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    Re: Nate Silver now givers Bernie a round 0% chance; time to drop out

    Quote Originally Posted by lurchadams View Post
    This, coming from the Milo Yiannopoulos of DP!
    Flattery will get you everywhere.

    But in fairness to my awesomeness, I'd say I'm also the Noam Chomsky of DP. (No relation to the oddly named poster.)

    Logical thinking = Despised & attacked by Democrats
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    Re: Nate Silver now givers Bernie a round 0% chance; time to drop out

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Nah... I want to see the full nuclear explosion of a **** up on stage tomorrow.

    Joe has it in him... he needs to let it all hang out.

    The sooner it happens, the better for the Democrat Partei.
    Joe may start talking about the, you know, go to the thing. 666 Go Joe. On the, um, radio. Or record player. At night. 4 million, um, you know - the things with letters in them?
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    Re: Nate Silver now givers Bernie a round 0% chance; time to drop out

    Quote Originally Posted by swing_voter View Post
    Bernie lost to Hillary in 2016.

    Bernie will lost to Biden in 2020.

    Voters have voted on Bernie's [programs and have rejected them.

    You'd think Bernie would take a hint and get out.
    ^ ^Incredibly bad logic.
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    Re: Nate Silver now givers Bernie a round 0% chance; time to drop out

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Biden is going to be the atomic airbag... you know he’s going to crash, the bag will explode with immense force, and the **** is going to fly nationwide.

    It’s why Democrats want an end to the debates.
    Hope you're right.

    But with the right drugs, and Biden sitting down, he might just make it through the night.
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    Re: Nate Silver now givers Bernie a round 0% chance; time to drop out

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    He’s gotten it wrong bigly twice in 2016... this isn’t over until they can hide Biden from the public.

    I expect a tsunami of feces... and the longer Biden has to debate, the more likely we’ll see it.
    Sunday's the last debate.

    Then they pack Quid Pro Joe in mothballs until the conventions.
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    Re: Nate Silver now givers Bernie a round 0% chance; time to drop out

    Quote Originally Posted by Craig234 View Post
    She did seem to indicate a greater willingness to 'work with them', but that also suggests mainly policy.
    It ultimately comes down to policy of course, which is what I said, but that specific combination of policy that the megadonors (and thus the brass) do not want to pursue, and Sanders' refusal to budge on such, is what specifically puts him at odds with them versus someone like Warren who, while not particularly liked for her stances, can be swayed.
    "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." -Alberto Brandolini

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    Re: Nate Silver now givers Bernie a round 0% chance; time to drop out

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    See, the problem I have with this assumption is that I'm not sure anybody really knows what "winning" a debate with Trump actually means.

    Go find a particularly crazy homeless person screaming about fairy aliens devouring his seventh eye. Now get into a political debate with that person. What is "winning" in that scenario?
    Sounds like DP.

    Only a more logical conversation would likely ensue...
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    Re: Nate Silver now givers Bernie a round 0% chance; time to drop out

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I would imagine there are quite a few folks out there who latch on a candidate, but if that candidate doesn't win the nomination, they drop out of the process. They don't vote. My grand daughter was that way in 2016. A huge Sanders supporter, but once Hillary gained the nominate, that was it for her. She never bothered to vote in the general.

    Those who don't show up for what ever reason, exit polls don't cover them. So we can't give a number as to how many support just one candidate, when that candidate lost, they sat on their duff refusing to vote in the general.
    Or voted their values 3rd party.

    A LOT of people are *accidentally* left out of exit polls.
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    Re: Nate Silver now givers Bernie a round 0% chance; time to drop out

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatNews2night View Post
    I don't find this kind of pathetic clueless behavior we see from this DP member, particularly funny. The worst part is that this member actually *thinks* he is funny.
    Zimmer can come on a bit strong, but he makes genuine contributions to logical discourse.

    I have no problem with this, even though I don't always agree with him.
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    Re: Nate Silver now givers Bernie a round 0% chance; time to drop out

    Quote Originally Posted by Surrealistik View Post
    I think it's a personality issue in so far as Sanders is inflexible about his incorruptibility. In general his conflict with the brass stems from his conflict with the donors and monied interests, and his refusal to bend the knee to them.

    Because he has an important message and policy ideas that candidates like Biden won't ever really address or explore beyond paying lip service at best.

    And as to his impression on electability against Trump, the polling among the general population seemed to agree with him, even state by state at the time. As stated previously, and as has been proven repeatedly, primaries are not general elections, or a true test of electoral fitness for the general. A primary, more than anything else, determines who a particularly partisan and politically invested minority of a minority believes is best for the general; sometimes they succumb to their own collective confirmation biases and get it totally wrong.

    Also I feel Bernie would be a far better candidate than an obviously borderline senile Biden, whether or not the Democratic party specifically agrees.

    I was more speaking to the impact of independents and the importance of appeal to them personally, keep in mind that primaries are highly partisan environments with significant confirmation biases and bubble elements, but yes, people who sit out or defect per marriage to a candidate are also a substantial albeit less significant factor.
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