one contextual perspectives to learn from. I met Trump and had a handshake with him years ago before his tone and commentary became what it is today. Trump was raised to put money above all other things, is has done great long term damages to his ideology, which makes him very short in the humanitarian perspective, because he was raised to see money as the ultimate. that has proven to be a very damaging way to have been groomed, because it has little concept of tolerant to the realism's of the everyday human challenges, that are not all related to "money" or having "money".

When it comes to money, he wants to see the nation prosper, but it has never prospered based solely on or about money. Money is merely a tool, that works best in accord and regard with and for humanity. That is not what is taught when one is taught to measure the acquisition of money as the primary goal. Race divisiveness what a system he grew up in, and was taught to uphold long before he left the teen age years of his life.
He was also taught that his monetary status was above those of lesser means, and he learned how to have manipulative power over the poor and working poor whites he encountered, because of their "idolization of people with money"... its was and is a great recipe for abuse of people, and disregard for the intricate depths of peoples lives.

Confederacy Ideals were taught at the Wharton School, because its original design was to teach "industrial leaders how to keep money in the hands of the Industrialist' and to fight against the working persons want and needs as it comes to functional economic income to sustain a way of life, but to ensure they remained in need of reliance upon the Industrialist, which was an assurance that the Industrialist would always stay on top and stately exasperated from the working class.

Trump followers don't know any of this, but he told them and they did not understand what he said. When he said, "He could shoot someone on Fifth Ave and they'd not leave him"... that is what he learned in youth, flaunt the jet, the flaunt the helicopter and talk about his wealth, show his name on properties and created a back drop of more flags than the stage was designed to hold... and ensure to prompt the people with contempt at anything that does not pander to him and his ideas.
Today, his concern is not about how many people will be infected and may die... it is about "how to get people back to generating money. that means how much death is acceptable as collateral damages to do so.

There has always been profit in the making for the wealthy, by the promotions of "divisiveness", the old phrase... "when there is blood in the streets, buy up the land".... that ideal prey on the creation and promotion of conflict to generate the situation to capitalize when the people engage conflicts, that are futile and non productive, and the more futile and non productive it becomes for the people, the higher the profit margin is for the wealthy.

This game is as old as civilization and as damaging today as it was to previous civilizations and the empires they built, only to see them ultimately crash by the same malice they utilized to build them.

We today, are in the process and stand at the end of that downfall and we engaging acts that perpetuate its procession.

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You are very good at using your intellect to see the big picture!!! It's us...the people as Americans, that will continue the work to expand what is America and how continues to learn embracing each other as Americans. It is as you say , a slow process, but the speed can change, because we can change as we grow, and we will change as we grow... nothing, remains the same, and as you speak of the tectonic plates that shift the mantel of the earth, so is there events and times and voice that shift society, it has done that since the beginning of mankind's existence. mankind has always sought to know of other mankind, and to learn from, with and through other mankind... we can manage what is greed and the damages it has done, when we want the same for others that we want for ourselves, then we learn how to be fair within our exchanges. That too is coming more real everyday.

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We have such a beautiful opportunity... we should never allow racism, bigotry, bias, greed and malice bring us to continue generation after generations to damage it so terribly bad, behind a fvile concept of having ill respect for the Diversity the Nations was built to Unify into being "AMERICANS" within AMERICA.!!! The words "American" is not about a single race, it is a graceful title that many races embrace to support the unit as Americans, to build grown and expand "America" and strength the Democracy that builds out Future.

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Perhaps I'm lucky. I live out in the country and it has always been neighbors helping neighbors. Where I live is basically a retired military community or folks who use to work for the military. I think for most military types, race means little to nothing. I'm retired military, 21 years and then another 26 working for the army as a Department of the Army Civilian.

I'm married to a Thai. One of my neighbors to the left is black, retired Air Force is married a Korean. My oldest daughter lives across the road, married to a Laotian. We have a Cambodian couple in the house to my right. Next to them is another retired Army white guy who married a black gal. Then directly across the road from me is a nice black couple who moved down from New Jersey. Probably the only true civilians in the area. We always give him a hard time about not being military.

But when Ft. McPherson closed down and FORSCOM move up to Ft. Bragg, I went with them for 18 months. Paul, his name was always checking on the wife. Great guy for a dang civilian. Needless to say, he's forgiven for that oversight.

Perotista said:

Perhaps I'm lucky. I live out in the country and it has always been neighbors helping neighbors. Where I live is basically a retired military community or folks who use to work for the military. I think for most military types, race means little to nothing. I'm retired military, 21 years and then another 26 working for the army as a Department of the Army Civilian.

I'm married to a Thai. One of my neighbors to the left is black, retired Air Force is married a Korean. My oldest daughter lives across the road, married to a Laotian. We have a Cambodian couple in the house to my right. Next to them is another retired Army white guy who married a black gal. Then directly across the road from me is a nice black couple who moved down from New Jersey. Probably the only true civilians in the area. We always give him a hard time about not being military.

But when Ft. McPherson closed down and FORSCOM move up to Ft. Bragg, I went with them for 18 months. Paul, his name was always checking on the wife. Great guy for a dang civilian. Needless to say, he's forgiven for that oversight.

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You exemplify exactly what I continue writing about...as to the beauty of "Diversity" !!!!

So many others who engage this site, take it as if I have something against white people... which I don't, I have issue with the system that still tries to promote Confederacy Ideals under the banner of Conservatism... George Wallace, promoted segregationist agenda in the 1960's but learn to change as he got older... During his time promoting segregation he spoke of how,blacks would want to participate in the programs the congress established and will establish... and to them, that was upsetting their program of shifting tax money to the well to do and wealthy whites, "which they called "Their Way Of Life"... which was a designed sham to extract from the working poor whites and minorities all the resource benefit they should have had access to that was created from their tax money too. Blacks could not go to parks, public swimming pools, yet their tax money helps build and support it, and many poor whites were not welcome because they could not afford to live in the well to do community, so they simply did not go there, because they knew they were not welcome, yet their tax money helped build and maintain it as well.

Conservatism has always wanted to "direct tax resources to WHAT THEY WANT''' and fight against it being to directed to areas and people they did not want it to go to. You will never hear Conservative crying and whining about Budget and Debt during a Republican Led Administration, because they move money to serve themselves, but the minute a Democrat is in office, all they talk about is Budget and Debt... and then have the audacity to claim minorities, women and poor whites want something for nothing, when true fact is, those who are well to do and wealthy delude the poor whites to follow conservatism, in a way as if to use them to be protectors of the same well to do and wealthy who fleece them continually, because they see them under the labels they placed on them which is "poor whites", and "white trash".... if their son or daughter brought a poor white home, the well to do and wealthy parents would have a long counseling session with their kids, and some have in the past, threatened their kids with dis-inheritance.

Many Conservatives don't even know the real story behind the label... and they blind themselves to the fact every Republican so called Conservative has either crashed the economy, drove up interest rates, ripped off the stock market and stagnated wages and busted the budget and expanded the national debt. Now, there is absolutely NOTHING Fiscally Conservative about any of that.

Even many who claim themselves liberal, if you note they go silent, because sadly some are all for Liberal Policy, until they fear loosing elements of "white privilege" or they fear that it will cause them to dig deep down and abandon the unspoken concept of white superior concepts. some speak out in words, other use silence and silence at particular time, screams far louder than those who many speak a few slap stick words of denial, deflecting and bias and etc.

Go to any post that is about "drama spin" and both the Liberal, Libertarians, Independent and the Republicans flock to it, to play battle each other for a ego "one up" and they will make a 100 pages of that spin.
it never even dawns on their minds to address post that actually speak of the dynamics of the American social and ideologies behind it. it would never cross their mind to share links to engage expanded dialog about anything.

Weakness shows when belligerence leads... and fear shows when contempt blocks the mind from exploring the engage of fact finding and discovery. because they are afraid they may have to learn to change... and that would purely "burst their bubble of confabulated folklore...

RealityNow said:

A Time To Awaken!!! "When Republicans use the term "Deep State", they are Describing Their Own Agenda

Throughout this Forum Many post outline the details in many fractional parts.... of exactly what this thread is addressing.

~ November 3rd will decide, are we a Proactive nation, or a Reactive nation?

~ Truths society has long ago revealed...

~ Republicanism and its Mentality

~ The Next Decade

People seem to have forgotten Eric Cantor' and Paul Ryan... both engaged their attacks at Social Security. among the many other things they attacked.

Ronald Reagan, de-funding Community Colleges and State Universities and his unsanction War in Central America that led to the flooding of American poor communities with cocaine... that has led to a cycle of damaging drugs across the nation.

Guess people don't know as far back as Nixon, when the prices of a loaf of bread "doubled"... and during his Presidency, the Petro Dollar Program was created.... and "Watergate" captivated the Nation as to the vile Republicans would engage for power. During his same term, he set up the process to 'Export Ore Processing to China".. which led to the devastation of American Ore Processing and finally the exodus of Major Steel Manufacturing Plants and the Rust Belt was Devastated and Union Busting went into overdrive.

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All Moderate and Liberal Voters no matter what party…. must assume CONSERVATIVES may have purged YOU from the voting rolls. Any way possible: http://www.pfaw.org/rww-in-focus/al...te-special-interests-state-legislatures#Voter

Okay let's plan ahead = VOTE VOTE VOTE !


Voters ORGANIZE A VOTING DAY PACKET which could contain:

— 2 separate and recent*Utility Bills*(bills from within the past 6 months prior to Election Day,*like 1 Phone Bill and 1 Power Bill) that will prove*where your LEGAL Precinct is, and validate your Voter*residency.
Those 2 distinct utility bills should*satisfy many*State's "Voter*Proof of Residency" registration and same-day Voting requirements........*

--- a birth certificate

 --- drivers license or state ID card

--- proof of voter registration etc etc etc.

--- Passport

--- Keep it close by to secure your voting opportunities .

--- I do have mine absolutely!

Let's get on with it. WE voters have a mess to clean up.

 Sorry to say the grand ole party that represented the Fiscal Conservative/Socially Responsible republicans is dead.

Over thrown by a radical right wing Libertarian coup over the past 39 years led by Charles Koch $$$$$.



Once again….Voters BEGIN ORGANIZING YOUR VOTING DAY PACKET. Keep it close by ALWAYS.


Make sure a birth certificate is readily available which can be replaced through the county seat one was born …..It may take about 3 weeks