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Chief toady expects Obama, Biden, not to be investigated

Jetboogieman said:
My dear ludin.

You wouldn’t know justice or truth if it came up and bit you in the ass.

For you, it’s about who, not about what.
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facts state otherwise.

your projection argument is a failure.
That is how you operate it is about who not what.
 
lwf said:
But Barr has now admitted that they didn't break the law.
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you didn't read what was said. He said that he wasn't going to go after obama and biden.
that is 2 people. They are very much investigating a whole ton of other people.

I say that is bull**** because we know for a fact that obama and biden were involved with the flynn case.
 
What if...? said:
Oh, I thought you were talking about criminal republicans too, above.

My bad.

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Cool show me a criminal republican.

The FBI has already opened an investigation into the congressman that dumped all their stock
before the crash as they should.

So not sure what you are talking about. I support looking into criminal behavior of our government?
why don't you?

The difference between me and you is i require probable cause and you just want a witch hunt.
 
Stealers Wheel said:
"We know for a fact ...."

You don't "know" ****.

What we do know is "Obamagate" is a made-up undefined word designed to distract us from Trump's utter failure in a crisis. Mission accomplished.
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We actually do know for a fact that the Obama DOJ and DNI leadership saw no evidence to support a claim that Trump had conspired with Russia to fix the 2016 election.
They have testified before Congress to this.
Its no longer a question of reasonable debate-- the conspiracy never happened. Period. End of story.
Yet we have had an investigation into this.
Thats the problem.
 
Sandy Shanks said:
Barr is sacrificing his career, his reputation, and his legacy.

I don't see him as being stupid. I wonder why? Just as we think Putin has something on Trump, does Trump have something on Barr?

That would explain a lot.
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You are still reaching for nonsense.
Barr is correct in what he said. No politics in the DOJ.
 
Mycroft said:
You should probably watch the interview instead of reading the snippets and hyperbole from the media. He didn't state that.
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lwf said:
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Cool. I've watched the entire interview...not just this snippet.

The important, relevant part of this video, that relates to your statement that "he doesn't expect there to be any criminal probes", is at 3:05.

Watch it and listen carefully to what he says.
 
Cardinal said:
And what were his exact words that gave you that idea?
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"over the past few decades, there have been increasing attempts to use the criminal justice system as a political weapon. The legal tactic has been to gin up allegations of criminality by one's political opponents based upon the flimsiest of legal developments...We saw two different standards of justice emerge, one that applied to President Trump and his associates and the other that applied to everyone else... but this (the Durham investigation) will not be a tit for tat exercise. We are not going to lower the standard of justice just to achieve a result... now under the longstanding standards of the department, criminal charges are appropriate only when we have enough evidence to prove each element of the crime beyond a reasonable doubt. That is the standard we are applying. ... not every abuse of power, no matter how outrageous, is necessarilly a federal crime. Now as to President Obama and vice president Biden, whatever their level of involvement, based upon the information I have today I don't expect Mr. Durhams work will lead to a criminal investigation of either man"
 
Athanasius68 said:
"over the past few decades, there have been increasing attempts to use the criminal justice system as a political weapon. The legal tactic has been to gin up allegations of criminality by one's political opponents based upon the flimsiest of legal developments...We saw two different standards of justice emerge, one that applied to President Trump and his associates and the other that applied to everyone else... but this (the Durham investigation) will not be a tit for tat exercise. We are not going to lower the standard of justice just to achieve a result... now under the longstanding standards of the department, criminal charges are appropriate only when we have enough evidence to prove each element of the crime beyond a reasonable doubt. That is the standard we are applying. ... not every abuse of power, no matter how outrageous, is necessarilly a federal crime. Now as to President Obama and vice president Biden, whatever their level of involvement, based upon the information I have today I don't expect Mr. Durhams work will lead to a criminal investigation of either man"
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Jesus. What it means to be a conservative is to believe that republicans are victims, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

Clinton was investigated publicly throughout all of 2016 which ultimately cost her the election, while the FBI was investigating Trump in secret so he didn’t have an investigation hanging over him like a dark cloud.

But Trump is the victim. Of course.
 
poweRob said:
What truth? All you did was blame some anonymous derp DDDEEEEEEEEEP STTTTAAAAAaaaaaate! folks you couldn't even name. :lol:

I know... Maybe they should ask Durham to look into it?
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Durham now is going to have to hunt down Democrats with parking tickets.

Give a few of 'em immunity.

Then body slam the Deep State. :lamo
 
tres borrachos said:
Hey! Speaking of Durham, where is that report the Trump fans have been telling us is coming out any day now? It's been a year.
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The Rowers have been reporting to us the Right Wing Mass of Highly Financed Media reports Durham has reportedly doubled his staff to handle the reported huge and unexpected mass of criminal guilt Durham has found and is reportedly uncovering and that will reportedly indict Obama, Biden, Bill & Hillary, Eric Holder et al and reportedly lock up every one of 'em among many others not yet reported on.

Durham had to double his staff by God!

Reportedly.


I also remember when the RW Mass of Highly Financed Media were reporting FBI had 141 agents on Hillary's emails. :lamo
 
ludin said:
not sure what conspiracy theory you are talking about sorry i don't deal in conspiracy theories but you do.
sorry russia was a bust,
ukraine was a bust
for someone that hates lies so much you should be super pissed at pelosi and schiff right now.

they have been lying to you for 4 years.
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Au contraire.

They've been speaking the truth to you for 4 years.

Trouble is you don't know the difference. You and Rudy Giuliani in particular.
 
americanwoman said:
The point is you think there is a deep state that is powerful enough to not charge Obama while Trump is President, thus meaning they are on Obama's side, while not being able to charge Trump.
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Still can't lock up Flynn either.

While Bison Barr gives Flynn a Get Out of Jail Free card.

As Trump quivers at the thought of a pardon.
 
Cardinal said:
Jesus. What it means to be a conservative is to believe that republicans are victims, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

Clinton was investigated publicly throughout all of 2016 which ultimately cost her the election, while the FBI was investigating Trump in secret so he didn’t have an investigation hanging over him like a dark cloud.

But Trump is the victim. Of course.
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The investigation into Mrs. Clinton ended before the Democratic convention. We already know the FBI declined to recommend that she be prosecuted because the alleged crime is very rarely prosecuted.

Meanwhile we now know there was no basis to investigate Mr. Trump.
 
Athanasius68 said:
The investigation into Mrs. Clinton ended before the Democratic convention. We already know the FBI declined to recommend that she be prosecuted because the alleged crime is very rarely prosecuted.

Meanwhile we now know there was no basis to investigate Mr. Trump.
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That's a really weird rewriting of history. The investigation into Clinton was publicly and loudly reopened ten days before the election, and multiple other investigations into her continued well into November of 2019. The investigation into Trump during 2016? Not a peep. That's why he won.

But Trump is the victim. Sure.
 
Mycroft said:
Cool. I've watched the entire interview...not just this snippet.

The important, relevant part of this video, that relates to your statement that "he doesn't expect there to be any criminal probes", is at 3:05.

Watch it and listen carefully to what he says.
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"As to president Obama and Vice President Biden, whatever their level of involvement, based on the information I have today, I don't expect Mr. Durham's work will lead to a criminal investigation of either man."
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I don't know how that can be more clear.
 
Athanasius68 said:
The investigation into Mrs. Clinton ended before the Democratic convention. We already know the FBI declined to recommend that she be prosecuted because the alleged crime is very rarely prosecuted.

Meanwhile we now know there was no basis to investigate Mr. Trump.
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Did you type that with a straight face, or do you just lie for the sake of lying? Or did you sleep the entire month of October 2016?

James Comey Under Fire After Hillary Clinton Email News | Time
 
Cardinal said:
That's a really weird rewriting of history. The investigation into Clinton was publicly and loudly reopened ten days before the election, and multiple other investigations into her continued well into November of 2019. The investigation into Trump during 2016? Not a peep. That's why he won.

But Trump is the victim. Sure.
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Oh ****, sorry. Didn't see your post before I just posted mine.

Someone seems to have missed Comey's announcement in October of 2016.

No wonder Trump loves the uneducated.
 
tres borrachos said:
Oh ****, sorry. Didn't see your post before I just posted mine.

Someone seems to have missed Comey's announcement in October of 2016.

No wonder Trump loves the uneducated.
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Worst gaslighter on the forum, no contest.
 
lwf said:
I don't know how that can be more clear.
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The problem is this:

lwf said:
Then why is Barr already stating that he doesn't expect there to be any criminal probes?
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Barr doesn't state he doesn't expect "there will be any criminal probes". He only said "As to president Obama and Vice President Biden, whatever their level of involvement, based on the information I have today, I don't expect Mr. Durham's work will lead to a criminal investigation of either man."

1. You can be certain there WILL be criminal probes...just not involving Obama or Biden.

2. His reference to Obama and Biden is based on the information he has today. That can change in a heartbeat.
 
Mycroft said:
The problem is this:



Barr doesn't state he doesn't expect "there will be any criminal probes". He only said "As to president Obama and Vice President Biden, whatever their level of involvement, based on the information I have today, I don't expect Mr. Durham's work will lead to a criminal investigation of either man."

1. You can be certain there WILL be criminal probes...just not involving Obama or Biden.

2. His reference to Obama and Biden is based on the information he has today. That can change in a heartbeat.
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Indictments any day now, right?

How come you still haven't provided the link to prove that Obama knowingly gave guns to ISIS, by the way?
 
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