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How Trump might try and become permanent dictator of the United States

OscarLevant

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If the pandemic gets so bad martial law is declared, then, in my view, given what I know about Trump, that he has a secret desire to be dictator, given that he's envious of people like KJU and Putin, the temptation to exert powers that would become available to him in such a declaration would too great for him to resist.

I predict things will get extremely bad in the coming months. I predicted in an earlier post "all hell is going to break loose" and, though it really hasn't yet, it will eventually.

But, could he actually do it? The following article seems to think so.

What say you?


What Can a President Do During a State of Emergency? - The Atlantic

The Alarming Scope of the President’s Emergency Powers

From seizing control of the internet to declaring martial law, President Trump may legally do all kinds of extraordinary things

This edifice of extraordinary powers has historically rested on the assumption that the president will act in the country’s best interest when using them. With a handful of noteworthy exceptions, this assumption has held up. But what if a president, backed into a corner and facing electoral defeat or impeachment, were to declare an emergency for the sake of holding on to power? In that scenario, our laws and institutions might not save us from a presidential power grab. They might be what takes us down.
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OscarLevant said:
If the pandemic gets so bad martial law is declared, then, in my view, given what I know about Trump, that he has a secret desire to be dictator, given that he's envious of people like KJU and Putin, the temptation to exert powers that would become available to him in such a declaration would too great for him to resist.

I predict things will get extremely bad in the coming months. I predicted in an earlier post "all hell is going to break loose" and, though it really hasn't yet, it will eventually.

But, could he actually do it? The following article seems to think so.

What say you?
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Don't worry...us second amendment types will protect you from that ever happening.
 
AlphaOmega said:
Don't worry...us second amendment types will protect you from that ever happening.
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Right! You are going to mow down the 40-some-odd percent of the people of the United States of America who give President of the United States of America Donald Trump their unswerving allegiance!

Right!

Thanks for a chuckle this morning.

Regards, stay well, and be thankful you're not one of the '15'.
 
Torus34 said:
Right! You are going to mow down the 40-some-odd percent of the people of the United States of America who give President of the United States of America Donald Trump their unswerving allegiance!

Right!

Thanks for a chuckle this morning.

Regards, stay well, and be thankful you're not one of the '15'.
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Trump supporters would never support a dictator. That's the part you are confused about.
 
Torus34 said:
Two chuckles in one morning! My cup runneth over!

Thank you, regards, and stay well.
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If you believe that then that explains the difference between a lefty and conservatives.
 
OscarLevant said:
If the pandemic gets so bad martial law is declared, then, in my view, given what I know about Trump, that he has a secret desire to be dictator, given that he's envious of people like KJU and Putin, the temptation to exert powers that would become available to him in such a declaration would too great for him to resist.

I predict things will get extremely bad in the coming months. I predicted in an earlier post "all hell is going to break loose" and, though it really hasn't yet, it will eventually.

But, could he actually do it? The following article seems to think so.

What say you?
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:lamo
 
OscarLevant said:
If the pandemic gets so bad martial law is declared, then, in my view, given what I know about Trump, that he has a secret desire to be dictator, given that he's envious of people like KJU and Putin, the temptation to exert powers that would become available to him in such a declaration would too great for him to resist.

I predict things will get extremely bad in the coming months. I predicted in an earlier post "all hell is going to break loose" and, though it really hasn't yet, it will eventually.

But, could he actually do it? The following article seems to think so.

What say you?
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We have to be over this sort of nonsense from apparent morons...we dont have the luxury of being self indulgent like that anymore....like we have long been....

BIG PAIN IS HERE!

We sure have earned it.

Time 2 Pay!
 
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OscarLevant said:
If the pandemic gets so bad martial law is declared, then, in my view, given what I know about Trump, that he has a secret desire to be dictator, given that he's envious of people like KJU and Putin, the temptation to exert powers that would become available to him in such a declaration would too great for him to resist.

I predict things will get extremely bad in the coming months. I predicted in an earlier post "all hell is going to break loose" and, though it really hasn't yet, it will eventually.

But, could he actually do it? The following article seems to think so.

What say you?
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Exactly how could the President "declare an emergency for the sake of holding on to power"? What law on our books...what law, written, passed by Congress and signed by a President...could give him the ability to hold onto power? While you are trying to answer that question, keep in mind that Trump has complied with the letter of the law in EVERY situation in which he has declared an emergency and take some kind of action. And the courts have backed him up in everything he's done.
 
He hasn’t got the attention span.
 
Torus34 said:
Right! You are going to mow down the 40-some-odd percent of the people of the United States of America who give President of the United States of America Donald Trump their unswerving allegiance!
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that's the easy part. they'd have to defeat the US Military if it actually was a dictatorship.
 
CaughtInThe said:
that's the easy part. they'd have to defeat the US Military if it actually was a dictatorship.
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Hi! I find something refreshingly child-like in the 2nd Amendment folk's image of themselves.

In the real world, we should study carefully just how some democracies*, past and present, have been and are being overthrown. In many instances, a charismatic figure and a loyal following permit the takeover to occur without significant bloodshed and minimal set-asides of the law.

Regards, and stay well.

* Yes, yes, Gotcha Gang. I know we are a republic. I knew that before you were in diapers.
 
AlphaOmega said:
Trump supporters would never support a dictator. That's the part you are confused about.
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Famous last words of every country before becoming a dictatorship

* In fairness to Trump, he’s not nearly smart enough to orchestrate a takeover of the entire government.
 
OscarLevant said:
If the pandemic gets so bad martial law is declared, then, in my view, given what I know about Trump, that he has a secret desire to be dictator, given that he's envious of people like KJU and Putin, the temptation to exert powers that would become available to him in such a declaration would too great for him to resist.

I predict things will get extremely bad in the coming months. I predicted in an earlier post "all hell is going to break loose" and, though it really hasn't yet, it will eventually.

But, could he actually do it? The following article seems to think so.

What say you?
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I think the Military Leaders would 'take over from him" before they allow him to destroy what millions of other military people have fought and died for, to preserve this Democracy. They will only go along with so much of the madness of Trump. The Military Can seize power from him and demand a New Election within 6 months.

The Right-Wing Cult Constituency, who always want to claim the words "My Freedoms", would be rudely awakened to what they have supported, when he shows them that gerrymandering was only a mild form of containment when he would try his extreme version of containment.

The Right Winger's would quickly find out their lust for Racist Segregationist Idiocy, entraps them more than it will entrap anyone else. They would either rise up or accept being peon subjects of a dictator. Now, we do know that some are already with that devotional consumption, and they will go full-on rabid when he tries to come for their guns.

Their lust for "Money" would be another point that would make them lose every pretentious bit of being respecters of American Democracy.
They would go straight out savage upon and against Trump and his regime when he's trying to "ration them money" and put them under full "plutocratic control and treat them like "sharecroppers', who remain indebted no matter what they do.

Between their "lust for money" and "their love of racist bias and bigotry"... have to face the fact, they are thought of no more than anyone else through the eyes and mind of Trump.... some attack each other as they scramble trying to pretend to be more important than the other, and trying to get another's money.

They'd quickly find out that delusion of "skin color madness" will expose just how much they can't and don't care much for each other, and that there is no "one way of living, just because they have white skin.

Some might even awaken to how stupid racism is.... and it will be likely his own cult followers who will take down the Cult Dictator themselves when they realize how much of a fool they've been made of, and how ignorant they have been to have accepted being led by racist ignorance and the greed lust for money.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
We have to be over this sort of nonsense from apparent morons...we dont have the luxury of being self indulgent like that anymore....like we have long been....

BIG PAIN IS HERE!

We sure have earned it.

Time 2 Pay!
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^^ Speaking of moronic assertions, how exactly do you figure we “earned it”?
 
OscarLevant said:
If the pandemic gets so bad martial law is declared, then, in my view, given what I know about Trump, that he has a secret desire to be dictator, given that he's envious of people like KJU and Putin, the temptation to exert powers that would become available to him in such a declaration would too great for him to resist.

I predict things will get extremely bad in the coming months. I predicted in an earlier post "all hell is going to break loose" and, though it really hasn't yet, it will eventually.

But, could he actually do it? The following article seems to think so.

What say you?
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Social isolation has really taken it's toll on you.
 
AlphaOmega said:
Don't worry...us second amendment types will protect you from that ever happening.
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LOL!!!! Yes, it is time Oscar called on all of his lefty friends to rush out to the gun stores.
 
rocket88 said:
You might not. Others would.
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So you believe conservatives would suddenly swap their beliefs on the constitutuon because of Trump? I don't.

Orange man bad mentality does not equate to orange man good enough to be a dictator. Supporting a dictator would go against every belief system conservatives have.
 
Mycroft said:
Exactly how could the President "declare an emergency for the sake of holding on to power"? What law on our books...what law, written, passed by Congress and signed by a President...could give him the ability to hold onto power? While you are trying to answer that question, keep in mind that Trump has complied with the letter of the law in EVERY situation in which he has declared an emergency and take some kind of action. And the courts have backed him up in everything he's done.
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Trying to talk sense into someone who has clearly fallen off the deep end is an exercise in futility.
 
rocket88 said:
You might not. Others would.
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So you believe conservatives would suddenly swap their beliefs on the constitutuon because of Trump? I don't.

Orange man bad mentality does not equate to orange man good enough to be a dictator. Supporting a dictator would go against every belief system conservatives have. But lets pretend it didnt. What would you unarmed lefties be able to do about a dictator?
 
RaleBulgarian said:
Famous last words of every country before becoming a dictatorship

* In fairness to Trump, he’s not nearly smart enough to orchestrate a takeover of the entire government.
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You need to explain that to those who have cut in line to the front of the kool aid jug.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
^^ Speaking of moronic assertions, how exactly do you figure we “earned it”?
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Poor quality work over an extended period of time is the mistake that we made.

We were supposed to know better, our ancestors tried to tell us!

It is a SAD story.
 
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