It's Time For American Democracy Loving Citizens, to AWAKEN!!!

It's Time For American Democracy Loving Citizens, to AWAKEN, and see the "Undermining of America Democracy" by Republican Conservative Right Wing Confederacy Agenda.

2020 - Vote - Democrat - and let's Restore The Integrity Unto and Into American Democracy, and get back to Respecting the Principles of the Declaration of Independence and the great nations it outlined in and of its design for America. "Equality of Person as Individual"....

As sad day in the nation when Republican have bastardized the Senate, and did grave damage within the House before it was taken over by Democrats, and the march of Republicanism's Agenda, which included elements of the Right Wing led military industrial complex, the operatives of Republicanism within the intelligence service, the various organizations of mafia, and the business elite. The goal of this alliance, is not just simple, it has a constructive agenda, which is includes, attack by any means to discredit anyone who challenge Republicanism's Conservative Agenda. The clandestine service, groups and organizations and individuals that back this Republicanism, supports its connected forms of mafia, and far-right political activists together work to employ any means to reverse the American Democracy and reverse any element of Civic and Civil Equality; to try and retain in the hands of wealthy white men, and promote its plutocratic authoritarian programming.

Trump brought in Steve Bannon and tried to install his Right Wing Agenda of White Nationalist Dominance over key important segments of the Administration, then brought in Jeff Sessions, who was suppose to usher in Confederacy Styled Control over the Justice Department, and placed people in cabinet position, who were known adversaries of the very Departments and Divisions they were to oversee.
We can go down the list, but the list is too long for a forum script, but take for example, Betsy DeVos, who has continued to move funds and policy away from public schools and diverted focus attention and resources to private schools that cater to the wealthy. Then, there's Steven Miller, the hard core right winger who has set full assault upon non white immigrants, especially from Mexico and Central America.

Trump has praised and pander to Putin by every means, and the long list of operatives that engaged with collusive engagements with Russians to build their alliance to try and create the type of Rule that Putin has where Oligarchy's controls every resources and monetary generating enterprise of major public provisions.

People should not be hoodwinked we've seen damages done to Allied Nations, The U.N., N.A.T.O. and now the W.H.O... and America's Integrity.

Now a Right Wing Stacked Supreme Court...
Supreme Court blocks House from Mueller grand jury material

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We've seen incessant attacks on the Media, as if it was a remake of "Hitler's Program" of discredit the Media and try and confound and confuse the people... while Trump feeds them spin and deflections....

Look at acts by the forces of malice, of any sort and disregard for policy and with no regard for procedures.... People seem to have forgotten the firing of missiles in the sand, as a grand distraction, which saw a desecration of process in how Gorsuch was placed on the Supreme Court.

Some have outlined long list of the Republican and Trump Abuses... and we can go all the way back to McConnell and the Republican Pledge to Oppose Anything and Everything Obama did... to the Tea Part Shutting down the Government, and Trump again Shutting down the Government. "The Authoritarian Agenda fully at work' each time. Then we see the massive Tax Give Away to the Wealthy, while Infrastructure Crumbles and Nations Debt is blow up astronomically, and no infrastructure, and no health care. People seem to forget the " Killer Program" Republican promoted which would have decimated the senior citizen population, and damaged the working poor, and then on to the disregard for the Environment, and the bills set to law to rape the lands resources and risk environmental damages simply to promote access for the greed of a few.

Now, Trump wants to rush America's kids into mass public schools and decimate the future population... because the wealthy will go to private schools that have every protective measure that can be put in place. They see, as Betsy DeVos has show, they consider public schools a drain away of money from the wealthy, and they'd like nothing more than to destroy anything that provides government supported public services and assistance to the general public.
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A Time To Awaken!!! "When Republicans use the term "Deep State", they are Describing Their Own Agenda -

A Time To Awaken!!! "When Republicans use the term "Deep State", they are Describing Their Own Agenda

Throughout this Forum Many post outline the details in many fractional parts.... of exactly what this thread is addressing.

~ November 3rd will decide, are we a Proactive nation, or a Reactive nation?

~ Truths society has long ago revealed...

~ Republicanism and its Mentality

~ The Next Decade

People seem to have forgotten Eric Cantor' and Paul Ryan... both engaged their attacks at Social Security. among the many other things they attacked.

Ronald Reagan, de-funding Community Colleges and State Universities and his unsanction War in Central America that led to the flooding of American poor communities with cocaine... that has led to a cycle of damaging drugs across the nation.

Guess people don't know as far back as Nixon, when the prices of a loaf of bread "doubled"... and during his Presidency, the Petro Dollar Program was created.... and "Watergate" captivated the Nation as to the vile Republicans would engage for power. During his same term, he set up the process to 'Export Ore Processing to China".. which led to the devastation of American Ore Processing and finally the exodus of Major Steel Manufacturing Plants and the Rust Belt was Devastated and Union Busting went into overdrive.

It's time America People stop waffling and stop trying to deny what it is seeing and experience from the system of Republicanism. It has been a process since the Civil War, where they amassed as the Dixiecrat's and when they could not block Civil Rights Act of 1964, they sought to confuse the people, by "taking their agenda into the Republican Party, and by 1965, they had set up shop in the Republican Party.

People seem not to know or don't remember, that The Immigration Act of 1965, which gave the Republican Party, "White Entrenchment", because the Immigration Act of 1965 moved to allow a program that balance Immigration for Ethnicity and Race, and not just continue with the 75-80% coming mainly from nations with predominantly "White Skin" people.
Trump tried by every means to expand and reverse the principles of Immigration in seeking to place Immigration Bans on people from "non white nations"... by a continuing cycle of promoting distention and negativity about people, and pushing the White Nationalist Agenda, of "White Dominance" in the system of Immigrant Accessibility to Immigrate.

People should "READ" more, and stop deluding themselves, and people should stop being and acting as if they are 'willfully ignorant", with it comes to what is American Democracy and what is the Values laid out in the Declaration of Independence. If they know these things... there is no question and no waffling as to how to vote. They will overwhelmingly vote out the system of Republicanism.

(A). Those that waffle and claim they are confused or don't know which way they will vote... are people who covertly hold a reservation of wanting to continue and maintain elements of white nationalism and expect to regain some aspects of white privilege at the expense of others.

(B). Those who waffle and claim they are confused, are willing to support the bastardization of our Governance Systems, the abuses of power from the Republicanism's Political Deep State, that works 'counter to the principles of our Declaration of Independence, as they seek to weaken the principles and values of the Constitution and subvert the system of Laws by any collusive means.

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People need to come to terms with their responsibility to advance America... not pander and waffle as if they think they can re-create the past and recreate white nationalist agenda and retain aspects of fictions of white privilege for the poor whites, while promoting white privilege for well to do and wealthy whites, at their own expense and devastation.

This demonstrate the vain ignorance of individuals.... and America cannot meet its future with that kind of vile and madness in the masses. It makes America look and show the level of Civic Ignorance, and the World watches as it shows and example of more reason not to Trust or Respect America and it conveys that America is Bias, Bigoted and Prejudiced in its aims to try and promote the insidious vile of White Nationalist Agenda.

It's time People AWAKEN.... and overcome the self centered madness of "waffling" with hope to try and retain the inequity of "white privilege"... when fact is, it was only designed for well to do and wealthy whites, with no regard for "poor whites" and "working poor whites" other than to use them as "guard dogs like beings" to protect "white privilege for the well to do and the wealthy, while they are being themselves stripped and trapped in cycles of economic inequity and forms of destitution.

People need to see the vile of Republicanism and its Conservative Agenda of Confederacy Ideals.

It's time to take a long and hard look at yourself and figure out "who you are"....

(1). Are you an American who respect the Declaration of Independence,

OR

(2). Are you a person who supports the Ideals of Republican Conservative Confederacy....


(Don't pretend you don't know where you fit between the two choices)

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For some and they know whom they are, as you run fast and try and hide and be covert... you can't hide from yourself!!!! to try and do so, exemplifies that you are not of the "Spirit of America"... Nor, are you of the "Lover's of America Democracy"

There is good signs of Truth by The History of Realists and Actual Events The Thread Is Addressing... Its become even more so evident, when the Republican/Conservatives have nothing to say and can't logically nor principally refute what is stated. All they can render is slap stick sarcasms or spin and try and deflect.

It's time People AWAKEN.... and learn to be decisive with firm understanding of what and how American Democracy was Design To Function.....

Mostly, as sad as it is to say, it's primarily "white people" who waffle.... by denial, deflect and spin on how to try to preserve elements of the past ethnic and racial privileges they once held, that once dominated the nation.

People who don't try and hold on to that Reservation... have absolutely no problem... calling out the malice of Republican Conservatism and its Confederacy Ideals Agenda.

The Republican/Conservatives would love to "bury the thread".... by any means they can conjure up.... but "They can't Bury the Facts".

The 2010 Census reveals that America is a nation on the precipice of immense change, says William Frey. The data tell us that our aging population will give way to the most diverse generation of Americans to date and that our metropolitan areas must be prepared to meet the many challenges that will accompany future population trends.

State policies to promote shared prosperity in cities

The urgent need for policy innovation comes precisely as the aging of the population and retirement of the baby boomer generation squeezes state budgets through pensions, healthcare and human services (Felix and Watkins 2013). Meanwhile, the federal government is cutting its investments in communities and the social safety net (Kogan and Bryant 2019).

In this environment, the leaders who are most committed to building shared prosperity in their cities and states understand they need to do things differently. Not only do they need to learn from one another and elevate the work of their colleagues, but they also need to think creatively and build new partnerships with others in their regions.

States are natural partners for city and regional leaders. State policy is critical to the health and well-being of cities and metropolitan areas. State investments in both people (healthcare, education and the safety net) and places (transportation, infrastructure, housing and parks) can dramatically affect the economy and quality of life in its communities. And the economic and fiscal health of a state fundamentally affects its ability to make these investments.

City and regional leaders are also natural partners for states. Cities increasingly drive innovation and economic growth, and state leaders should support and harness this growth to promote statewide prosperity.

Cities are also on the front lines of the demographic changes that are slowly transforming state populations: By the end of the next decade, a majority of the country’s under-30 population will be people of color. How these growing populations fare in the coming years will determine whether current economic disparities persist, grow or narrow over time, not only within states but also in smaller communities now beginning to experience similar demographic shifts.

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The Old System built upon White Nationalism is dying and will die out as its doing day by day.... The dying of White Nationalism is a Blessing for America!!!! This brings America steps closer to meeting the Values put forth in the Original Declaration of Independence. It brings the Nation closer to meeting the Values laid out in the Preamble for ALL American People... These changes it will bring Amendments to the Constitution to ensure clarity and no longer allow White Nationalist Interpretations to Bastardize The Constitution.

RealityNow said:

It's Time For American Democracy Loving Citizens, to AWAKEN, and see the "Undermining of America Democracy" by Republican Conservative Right Wing Confederacy Agenda.

2020 - Vote - Democrat - and let's Restore The Integrity Unto and Into American Democracy, and get back to Respecting the Principles of the Declaration of Independence and the great nations it outlined in and of its design for America. "Equality of Person as Individual"....



We've seen incessant attacks on the Media, as if it was a remake of "Hitler's Program" of discredit the Media and try and confound and confuse the people... while Trump feeds them spin and deflections....

Look at acts by the forces of malice, of any sort and disregard for policy and with no regard for procedures.... People seem to have forgotten the firing of missiles in the sand, as a grand distraction, which saw a desecration of process in how Gorsuch was placed on the Supreme Court.

Some have outlined long list of the Republican and Trump Abuses... and we can go all the way back to McConnell and the Republican Pledge to Oppose Anything and Everything Obama did... to the Tea Part Shutting down the Government, and Trump again Shutting down the Government. "The Authoritarian Agenda fully at work' each time. Then we see the massive Tax Give Away to the Wealthy, while Infrastructure Crumbles and Nations Debt is blow up astronomically, and no infrastructure, and no health care. People seem to forget the " Killer Program" Republican promoted which would have decimated the senior citizen population, and damaged the working poor, and then on to the disregard for the Environment, and the bills set to law to rape the lands resources and risk environmental damages simply to promote access for the greed of a few.

Now, Trump wants to rush America's kids into mass public schools and decimate the future population... because the wealthy will go to private schools that have every protective measure that can be put in place. They see, as Betsy DeVos has show, they consider public schools a drain away of money from the wealthy, and they'd like nothing more than to destroy anything that provides government supported public services and assistance to the general public.

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Thanks for the laughs.

You need to get a job at the Babylon Bee.

Deny anything that appease you.... Slap stick commentary won't serve you well in the ever evolving and continually unfolding future.

The DNC or the communist party must be paying this guy.

Grandpappy said:

The DNC or the communist party must be paying this guy.

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Trying to equate American Democracy to Communism.... sounds more like a "Confederacy Spin" that wants States To Usurp Federal Governance.

A good suggestion for you is to Read and Learn The Declaration of Independence and The Preamble to the Constitution.....you may learn what is American Democracy, therefore you might gain understanding if the capability of critical thinking is within your grasp.... Then you'd not try to make such slap stick one liner commentary.

RealityNow said:

The 2010 Census reveals that America is a nation on the precipice of immense change, says William Frey. The data tell us that our aging population will give way to the most diverse generation of Americans to date and that our metropolitan areas must be prepared to meet the many challenges that will accompany future population trends.


The Old System built upon White Nationalism is dying and will die out as its doing day by day.... The dying of White Nationalism is a Blessing for America!!!! This brings America steps closer to meeting the Values put forth in the Original Declaration of Independence. It brings the Nation closer to meeting the Values laid out in the Preamble for ALL American People... These changes it will bring Amendments to the Constitution to ensure clarity and no longer allow White Nationalist Interpretations to Bastardize The Constitution.

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there is barely any white nationalism in america, but you know what there is? a lot of oligarchs willing to sell us out to china to make a buck, that;s what.

that is what you better be scurred of.

Trump is the only President in HISTORY to take a tough stance on trade with China. we best keep him around unless we want to be a lackey to the CCP.

Hypothetical said:

there is barely any white nationalism in america, but you know what there is? a lot of oligarchs willing to sell us out to china to make a buck, that;s what.

that is what you better be scurred of.

Trump is the only President in HISTORY to take a tough stance on trade with China. we best keep him around unless we want to be a lackey to the CCP.

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In America they are not called "Oligarch's" they are called " Plutocrats"... the exact same as the Plutocratic System that the Confederacy Adopted in it's program of slavery and indenture and overlords of the land promoted under share-cropping scams.....

Today, it is Republican who promote not only Plutocratic Agenda, they promote the same type of Authoritarianism that also was part of the Confederacy system which functioned to contain and devastate people.

Here's A List Of Trump Merchandise That's Made In America.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/08/26/how-many-trump-products-were-made-overseas-heres-the-complete-list/

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All Trump is doing is trying to "jockey to get agreement for lowering the price on Trump Logo products that are made in China".... Along with being pissed off that China won't indulge him in his Real Estate Schemes...
Trump had tried for more than a decade to register trademarks in China to provide “construction-information,” essentially real estate agent, services in that country, only to be met with a series of unsuccessful rulings and appeals. Since 2005, Trump has applied for at least 130 trademarks in China, all of which—until recently—were met with zero success.

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Donald Trump used Chinese steel and aluminum. The United States has a long history of producing high-quality steel and aluminum, but Trump chose Chinese manufacturers in at least two of his recent construction projects. The Trump International Hotel Las Vegas and the Trump International Hotel & Tower Chicago both used tons of Chinese metals.

The origin of the steel used was obscured. The origin of the steel used to build the Trump hotel in Las Vegas was hidden through a tangle of “various corporate entities, including holding companies registered in the British Virgin Islands," a popular location for offshore entities who place a premium on, ahem, discretion.

Trump spent at least $350 million on Chinese aluminum. Newsweek estimated Trump used 207,000 feet of Chinese aluminum for the Trump hotel in Chicago. Conservative estimates based on pound per foot means at least $350 million in sales went to a subsidiary of a Chinese aluminum manufacturer. This, when the American aluminum industry is collapsing. In the past two years, “more than half of the country’s aluminum smelters in states like Ohio, West Virginia and Texas have closed as a result of being undercut on price by competition from overseas.”

Trump’s use of Chinese steel and aluminum is at the expense of America's workers. Trump doesn’t operate a publicly traded company, and he has no fiduciary obligation to shareholders. His decisions are all about higher profits for himself and his family at the expense of American producers and their employees.

Trump pays his Chinese partners. Or at least there aren’t any reports of Chinese steel or aluminum companies suing to be paid. Unlike in the United States, where workers have time and time again had to sue Trump in order to receive a partial payment for completed jobs.

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You guys demonstrate why people call Trump supporters "Cultist"... because as with the Trump Cult Members, they don't care about "Facts" they only embed themselves in devotion behind what Trump spins.

With the generalized short attention span that is overtly evident, and the challenges to reading information and understanding what is read... has been a ongoing symptom within the cult program of how cult members are groomed to function. That is the system that embedded itself within White Nationalism. Many NOT ALL white people can't figure out how to vote, for trying to find ways to hold on to concepts of white privilege, obsessing over money, and trying to sustain and promote White Skin based Agenda.. of trying to push a delusion as if "everyone is suppose to emulate them", as if they are some "Symbol Model of American"

Every actions Trump engages with China, is about Trump... either about not getting what he personally wants, or to get what he personally wants for Trump Business... it has nothing to do with "Full International Relations, Trade and Commerce between the United States and China"... it is about Trump's vengeance for not being able to Trample in China created his "scam designed real estate deals" and try and use his trademarks to profit off of Chinese Labor.

then, lo and behold, China’s approval of one of Trump’s trademark applications became official—coincidentally only a few days after Trump reversed his previous position and endorsed the “one China” policy. This policy effectively recognizes the People’s Republic of China as the legitimate government of the mainland territory while allowing the U.S. government to have unofficial relations with Taiwan, governed by the Republic of China. In March 2017, China granted preliminary approval for 38 additional Trump trademarks, applications for which had been submitted in April 2016. While there are conflicting views about whether the process and timing of Trump’s recent trademark approvals are suspect, the reality of the matter is that in China, every administrative or judicial decision is a political one based on the government’s preferences and priorities; courts in China are not independent, but rather they report directly to the CPC.

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This is why Trump said overtly, he liked the "un-educated"... because he knows they don't research, they don't engage critical thinking, they have short attention spans, and they fall for any promotion of anything by the usage of "belligerence and attack mentality".... His followers become like a "wild possee"... any time he "get on the stump to do a "Posse Call" with the Belligerence and Go Attack Something... Spews'

LOL. Both Obama and Biden were bought out by people and corporations heavily invested in China. Thus, "Those jobs aren't coming back" Obama and "The Chinese are good folks, folks" Biden are both stuffed shirt, anti-America liars.
When will you leftists realize the slop the DNC dishes out is unadulterated crap?

Grandpappy said:

LOL. Both Obama and Biden were bought out by people and corporations heavily invested in China. Thus, "Those jobs aren't coming back" Obama and "The Chinese are good folks, folks" Biden are both stuffed shirt, anti-America liars.
When will you leftists realize the slop the DNC dishes out is unadulterated crap?

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Gawd. Know what I picture when I read your posts? Every intelligent conservative on this board looking at what you've written and saying to their screen, "Just shut the **** up!"

RealityNow said:

It's Time For American Democracy Loving Citizens, to AWAKEN, and see the "Undermining of America Democracy" by Republican Conservative Right Wing Confederacy Agenda.

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Your mistake is the presumption that Republicans alone are the great threat to out democracy.

The great threat to our democrat republic is a disenfranchised, angry to the point of detachment, unconscious, electorate that refuses to educate itself (a good part of it has no idea how their government even works.... I mean they can’t even tell you the names of the three segments of government, how many Justices on the Supreme Court, things of that nature) and even if they have the basics aren’t actually informed on current events. Oh, they can regurgitate headline talking points of their tribe, but not speak in-depth in a balanced, well rounded, way on the topics of the day that suggests cohesive, critical, thinking was involved.

What’s more, since our schools no longer teach civics or critical thinking I’m not sure that isn’t on purpose. I mean if you want to have an oligarchy parading around pretending to be a Constitutional republic with democratically elected representatives the first thing you’d have to do is dumb down the electorate to the point that they’d be so busy fighting amongst themselves they wouldn’t notice what the oligarchs were up to.

Grandpappy said:

LOL. Both Obama and Biden were bought out by people and corporations heavily invested in China. Thus, "Those jobs aren't coming back" Obama and "The Chinese are good folks, folks" Biden are both stuffed shirt, anti-America liars.
When will you leftists realize the slop the DNC dishes out is unadulterated crap?

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Another Standard, Republican Attempt At Deflection.... Geez!!! and your, "whatoboutisms"

Trump in a position to profit from an individual—Xiao Yan Chen—who has ties to the highest echelons of the Chinese government and military and who would benefit enormously from access to the U.S. government. ((the Trump Organization sold a $15.8 million penthouse apartment in Trump Tower to Chinese-American business executive Xiao Yan Chen, who also goes by the name Angela Chen and has been directly linked to a front group for Chinese military intelligence through the misleadingly innocuous-sounding China Arts Foundation))

Trump has been dependent on Chinese money for quite a while. According to an investigation by The New York Times, Trump holds 30 percent ownership of an office building in Manhattan at 1290 Avenue of the Americas, for which four lenders, including the state-owned Bank of China, provided a $950 million loan in 2012. Commenting on the loan, Richard Painter, George W. Bush’s chief White House ethics lawyer, stated, “Any payments from foreign governments or payments from banks controlled by foreign governments would fall under the emoluments clause. The loans from the Bank of China could be an issue.” The Emoluments Clause of the U.S. Constitution makes it illegal for a U.S. president to directly benefit from payments from foreign powers.

The reach of Chinese influence and money has also been linked to the president’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner. In 2016, Kushner Companies, which until recently was headed by Jared Kushner, was desperate to find outside money to put into a property at 666 Fifth Avenue for which his company had paid $1.8 billion in 2007—an outlandish overpayment in light of the subsequent 2008 market crash. The Fifth Avenue property was badly overleveraged and risked collapsing Kushner’s entire company. Once again, Chinese money seemed eager to come to the rescue. Kushner began talks with the massive Chinese financial firm Anbang Insurance Group to undertake a joint venture to redevelop the Fifth Avenue property.

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This is not the late 1800's -1964 system or the Post-1964 through the Reagan Era System ... Where "white men could do anything they want, and attack anyone who called them out on it.... You old guys are trying to relive a past process.... and its making you demonstrate how unaware and uninformed your are.

ModernDiogenes said:

Your mistake is the presumption that Republicans alone are the great threat to out democracy.

The great threat to our democrat republic is a disenfranchised, angry to the point of detachment, unconscious, electorate that refuses to educate itself (a good part of it has no idea how their government even works.... I mean they can’t even tell you the names of the three segments of government, how many Justices on the Supreme Court, things of that nature) and even if they have the basics aren’t actually informed on current events. Oh, they can regurgitate headline talking points of their tribe, but not speak in-depth in a balanced, well rounded, way on the topics of the day that suggests cohesive, critical, thinking was involved.

What’s more, since our schools no longer teach civics or critical thinking I’m not sure that isn’t on purpose. I mean if you want to have an oligarchy parading around pretending to be a Constitutional republic with democratically elected representatives the first thing you’d have to do is dumb down the electorate to the point that they’d be so busy fighting amongst themselves they wouldn’t notice what the oligarchs were up to.

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I've written many post on the DESPERATE NEED FOR CIVICS EDUCATION.... Civic's educated was damaged severely after the 1964 Civil Rights Act, and it took a tremendous blow, during and after President Nixon's Ouster.
People vote based on "TV Advertisements" and "Punditry" most have no idea what the issues are until they are buried behind the results of bills and measures that devastate them.
Then they get hung up in "bluster and blame", belligerence and attacks... and never stop to "self review" and acknowledge they are themselves the make up of the blame for the conditions, and deterioration of our systems.

Most of these Republican who go by Conservative, as well as some of these Democrats who claim to be Liberals, don't know what the post are speaking about... if they did, they'd have background info to contribute.
Many come to this site to play... "One Up's on each other" with slap stick for the vanity of ego elation... I've seen over and over the string of "one liner's" and some can't even make a 50 alphabet one liner... they just utter anything of 'slap stick' that use to get them by in life... and it no longer works, so they get deeply anguished when they utter it, and their first thought is "grab a gun" scream about the Second Amendment.... and a litany of 'idiotic babbles" that make absolutely no relevant sense to anything, other than to identify their insidiousness... of which... they are unaware even it making such a declaration about them by their own utterances.

That's why I ask ... why would such types run to a site that has the word "Debate" in is... but the interesting thing is how a mass number of people stay away from the site for the very fact it has the word "Debate"... and seek out site known for more memberships, spinning drama and one liner slap stick...

America has to change or it will falter further... because the overt levels of generalized ignorance has insulted and embarrassed this nation on a Grand Scale..... Globally!!!

Grand Mal said:

Gawd. Know what I picture when I read your posts? Every intelligent conservative on this board looking at what you've written and saying to their screen, "Just shut the **** up!"

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Haha. Well, I have a few likes.

So your still voting for the globalists, huh? Very disappointing. But it's to be expected, I guess. Would you follow the DNC off a cliff?

Grand Mal said:

Gawd. Know what I picture when I read your posts? Every intelligent conservative on this board looking at what you've written and saying to their screen, "Just shut the **** up!"

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The intelligent Conservatives may serve themselves better to read, and focus their effort to wake up the Un-intelligent Conservatives... The thing about intelligence, it does not duck and seek cover when points and factors are presented.... So... it might become an inquiry as to what is the level of "intelligence that your are referencing"...

I'm not here to give anyone some " rubber ducky" to appease them, because they can't digest indulging to investigate and think and learn.... that's not a problem that I would care claim.. In America, ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE..

All should WANT to be Self Responsible and Self Informed and Understand the Policies of the Era and those that will shape the future.. in how they utilize it.

RealityNow said:

I've written many post on the DESPERATE NEED FOR CIVICS EDUCATION.... Civic's educated was damaged severely after the 1964 Civil Rights Act, and it took a tremendous blow, during and after President Nixon's Ouster.
People vote based on "TV Advertisements" and "Punditry" most have no idea what the issues are until they are buried behind the results of bills and measures that devastate them.
Then they get hung up in "bluster and blame", belligerence and attacks... and never stop to "self review" and acknowledge they are themselves the make up of the blame for the conditions, and deterioration of our systems.

Most of these Republican who go by Conservative, as well as some of these Democrats who claim to be Liberals, don't know what the post are speaking about... if they did, they'd have background info to contribute.
Many come to this site to play... "One Up's on each other" with slap stick for the vanity of ego elation... I've seen over and over the string of "one liner's" and some can't even make a 50 alphabet one liner... they just utter anything of 'slap stick' that use to get them by in life... and it no longer works, so they get deeply anguished when they utter it, and their first thought is "grab a gun" scream about the Second Amendment.... and a litany of 'idiotic babbles" that make absolutely no relevant sense to anything, other than to identify their insidiousness... of which... they are unaware even it making such a declaration about them by their own utterances.

That's why I ask ... why would such types run to a site that has the word "Debate" in is... but the interesting thing is how a mass number of people stay away from the site for the very fact it has the word "Debate"... and seek out site known for more memberships, spinning drama and one liner slap stick...

America has to change or it will falter further... because the overt levels of generalized ignorance has insulted and embarrassed this nation on a Grand Scale..... Globally!!!

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Oh, I could post quotes from both Biden and Obama that prove my point. Nobody reads it, or if they do, they just can't believe it. The truth is out there, you just have to be able to see it.

RealityNow said:

It's Time For American Democracy Loving Citizens, to AWAKEN, and see the "Undermining of America Democracy" by Republican Conservative Right Wing Confederacy Agenda.

2020 - Vote - Democrat - and let's Restore The Integrity Unto and Into American Democracy, and get back to Respecting the Principles of the Declaration of Independence and the great nations it outlined in and of its design for America. "Equality of Person as Individual"....



We've seen incessant attacks on the Media, as if it was a remake of "Hitler's Program" of discredit the Media and try and confound and confuse the people... while Trump feeds them spin and deflections....

Look at acts by the forces of malice, of any sort and disregard for policy and with no regard for procedures.... People seem to have forgotten the firing of missiles in the sand, as a grand distraction, which saw a desecration of process in how Gorsuch was placed on the Supreme Court.

Some have outlined long list of the Republican and Trump Abuses... and we can go all the way back to McConnell and the Republican Pledge to Oppose Anything and Everything Obama did... to the Tea Part Shutting down the Government, and Trump again Shutting down the Government. "The Authoritarian Agenda fully at work' each time. Then we see the massive Tax Give Away to the Wealthy, while Infrastructure Crumbles and Nations Debt is blow up astronomically, and no infrastructure, and no health care. People seem to forget the " Killer Program" Republican promoted which would have decimated the senior citizen population, and damaged the working poor, and then on to the disregard for the Environment, and the bills set to law to rape the lands resources and risk environmental damages simply to promote access for the greed of a few.

Now, Trump wants to rush America's kids into mass public schools and decimate the future population... because the wealthy will go to private schools that have every protective measure that can be put in place. They see, as Betsy DeVos has show, they consider public schools a drain away of money from the wealthy, and they'd like nothing more than to destroy anything that provides government supported public services and assistance to the general public.

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Good Lord....brainwashed to the hilt and you talk about comparing Republicans with Hitler, lol. I don't even know why I posted in this thread, except we can clearly see what propaganda and manipulation can do to people...wow.

Grandpappy said:

Haha. Well, I have a few likes.

So your still voting for the globalists, huh? Very disappointing. But it's to be expected, I guess. Would you follow the DNC off a cliff?

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America has been a Globalist since the days of its Independence, and it was a Globalist Nation before the days it fought for its Independence. You are from a time past and you allow FOX Right Wing Media as your classroom.... Therefore, keep uttering the "Trigger Words" they train you to utter.... because you have absolutely no idea what or how to understand the terms or the elements of their relation to systems and societies.

Go to your vehicle... and take off every part that WAS NOT MADE IN AMERICA... and see if you have anything to drive left, if you can get in the pile of parts that remain... Then come back and speak about how society is not part of a Globalist System.

Good Lord....brainwashed to the hilt and you talk about comparing Republicans with Hitler, lol. I don't even know why I posted in this thread, except we can clearly see what propaganda and manipulation can do to people...wow.

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Nobody made you post anything, if you think that your statement elevates you in some way, enjoy your illusion.

https://youtu.be/AqzoO-Hu1mk?t=10


Proof that Obama is incompetent and just didn't understand the American economy. Sorry guys. IT'S RIGHT THERE UNDER YOUR NOSE.

ModernDiogenes said:

Your mistake is the presumption that Republicans alone are the great threat to out democracy.

The great threat to our democrat republic is a disenfranchised, angry to the point of detachment, unconscious, electorate that refuses to educate itself (a good part of it has no idea how their government even works.... I mean they can’t even tell you the names of the three segments of government, how many Justices on the Supreme Court, things of that nature) and even if they have the basics aren’t actually informed on current events. Oh, they can regurgitate headline talking points of their tribe, but not speak in-depth in a balanced, well rounded, way on the topics of the day that suggests cohesive, critical, thinking was involved.

What’s more, since our schools no longer teach civics or critical thinking I’m not sure that isn’t on purpose. I mean if you want to have an oligarchy parading around pretending to be a Constitutional republic with democratically elected representatives the first thing you’d have to do is dumb down the electorate to the point that they’d be so busy fighting amongst themselves they wouldn’t notice what the oligarchs were up to.

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THink we can get everyone to read this?