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Trump aide denied campaign rigging in pre-election conversation with FBI secret source: transcript

Lutherf said:
Papodopolous stated that nobody in the campaign was working with Russia. Unless the FBI had other information that implied, REASONABLY, that someone in the campaign WAS working with Russia then this denial is absolutely something that should have been disclosed to the court. It's all part of the same investigation.
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https://www.justice.gov/file/1007346/download
 
veritas1 said:
Firing the guy who got caught evidence tampering doesn't change anything. The FBI was dishonest just like they were calling the dossier verified when it was a fairy tale.
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The idiot erased a sentence in an email. He was caught and will be prosecuted.
 
Mr Person said:
Everyone knows that when the suspect denies doing anything wrong, the police have to stop investigating.



In other words: just another slavish and moronic Trump-slurping thread from Lutherf.
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Proves what we already knew. Lt's hope Barr indicts the whole lot of 'em, starting with Comey. The set up is being proven by Barr, piece by piece. Treason is punishable by hanging. I'll be there.
 
veritas1 said:
Firing the guy who got caught evidence tampering doesn't change anything. The FBI was dishonest just like they were calling the dossier verified when it was a fairy tale.
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You realize that just because you say something it doesn't make it true, right?
 
Mr Person said:
Everyone knows that when the suspect denies doing anything wrong, the police have to stop investigating.



In other words: just another slavish and moronic Trump-slurping thread from Lutherf.
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like clockwork.
 
JustHanging said:
Ah, you're having yet more problems with English comprehension eh? From the OP, discussing Russian interference in the election:

2. The FBI had a direct denial by an object of their investigation that the Trump campaign was working with Russia yet failed to include that information in the FISA warrant application as well as any subsequent renewals.

When clearly there was other evidence that there could be a connection.



Thank you for proving me 100% correct. I said true Trump supporters never trust their own eyes and ears, they only believe what dear leader tells them to believe. And here you are, literally parroting what dear leader has told you to believe rather than trusting your own eyes and ears. :lamo

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Another ad that wrote itself. President Putin was ‘very strong’ in his denial. IOW, Vlad the Impaler has me right by the testicles.
 
Lutherf said:
Trump aide denied campaign rigging in pre-election conversation with FBI secret source: transcript | Fox News



So there are a couple of things here:

1. The FBI WAS using confidential human sources to investigate the Trump campaign and the use of the "Crossfire Typhoon" designation ties this source directly tot he Crossfire Hurricane investigation.

2. The FBI had a direct denial by an object of their investigation that the Trump campaign was working with Russia yet failed to include that information in the FISA warrant application as well as any subsequent renewals.

That's beyond shady. It is also an indication that they had no evidence to DISPROVE the Papadopolous denial because if they had such information that would have ABSOLUTELY been included in the evidence given to the FISC.
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These people, Hillary, and the DNC had big plans after the election, but Trump and the people spoke.....thus they are so po'ed off it's not even funny and the loony bin who follows speak like the lemmings they are.
 
Lutherf said:
Would you care to explain how the information in your link disproves anything I said?
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Because he plead guilty and was represented by attorneys, therefore you have no idea what was presented to him.
 
CaughtInThe said:
like clockwork.
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It's so moronic how they just keep going over the same old ****.

Strozk! Strozk! Strozk! Well, yeah, but he was removed right away and any bias he harbored had no effect on how they proceeded with the investigation. It's all idiotic distractions and lies with these people.

I'm still shaking my head over the idiocy of Lutherf's OP. Yeah of course the FBI was using "confidential human sources" because of course they were. You don't investigate something with potential criminal investigations about this sort of thing by sending out agents wearing jackets with "FBI" written on them.

And my God, he is actually trying to suggest that the FBI had a duty to tell the FISA court that the suspect denied doing anything wrong. I mean..just what? The only time a suspect admits doing something wrong is if the police interrogation fools him into thinking the police will actually try to help him out with the situation, or if their methods of extracting false confessions payed off.

Lutherf said:
Trump aide denied campaign rigging in pre-election conversation with FBI secret source: transcript | Fox News



So there are a couple of things here:

1. The FBI WAS using confidential human sources to investigate the Trump campaign and the use of the "Crossfire Typhoon" designation ties this source directly tot he Crossfire Hurricane investigation.

2. The FBI had a direct denial by an object of their investigation that the Trump campaign was working with Russia yet failed to include that information in the FISA warrant application as well as any subsequent renewals.

That's beyond shady. It is also an indication that they had no evidence to DISPROVE the Papadopolous denial because if they had such information that would have ABSOLUTELY been included in the evidence given to the FISC.
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No, it's not even slightly shady. Your predictable lies are as idiotic as they are predictable.

The FBI has absolutely no duty to tell a court that someone working with their investigation's target denied wrongdoing. I've never seen a warrant application containing something like that. Beyond moronic.

And to suggest they have to disprove a target's denial before getting a warrant? Just LOL. That's :lol:

How do you even think to say something that stupid? They don't have to disprove anything part of the investigation's target . What they have to do is provide enough inculpatory information to establish probable cause. In fact, they don't have to prove or disprove anything, since their role in law enforcement is gathering information. It is a prosecutor's duty to prove the case to a jury, or to a judge if bench trial is requested, and it is the defense's job to cast doubt on the government's case.

You don't have a damn clue. Just talking out your rear in order to defend your Lord God.
 
US&THEM said:
https://www.justice.gov/file/1007346/download
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Lutherf said:
Would you care to explain how the information in your link disproves anything I said?
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:lamo

How does a joint stipulation by the defendant and US government, in which the defendant admits to telling a pile of damning lies showing that the investigation was not only valid but fruitful, disprove your stupid and slavish Trump-slurping OP?

I mean...you seriously typed that? You thought you were *getting* him. Lord help me...




(And, PS: your dishonest tactic of trying to invent non-existent standards for things you don't have any knowledge, training, or experience in is also magnificently stupid)
 
US&THEM said:
Because he plead guilty and was represented by attorneys, therefore you have no idea what was presented to him.
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Papadopolous DID NOT plead guilty to conspiring with Russia in relation to the Trump campaign or to attempting to gather information for use against the Clinton campaign. He plead guilty to providing misleading or incomplete information to the FBI in relation to an investigation involving the aforementioned accusation. It is also completely likely that the whole reason he plead guilty to even those charges was to mitigate any additional expense related to his defense.
 
US&THEM said:
Yea, Hannity profits off the old white guys who want to believe his bs.

Sean Hannity says John Durham review 'about to blow wide open' ahead of Barr interview premiere
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Who know what will happen with the 'Durham investigation', but hopefully some justice will be dolled out upon those who attempted to overthrow a US election, as it should. The powers that be, used a powerful dept in the federal gov for purposes to unseat a duly elected President and those directing it and those following through with it should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
 
Linc said:
Another ad that wrote itself. President Putin was ‘very strong’ in his denial. IOW, Vlad the Impaler has me right by the testicles.
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President Putin apparently lives rent free in your head?
 
Lutherf said:
Papadopolous DID NOT plead guilty to conspiring with Russia in relation to the Trump campaign or to attempting to gather information for use against the Clinton campaign. He plead guilty to providing misleading or incomplete information to the FBI in relation to an investigation involving the aforementioned accusation. It is also completely likely that the whole reason he plead guilty to even those charges was to mitigate any additional expense related to his defense.
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He is a convicted felon. Your word salad doesn’t mean anything.
 
I know how we can fix our massive over-incarceration problem: just force law enforcement to follow Lutherf's Bigly Brained Guide to Catching Criminals (50% off if you buy a copy of "Triggered").




US&THEM said:
Because he plead guilty and was represented by attorneys, therefore you have no idea what was presented to him.
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Lutherf said:
Papadopolous DID NOT plead guilty to conspiring with Russia in relation to the Trump campaign or to attempting to gather information for use against the Clinton campaign. He plead guilty to providing misleading or incomplete information to the FBI in relation to an investigation involving the aforementioned accusation. It is also completely likely that the whole reason he plead guilty to even those charges was to mitigate any additional expense related to his defense.
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The idiocy of your posts is downright painful.

The entire point of an investigation is to find out what happened (or is still happening). The Trumpist strategy of acting like the authorities need to be able to prove everything that happened before investigating it or else the investigation is bunk is the dumbest ****ing thing I've ever heard. The fact that an investigation doesn't find exactly what the investigators suspect they are most likely to find at the outset does not mean its invalid.

You legitimately should feel ashamed for trying to push that America-hating partisan swill. They felt they had a reason to go in, the FISA court was convinced, and a whole lot of people ended up in jail. Most plead guilty. And we learned that the President of the U.S. knowingly accepted foreign interference in our election for his personal benefit and didn't tell the authorities.

And you want to say the investigation was invalid? That's all the way through stupidly dishonest and out the other side.





Rethink your hatred of America, your love of corruption, and your love of convicted criminals.
 
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Lutherf said:
Papadopolous DID NOT plead guilty to conspiring with Russia in relation to the Trump campaign or to attempting to gather information for use against the Clinton campaign. He plead guilty to providing misleading or incomplete information to the FBI in relation to an investigation involving the aforementioned accusation. It is also completely likely that the whole reason he plead guilty to even those charges was to mitigate any additional expense related to his defense.
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The anti-Trumps make up their own facts even when the truth is staring them in the face.
 
Lutherf said:
Trump aide denied campaign rigging in pre-election conversation with FBI secret source: transcript | Fox News



So there are a couple of things here:

1. The FBI WAS using confidential human sources to investigate the Trump campaign and the use of the "Crossfire Typhoon" designation ties this source directly tot he Crossfire Hurricane investigation.

2. The FBI had a direct denial by an object of their investigation that the Trump campaign was working with Russia yet failed to include that information in the FISA warrant application as well as any subsequent renewals.

That's beyond shady. It is also an indication that they had no evidence to DISPROVE the Papadopolous denial because if they had such information that would have ABSOLUTELY been included in the evidence given to the FISC.
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In related news...

Preview of pt 2 Barr interview with Ingraham: “What happened to POTUS was one of the greatest travesties in American history, no basis for this investigation, what’s even more concerning is what happened after the campaign, a whole pattern of events… to sabotage the presidency” pic.twitter.com/85YLJU6IIZ

— Luke Goldberg (@LukeGoldberg4) April 9, 2020

https://twitter.com/LukeGoldberg4/status/1248091038310432768/video/1
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roughdraft274 said:
1. Typical FBI tactic. This isn't amazing or newsworthy.

2. Horowitz investigated crossfire hurricane. The FBI was investigating serious and valid concerns. There was no ill intent or bias. Your attempt at ignoring everything and still trying to pretend that this was some deep state conspiracy is sad and pathetic.
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Any investigation by Horowitz is pretty much useless, except for evidence it generates. Horowitz cannot compel anyone to answer his questions, he has no grand jury power, cannot put anyone under oath and cannot bring charges against anyone.

But don't worry, Durham has ALL of those abilities.
 
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Mycroft said:
Any investigation by Horowitz is pretty much useless, except for evidence it generates. Horowitz has cannot compel anyone to answer his questions, he has no grand jury power, cannot put anyone under oath and cannot bring charges against anyone.

But don't worry, Durham has ALL of those abilities.
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Durham has a grand jury investigation? How about the McCabe prosecution? 0+0=0
 
US&THEM said:
Haha “news”. What Prosecutor would ever talk about an on-going investigation? Political hacks
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The fact that Barr HAS said these things in an interview pretty much guarantees that Durham is going to be bringing charges against people.
 
roughdraft274 said:
1. Typical FBI tactic. This isn't amazing or newsworthy.

2. Horowitz investigated crossfire hurricane. The FBI was investigating serious and valid concerns. There was no ill intent or bias. Your attempt at ignoring everything and still trying to pretend that this was some deep state conspiracy is sad and pathetic.
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lying to federal courts is a fbi tactic?
since when had that ever been tolerated?
you realize that is perjury correct?

this proves that there was bias and horowitz trying to protect the fbi has failed.

for all the ranting you people do about lies and corruption you sure defend it when it suits your purpose.
 
US&THEM said:
Durham has a grand jury investigation? How about the McCabe prosecution? 0+0=0
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Yes, Durham has a grand jury behind him.

The fact that the DOJ declined to prosecute McCabe for his lying and leaking doesn't mean he won't be charged with more serious crimes. Don't forget...McCabe signed off on one of those fraudulent FISA warrant applications.
 
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